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Post by ericn on Jan 5, 2017 16:25:47 GMT -6
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 5, 2017 17:24:05 GMT -6
Looking' good there sozocaps.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2017 19:29:41 GMT -6
or he suffers from PIS (Pre Indecision Syndrome) ?
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Post by sozocaps on Jan 5, 2017 19:51:08 GMT -6
Yea I just need lots of channels for tracking ... I have 20 channels of good class A preamps 8 GR, 4Heritage, 2 channels Avalon 2022, 4 Capi 28's apogee Track 2etc...that I have collected over the years.
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Post by ericn on Jan 5, 2017 20:31:54 GMT -6
Yea I just need lots of channels for tracking ... I have 20 channels of good class A preamps 8 GR, 4Heritage, 2 channels Avalon 2022, 4 Capi 28's apogee Track 2etc...that I have collected over the years. If you included the consoles and the 24 ch of Panasonic pre's when I had the Panasonic WZ-96's I had at that time 64 ch of preamps!
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Post by dandeurloo on Jan 5, 2017 20:32:32 GMT -6
Great River is really amazing. I also just grabbed a Great River mastering EQ! Bam
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Post by drsax on Jan 5, 2017 21:59:39 GMT -6
Did your Great River have the EQ side? I just used one for a day, and it was obviously really good, but didn't slay me. So I was wondering it you use the Great River EQ with yours. I have two of the 500 Series Mic Pres. no EQ. Although I do like the Great River EQ a lot. Have used them before.
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Post by sozocaps on Jan 6, 2017 10:03:40 GMT -6
Did your Great River have the EQ side? I just used one for a day, and it was obviously really good, but didn't slay me. So I was wondering it you use the Great River EQ with yours. I have two of the 500 Series Mic Pres. no EQ. Although I do like the Great River EQ a lot. Have used them before. The GR EQ is super great.... It is DRY sounding autonomously; Let me explain so people know what to expect. By itself, it has an input transformer but runs Class A Discrete hi headroom outptut. This gives it a super tight low end, a clear musical but dry mid range tonal shaping and a detailed super powerful thick but airy high end timber. It sounds Neve but much tighter in the lows and more discrete Avalon then Neve in the high end specifically. Add a NV-MP Mic preamp and insert it into the patch point for NV Series mic preamp you get the 2 Preamp Transformers added for a total of 3 transformers and all that goes right to Neve territory but much much more flexible and powerful. I have 6 Heritage Neve eq's and they are AMAZING and SUPER COLORED but not even close to as flexible in standalone or in conjunction with the MP nor as good of a Class A EQ to the GR .... Hmmm maybe Ill buy 3 more EQ-2NV's... hmmm
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Post by sll on Jan 7, 2017 10:16:53 GMT -6
I have the Great River 2NV pre and the EQ. They get used all the time. I've never hooked up the patch on the 2NV to insert the EQ. I have them in separate racks that would necessitate a long TRS insert cable (unbalanced). I need to reorganize my racks this year and give that a try. Using them individually has certainly never disappointed me though.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 7, 2017 13:47:36 GMT -6
It strikes me that things will generally never be the way they used to be. I think Neumann is the only company that could properly replicate the original U67, if they wanted to. But with tubes fading away I'm not sure how likely that could be. The U67 apparently seems to be going the way of the U47, just on a little later time scale.
I'm very interested in modern "versions" however, I think there is plenty of room for stuff like that. Even if they are a little different.
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Post by Ward on Jan 7, 2017 15:20:17 GMT -6
It strikes me that things will generally never be the way they used to be. I think Neumann is the only company that could properly replicate the original U67, if they wanted to. But with tubes fading away I'm not sure how likely that could be. The U67 apparently seems to be going the way of the U47, just on a little later time scale. I'm very interested in modern "versions" however, I think there is plenty of room for stuff like that. Even if they are a little different. Good point, Monkey. Personally, I'm hunting for either a great M269, M269c or M367 - the U67 variants; and they seem even pricier
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Post by ericn on Jan 7, 2017 22:27:09 GMT -6
If I were chasing the 67 sound Shannon Rhodes would be my first call. The sound of his take of a modded 67 Capsule in Brad's old Korby is what I want in a 67!
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 10, 2017 19:23:49 GMT -6
If I were chasing the 67 sound Shannon Rhodes would be my first call. The sound of his take of a modded 67 Capsule in Brad's old Korby is what I want in a 67! That's definitely something I'm considering. I think I'm gonna start with the MK U67 kit first. I already have a U87ai.
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Post by ericn on Jan 10, 2017 20:58:09 GMT -6
If I were chasing the 67 sound Shannon Rhodes would be my first call. The sound of his take of a modded 67 Capsule in Brad's old Korby is what I want in a 67! That's definitely something I'm considering. I think I'm gonna start with the MK U67 kit first. I already have a U87ai. Great mic, Shannon can only make it better someday!
