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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 14, 2019 23:23:28 GMT -6
Out of curiosity, because the comparison comes up a lot, what do you guys think of the Mojave MA300 as 67ish mic. A lot of people seem to put it in that category and I figured I'd see if anyone on here had used one or had compared them to other mics, especially since they are fairly well priced.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 15, 2019 9:12:28 GMT -6
I've only heard the Mojave at B&H here in Manhattan. They have a great room with dozens of mics which you can shootout, with a choice of a number preamps too. I thought the Mojave was a very good mic, but a bit lacking in character. I'd rather have the Roswell Delphos which is $400 less expensive, 87 style, but has tons of it's own vibe. I'd really love to try the Stam SA67, hopefully it'll be here soon. Warm is probably going to come out with a 67 style mic at some point. It's the obvious addition to their 47, 87, 414 style line-up.
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Post by aremos on Jan 15, 2019 10:02:01 GMT -6
I'm curious about their other mic: MA 1000. Any feedback?
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 15, 2019 10:30:46 GMT -6
I'm curious about their other mic: MA 1000. Any feedback? My understanding is it is their 251 style mic |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 15, 2019 10:33:06 GMT -6
I've only heard the Mojave at B&H here in Manhattan. They have a great room with dozens of mics which you can shootout, with a choice of a number preamps too. I thought the Mojave was a very good mic, but a bit lacking in character. I'd rather have the Roswell Delphos which is $400 less expensive, 87 style, but has tons of it's own vibe. I'd really love to try the Stam SA67, hopefully it'll be here soon. Warm is probably going to come out with a 67 style mic at some point. It's the obvious addition to their 47, 87, 414 style line-up. Having heard clips of the WA87 and WA47 I can pretty much say a WA67 wouldn’t really meet my expectations, but they are definitely quality for the price point. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2019 10:37:52 GMT -6
The thing to remember about Mojave is your dealing with Chinese Capsules, they’re not bad mics but your always going to be limited by that capsule.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 15, 2019 10:43:41 GMT -6
The thing to remember about Mojave is your dealing with Chinese Capsules, they’re not bad mics but your always going to be limited by that capsule. I didn’t realize that, but it makes sense given the price point. |
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Post by Ward on Jan 15, 2019 12:03:19 GMT -6
The thing to remember about Mojave is your dealing with Chinese Capsules, they’re not bad mics but your always going to be limited by that capsule. should be dropping by any time with an opinion on Chinese capsules. Some aren't too bad . . . but there is often a 'rizziness' there that drives me nuts |
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2019 12:13:56 GMT -6
The thing to remember about Mojave is your dealing with Chinese Capsules, they’re not bad mics but your always going to be limited by that capsule. should be dropping by any time with an opinion on Chinese capsules. Some aren't too bad . . . but there is often a 'rizziness' there that drives me nuts For the most part unless hand selected they have a definite sound, that may work in circuit designed around them just not in the classic’s. |
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Post by ragan on Jan 15, 2019 13:00:33 GMT -6
The thing to remember about Mojave is your dealing with Chinese Capsules, they’re not bad mics but your always going to be limited by that capsule. should be dropping by any time with an opinion on Chinese capsules. Some aren't too bad . . . but there is often a 'rizziness' there that drives me nuts  Heheheheh. So, Ward. A good practice for intellectual success in life is to learn to hold multiple related, true statements in your mind - all at the same time. It's a gas, let's try it! 1. The low end market has been flooded with shitty Chinese capsules for a couple of decades. 2. Most higher cost, Western made capsules are better than those shitty Chinese capsules. 3. There's nothing inherently preventing Chinese manufacturers from making good capsules (the machinery doesn't care what continent it's on). 4. There is at least one Chinese builder making good capsules. 5. They need not be the equal of Neumann or golden era AKG to still be good capsules. 6. They can be both much better than the rest of the shitty Chinese capsules and not on the level of the truly world class - at the same time!7. Sometimes, for some people and applications, it's worth shelling out for the expensive stuff. And sometimes it's not! 8. The relationship between retail cost and inherent quality is non-linear (see attached, curve fitting applied). 9. Sometimes the end result benefits from high end gear and sometimes it doesn't (it's both of course, but it's more Indian than Arrow). 10. I myself even shell out for the high end stuff sometimes - and also still like and use some budget gear! I know, I know...the mind bends... Whew! How we doin'? Ok? Give it some time, you'll get the hang of it, I promise.  Attachments:
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Post by Ward on Jan 15, 2019 13:25:21 GMT -6
We're not so different, after all, ragan . . . you're just better at putting it smugly. LOL |
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Post by ragan on Jan 15, 2019 13:31:43 GMT -6
We're not so different, after all, ragan . . . you're just better at putting it smugly. LOL Hahaha. A fair assessment. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2019 13:35:09 GMT -6
It's the beer factor ! |
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2019 13:41:20 GMT -6
