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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 10, 2019 16:17:17 GMT -6
The new Tim Campbell capsule Mk II SA67's will be ready soon, mine should be on its way sometime next week. I can't wait to do some tracking with it, and I'll post a comparison with the previous version.
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Post by ragan on Jul 10, 2019 16:58:39 GMT -6
The new Tim Campbell capsule Mk II SA67's will be ready soon, mine should be on its way sometime next week. I can't wait to do some tracking with it, and I'll post a comparison with the previous version. That will be cool to hear. My vote will be to post the files blind. Given the acrimony over that whole situation and various people securely in their corners and ready to pounce...best to not know which is which. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 10, 2019 17:35:14 GMT -6
Well said Ragan, for a burgeoning engineer: you sure are diplomatic !  |
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Post by Quint on Jul 10, 2019 17:43:36 GMT -6
Man, I'm still somewhat on the fence on the new version of the SA-67. It's Tim Campbell, so it's got to be good, right?
Still, all of the history behind this mic, and Stam in general, has me reluctant. I'd love to hear one with the new capsule in action first.
I guess I need to find out how many slots are left on this batch before I determine whether or not it's worth the risk to go ahead and put out a deposit for a mic (this version) which no one has ever heard.
I wonder if Stam will be posting sound clips prior to release?
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 10, 2019 19:28:21 GMT -6
The new Tim Campbell capsule Mk II SA67's will be ready soon, mine should be on its way sometime next week. I can't wait to do some tracking with it, and I'll post a comparison with the previous version. Let me know when you have it. Maybe I'll plan a visit.  |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 10, 2019 19:31:24 GMT -6
I think my comparison will clarify what's up.
I believe Tim made capsules for U67's long before he made his well known C-12/251 capsule, so I'm confident it's gonna be good. I never really loved the 3 Thiersch M7 capsules I had, and have been dissatisfied with a few other mics with their capsule pinching, so I learned the hard way that capsules are not easily made properly.
Stam has been making good progress getting to back orders and tightening up their customer service. As Stam gets their operation up to full speed, I think they'll begin to see a tremendous amount of orders.
Vincent, I'll give you a shout when it's here.
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Post by reddirt on Jul 10, 2019 19:45:15 GMT -6
An interesting point regarding MG M7s is that Klaus on another forum noted they were not as good in their recent past incarnations; also well known engineer JJ Blair alluded to their lack of high end so it might be worth tempering the lust a little even though Tim is in their corner with the 92.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 26, 2019 7:42:58 GMT -6
Just got the SA67 MK II and gave it a quick listen to check it was working. I popped on a track I use for comparing mics. I have a fair amount of mics on the track by now, and it's fun to do a quick comparison of one mic to a dozen others. My first impression was the Tim Campbell capsule made a significant difference. At first, they seem quite similar, because of course, they are, but as the differences revealed themselves I was much happier with the TC capsule. There was a more balanced tone, much like the more expensive Soyuz 0-17 and Chandler REDD, the low level detail was there. It was more transparent and had a cleaner high end, yet no extra sibilance.
Of course we're hair splitters here, but I'm glad I waited. I will do a nice acoustic guitar/vocal shootout for everyone here over the weekend and post files blind so you can choose for yourselves.
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Post by mike on Jul 26, 2019 13:39:44 GMT -6
Just got the SA67 MK II and gave it a quick listen to check it was working. I popped on a track I use for comparing mics. I have a fair amount of mics on the track by now, and it's fun to do a quick comparison of one mic to a dozen others. My first impression was the Tim Campbell capsule made a significant difference. At first, they seem quite similar, because of course, they are, but as the differences revealed themselves I was much happier with the TC capsule. There was a more balanced tone, much like the more expensive Soyuz 0-17 and Chandler REDD, the low level detail was there. It was more transparent and had a cleaner high end, yet no extra sibilance. Of course we're hair splitters here, but I'm glad I waited. I will do a nice acoustic guitar/vocal shootout for everyone here over the weekend and post files blind so you can choose for yourselves. That's awesome news Martin, I'll look forward to the files! |
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Post by mike on Jul 26, 2019 19:09:30 GMT -6
Just got the SA67 MK II and gave it a quick listen to check it was working. I popped on a track I use for comparing mics. I have a fair amount of mics on the track by now, and it's fun to do a quick comparison of one mic to a dozen others. My first impression was the Tim Campbell capsule made a significant difference. At first, they seem quite similar, because of course, they are, but as the differences revealed themselves I was much happier with the TC capsule. There was a more balanced tone, much like the more expensive Soyuz 0-17 and Chandler REDD, the low level detail was there. It was more transparent and had a cleaner high end, yet no extra sibilance. Of course we're hair splitters here, but I'm glad I waited. I will do a nice acoustic guitar/vocal shootout for everyone here over the weekend and post files blind so you can choose for yourselves.
Which tube is in your SA67 MK2 with the TC Cap Martin ?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 27, 2019 7:33:30 GMT -6
The SA67 with the Heiserman has the Telefunken EF86, the Mk II Tim Campbell version has a Siemens. Teo at Stam said the EF86's they had left were microphonic. I asked Stam about it, and they said they're the same. I really don't know, but I could switch tubes if I want. Right now I have a preference, so I'm not inclined to bother switching tubes.