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 11, 2017 4:24:13 GMT -6
That's definitely something I'm considering. I think I'm gonna start with the MK U67 kit first. I already have a U87ai. Great mic, Shannon can only make it better someday! I have no doubts.
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Post by ragan on Jan 12, 2017 2:29:16 GMT -6
I'm loving this mic more the more I use it. I just point it at stuff and go "oh damn, that's it right there". I've never had a mic like it. Takes the idea of "taking EQ" to a new level. I guess that's kind of the U67s thing. You can do whatever the hell you want with it EQ wise and it just sounds so warm and alive and lovely. Count me a huge fan.
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Post by matt555 on Jan 12, 2017 7:01:57 GMT -6
Very interesting read. My mic locker isn't very big at the moment and lacking in the 47/67 flavour areas. I was going to DIY a 67 with a neumann capsule but when you look at the tlm67 + max mod, and considering im in the UK, for what ever reason the tlm67 is cheaper over here, its really a no brainer! Thanks for comparision files and info! regards, Matt
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Post by EmRR on Jan 12, 2017 8:08:12 GMT -6
The full kit build for a 67 looks like a nightmare to me. I don't have that much spare time, and it doesn't save you a ton of money either that I can tell.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 12, 2017 8:19:35 GMT -6
I'm loving this mic more the more I use it. I just point it at stuff and go "oh damn, that's it right there". I've never had a mic like it. Takes the idea of "taking EQ" to a new level. I guess that's kind of the U67s thing. You can do whatever the hell you want with it EQ wise and it just sounds so warm and alive and lovely. Count me a huge fan. You don't find it too dark? Are you running the bright mod?
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Post by ragan on Jan 12, 2017 10:18:07 GMT -6
I'm loving this mic more the more I use it. I just point it at stuff and go "oh damn, that's it right there". I've never had a mic like it. Takes the idea of "taking EQ" to a new level. I guess that's kind of the U67s thing. You can do whatever the hell you want with it EQ wise and it just sounds so warm and alive and lovely. Count me a huge fan. You don't find it too dark? Are you running the bright mod? No, I don't personally find it too dark at all. I'm just using the "normal" MaxMod. It's definitely mellow and smooth but it's so clear and detailed you can do whatever you want with EQ and sculpt it into what you want.
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Post by hadaja on Jan 13, 2017 9:45:27 GMT -6
So has anyone tried the beesneez mahalia ? I think that was there version style of a u67. I would be interested to hear peoples thougths.
Ragan - how different does the max mod sound to your gz67fet? Is there a simialr sound?
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Post by ragan on Jan 13, 2017 11:22:47 GMT -6
So has anyone tried the beesneez mahalia ? I think that was there version style of a u67. I would be interested to hear peoples thougths. Ragan - how different does the max mod sound to your gz67fet? Is there a simialr sound? I was very close to pulling the trigger on a Mahalia a few years ago but some of the clips comparing it to a U67 were unconvincing to me. That means next to nothing of course as far as me having any real perspective on the mic, but it did stop me from going through with it. As for the MaxMod v GZ67Fet, they're pretty different sounding. The GZ67Fet is actually voiced after an m269, so it's an airier mic. It's got lovely highs and a nice kinda low mid bloom that make it super versatile. It's a FET so it's kind of 'harder' sounding by comparison (or the tube is 'softer' sounding, depending on how you want to frame it) to the MaxMod. The MaxMod is darker, smoother, smokier. It's got lovely detail, but it's all presented in this smooth, creamy way. I, frankly, can't say enough about it. It's going to remain my 'main' mic. My voice, acoustic guitars, drums, anything I put it in front of brings big grins in my world. I stuck it in front of my 12 string the other night, which I always find difficult to record well, and it just aced it. I mean, it's clearly the superior mic in comparison to the GZ67Fet, but it's a helluva lot more expensive too. I've owned most of the usual suspects in the sub $2k range (AT, Shure, Neumann, CAD, Oktava, Pearlman, AKG, etc) and I think the GZ stuff and even the Warblers punch way, way above their pricepoint. But the MaxMod, to my ear, is truly top shelf. It's an immediately recognizable sound, especially if like me you're a classic rock junkie.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 13, 2017 11:47:15 GMT -6
I can't wait to get this at my place and put it up against my advanced audio CM 67VE. That's my custom U67. The vintage mode on it is pretty awesome.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 16, 2017 8:00:17 GMT -6
I caved. Just ordered the max mod.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 2, 2017 13:43:34 GMT -6
I received the kit yesterday. My first impressions are really positive. I'm going to hold off on a full review until I have some more time to really do some testing.
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