ragan should be dropping by any time with an opinion on Chinese capsules. Some aren't too bad . . . but there is often a 'rizziness' there that drives me nuts Heheheheh. So, Ward. A good practice for intellectual success in life is to learn to hold multiple related, true statements in your mind - all at the same time. It's a gas, let's try it! 1. The low end market has been flooded with shitty Chinese capsules for a couple of decades. 2. Most higher cost, Western made capsules are better than those shitty Chinese capsules. 3. There's nothing inherently preventing Chinese manufacturers from making good capsules (the machinery doesn't care what continent it's on). 4. There is at least one Chinese builder making good capsules. 5. They need not be the equal of Neumann or golden era AKG to still be good capsules. 6. They can be both much better than the rest of the shitty Chinese capsules and not on the level of the truly world class - at the same time!7. Sometimes, for some people and applications, it's worth shelling out for the expensive stuff. And sometimes it's not! 8. The relationship between retail cost and inherent quality is non-linear (see attached, curve fitting applied). 9. Sometimes the end result benefits from high end gear and sometimes it doesn't (it's both of course, but it's more Indian than Arrow). 10. I myself even shell out for the high end stuff sometimes - and also still like and use some budget gear! I know, I know...the mind bends... Whew! How we doin'? Ok? Give it some time, you'll get the hang of it, I promise. I have said many times the Chinese Capsules will be as good as anybody else when the Chinese realize in general that there is money in boutique manufacturing. At this point China is all about the mass market at this point. |
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Post by brenta on Jan 15, 2019 15:27:19 GMT -6
Out of curiosity, because the comparison comes up a lot, what do you guys think of the Mojave MA300 as 67ish mic. A lot of people seem to put it in that category and I figured I'd see if anyone on here had used one or had compared them to other mics, especially since they are fairly well priced. I had a MA200 for a couple years. When it came out it was often compared to a U67. I think the difference between the MA200 and MA300 is the 200 is cardioid only and the 300 is multipattern, but I’ve never used the 300. Anywho, I never had a chance to compare it directly to a U67, but it didn’t remind me much of one. I remember a U67 being fatter, warmer, and smoother. The MA200 was good for modern sounding vocals, great for hip hop vocals, and I got excellent acoustic guitar tones out of it going into a great river. It was an excellent workhorse and never sounded bad on a vocal. At the time I bought it there were very few tube microphones at $1k or less. Rode, SE, and the Mojave might have been it. Now there are a plethora of options. |
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Post by chessparov on Jan 16, 2019 13:19:35 GMT -6
Yes "inspired" by the Brauner Phanthera, expect Behringer to unleash the "Plethora"!
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Post by ericn on Jan 17, 2019 7:57:16 GMT -6
Yes "inspired" by the Brauner Phanthera, expect Behringer to unleash the "Plethora"! Chris I’m waiting for their KHE clone the “BS-E”😁 |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 5, 2019 21:25:42 GMT -6
Ok, so it’s not a U67 clone, but BLUE’s B11 capsule sounds really 67ish on my BLUE Bottle Rocket Stage II. It makes me want to grab the big bottle and call it a day. I recorded and engineered the EP for the new musical “Voyages” last fall. I used my BLUE Bottle Rocket Stage II with the B11 for every vocal on the EP. The musical’s website finally went up. You can hear the EP at the link below. schaeburmusic.wixsite.com/voyages/media |
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Post by timcampbell on Jul 6, 2019 9:34:25 GMT -6
Well there is always the Microtech gefell UM92.1S A real PVC M7 capsule with a good quality EF86 tube. I've never compared it directly to a U67 but the UM92.1S sounds wonderful
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Post by adamjbrass on Jul 8, 2019 15:05:38 GMT -6
Well there is always the Microtech gefell UM92.1S A real PVC M7 capsule with a good quality EF86 tube. I've never compared it directly to a U67 but the UM92.1S sounds wonderfule The UM92.1s is a "triple threat" microphone, which to my ears, gives you a bunch of sweet characteristics in one model. It is like a U67 having sex with an M49 having sex with a U47. |
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Post by Quint on Jul 8, 2019 16:29:48 GMT -6
Well there is always the Microtech gefell UM92.1S A real PVC M7 capsule with a good quality EF86 tube. I've never compared it directly to a U67 but the UM92.1S sounds wonderfule The UM92.1s is a "triple threat" microphone, which to my ears, gives you a bunch of sweet characteristics in one model. It is like a U67 having sex with an M49 having sex with a U47. Well when you put it like THAT..... I really need to check this mic out. It keeps popping up in conversations about mics I'm interested in. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 8, 2019 19:15:12 GMT -6
Not if I see her-ahem-it first!
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 8, 2019 19:16:52 GMT -6
Well, now the UM92.1S has peaked my interest as well... anyone have some clips?
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Post by hadaja on Jul 9, 2019 23:05:57 GMT -6
Reaching into the dark recesses of my mind trying to recall was there something about a mod on this model that fellow Oliver Archutt said could be done to improve this mic? Something to do with RF interference???
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 10, 2019 5:37:49 GMT -6
Reaching into the dark recesses of my mind trying to recall was there something about a mod on this model that fellow Oliver Archutt said could be done to improve this mic? Something to do with RF interference??? Yes. See the bottom of this page: recordinghacks.com/microphones/Microtech-Gefell/UM-92.1-S |
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