Before making a final choice, I might switch tubes, just to see.
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Post by ragan on Jul 27, 2019 8:27:54 GMT -6
The SA67 with the Heiserman has the Telefunken EF86, the Mk II Tim Campbell version has a Siemens. Teo at Stam said the EF86's they had left were microphonic. I asked Stam about it, and they said they're the same. I really don't know, but I could switch tubes if I want. Right now I have a preference, so I'm not inclined to bother switching tubes. Before making a final choice, I might switch tubes, just to see. I didn’t realize you still had the MKI. This is awesome, you’ll be able to do the same take for both mics. This is a blind shootout I’m really keen to hear. |
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Post by mike on Jul 27, 2019 9:54:17 GMT -6
The SA67 with the Heiserman has the Telefunken EF86, the Mk II Tim Campbell version has a Siemens. Teo at Stam said the EF86's they had left were microphonic. I asked Stam about it, and they said they're the same. I really don't know, but I could switch tubes if I want. Right now I have a preference, so I'm not inclined to bother switching tubes. Before making a final choice, I might switch tubes, just to see. I think I would just to see since it's easy enough to do. I'm guessing your preference is the MK2 based on your description, It would be interesting to see how that Telefunken does in there compared to the Siemens....they're all a little different I think.... and though I doubt you know anyone close with one of these around, I have a feeling if you put a Telefunken 806-S in there, you'd never let it out. My 2 cents, probably worth less, |
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Post by ragan on Jul 27, 2019 10:00:38 GMT -6
The NOS Tele EF86 is a thing of beauty in a U67. Not a subtle difference.
After having mine for a year or two, I swapped back in a couple other tubes I had just to see if I might like something they brought to the table as well. I couldn’t get the EF86 back in there fast enough.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 27, 2019 11:05:35 GMT -6
Ragan, I completely forgot! Delete your post and I'll start a new one.
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Post by ragan on Jul 27, 2019 11:17:16 GMT -6
Ragan, I completely forgot! Delete your post and I'll start a new one. DONE |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 27, 2019 12:00:40 GMT -6
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 27, 2019 12:40:50 GMT -6
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 27, 2019 12:53:41 GMT -6
Thanks NoTomorrow! It took some doing to delete all the tracks, rename and upload them again, then create the new blind post that I forgot the link! I was wondering why there wren't any comments yet!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 27, 2019 16:29:53 GMT -6
In the new thread, there is a Mic #1 and a Mic #2.
Mic 1 is the SA67 with the Tim Campbell capsule, Mic 2 has the Heiserman. I posted this here temporarily so people can listen blind on the other thread.
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Post by wiz on Jul 27, 2019 17:12:17 GMT -6
In the new thread, there is a Mic #1 and a Mic #2. Mic 1 is the SA67 with the Tim Campbell capsule, Mic 2 has the Heiserman. I posted this here temporarily so people can listen blind on the other thread. I am glad to hear this as if I buy one I want mic 1 |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 27, 2019 17:49:43 GMT -6
Don't forget, that track was plain as bone, no EQ, no compression, no compressors on the 2 bus, one simple reverb in a small dose. I can only imagine how nice it will be when I'm tracking and mixing and can can tweak a little bit.
I used the Dizengoff D4 preamp because it's the classic Beatles combo,, U67 and Redd preamp circuit. I'll try the SA67 with the Stam SA73 Neve clone next. Also, the UAD Helios plug in is actually viable, so that's another option I can try later on.
Stay in touch with the shootout thread Wiz, I'll try the EF86 tube in the SA67 Mk II (Tim Campbell) version soon. Stam says the tubes are the same, and I believe him, but since I have both, I'll try it, just in case I happen to prefer one over the other. If Mic 1 (TC) had just a touch more weight on low end it'll be a monster The Neve could provide that or the tube, or a little compression, so we'll see asap.
I can't wait to do a comparison with a vintage U67 soon. I wish I had a Neumann reissue to compare to as well.
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Post by brenta on Nov 20, 2019 18:03:51 GMT -6
I pulled the trigger on the MK67 kit. All of the clips I’ve heard of it so far sound a little too dark for a U67, but Max has added a new “reissue mode” in place of the linear mode. Should be brighter than the regular mode but less bright than the linear. He’s also including a Valvo tube with this batch.
I bought a U87ai several months ago and this has been part of my long term plan. I might eventually replace the transformer with a Neumann and the tube with a Telefunken, but I’ll try it as is first. Might eventually get the innertube as well. Then I can switch between them all as needed.
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Post by wiz on Nov 20, 2019 18:14:47 GMT -6
I pulled the trigger on the MK67 kit. All of the clips I’ve heard of it so far sound a little too dark for a U67, but Max has added a new “reissue mode” in place of the linear mode. Should be brighter than the regular mode but less bright than the linear. He’s also including a Valvo tube with this batch. I bought a U87ai several months ago and this has been part of my long term plan. I might eventually replace the transformer with a Neumann and the tube with a Telefunken, but I’ll try it as is first. Might eventually get the innertube as well. Then I can switch between them all as needed. Is the end up price close to the re issue price? Cheers Wiz |
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 20, 2019 18:20:44 GMT -6
Is there a link for the version 2 max mod? Reissue mode?
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