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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 27, 2017 12:16:34 GMT -6
I will say the new Telefunken U47 delivers its promise. It's a real U47, and sounds incredible. But yes, at $9,000, it's an unusual purchase. I don't know who their target customer is for those.
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 27, 2017 12:32:31 GMT -6
Are you guys using the MK 67 for more than just vocals? Drums guitar etc. i'm demoing the U 99 bock microphone . It is really cool. Brighter than the original u67 but very versatile Vocals, drums, acoustic gtrs, amps, tambourines...all good. |
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Post by ragan on Oct 27, 2017 13:13:12 GMT -6
Are you guys using the MK 67 for more than just vocals? Drums guitar etc. i'm demoing the U 99 bock microphone . It is really cool. Brighter than the original u67 but very versatile Vocals, drums, acoustic gtrs, amps, tambourines...all good. Same |
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Post by adamjbrass on Oct 27, 2017 14:12:33 GMT -6
hahahah, even the Josephson C-725? LOL Especially the Josephson. $9'000 is ridiculous. Same with the T-Funks, Bocks and all the other wildly overpriced American mics. Oh |
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Post by c0rtland on Oct 27, 2017 14:36:07 GMT -6
I will say the new Telefunken U47 delivers its promise. It's a real U47, and sounds incredible. But yes, at $9,000, it's an unusual purchase. I don't know who their target customer is for those. the same people that spend 15k on a vintage one. How much were u47's when they came out I wonder? |
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Post by joseph on Oct 27, 2017 14:46:09 GMT -6
hahahah, even the Josephson C-725? LOL Especially the Josephson. $9'000 is ridiculous. Same with the T-Funks, Bocks and all the other wildly overpriced American mics. The Josephson is perhaps the most state of the art mic of its type in existence for the price of any average Harley Davidson. So no, it's not overpriced, just expensive. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 27, 2017 14:46:21 GMT -6
Makes sense, they get one brand new, warranty, and cachet for less than a vintage. It is for all intents and purposes a new U47. All the vintage mics had many small variations in design over time, so there is rarely one that is the same as the next.
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Post by rowmat on Oct 27, 2017 15:05:51 GMT -6
I will say the new Telefunken U47 delivers its promise. It's a real U47, and sounds incredible. But yes, at $9,000, it's an unusual purchase. I don't know who their target customer is for those. the same people that spend 15k on a vintage one. How much were u47's when they came out I wonder? I've seen a Gotham Audio sales brochure from 1960 advertising a new Neumann U47 for somewhere in the $550 US price range. |
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Post by spindrift on Oct 27, 2017 15:28:24 GMT -6
Are you guys using the MK 67 for more than just vocals? Drums guitar etc. i'm demoing the U 99 bock microphone . It is really cool. Brighter than the original u67 but very versatile I've got 4. They are my workhorse mic. Stick it up, turn it up....good sounds easy peasy. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 27, 2017 15:31:39 GMT -6
Long shot, but anyone had a Soyuz and Max's MKU67 in the same room? I had the Soyuz 0-17 (tube), and the 0-11's for a week and did some tracks with them. later on, I got the 0-19 FET, which is identical to the 0-17, but no tube. So I'm fairly familiar with them. I also have long term experience with U87's and know them better than any mic. Vincent's Max Mod 87/67 sounds great. It's like a U87 on steroids, better than any U87 I've heard or used, completely a Neumann mic, not a "style of" thing. Ragan has a TLM 67 with the Max Mod, and his sounds even a little better that Vincent's, possibly from a tube change, I don't know why though. That's funny, because my MK U67 has a NOS EF86 from Bowie in it. |
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Post by ragan on Oct 27, 2017 15:32:23 GMT -6
Are you guys using the MK 67 for more than just vocals? Drums guitar etc. i'm demoing the U 99 bock microphone . It is really cool. Brighter than the original u67 but very versatile I've got 4. They are my workhorse mic. Stick it up, turn it up....good sounds easy peasy. You’ve got FOUR??? That’s awesome. |
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Post by ragan on Oct 27, 2017 15:35:51 GMT -6
I had the Soyuz 0-17 (tube), and the 0-11's for a week and did some tracks with them. later on, I got the 0-19 FET, which is identical to the 0-17, but no tube. So I'm fairly familiar with them. I also have long term experience with U87's and know them better than any mic. Vincent's Max Mod 87/67 sounds great. It's like a U87 on steroids, better than any U87 I've heard or used, completely a Neumann mic, not a "style of" thing. Ragan has a TLM 67 with the Max Mod, and his sounds even a little better that Vincent's, possibly from a tube change, I don't know why though. That's funny, because my MK U67 has a NOS EF86 from Bowie in it. Yeah Martin’s going off mixed tracks he’s heard of mine so not really a way to compare. Just out of curiosity, which version of the EF86 did you get? Christian gave me the rundown on the two types and I went with the “smoother” or “less open” (depending on subjective preference) version. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 27, 2017 15:56:49 GMT -6
I went with the more open and clinical version.
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Post by spindrift on Oct 27, 2017 17:33:35 GMT -6
I've got 4. They are my workhorse mic. Stick it up, turn it up....good sounds easy peasy. You’ve got FOUR??? That’s awesome. Yup, and I have this specific thread to thank for that. I find them to be wonderfully useful. Stick two up as a stereo pair with a dreadnaught acoustic guitar, a little Bricasti to taste and crank it up. It sounds f***in huge man. Here's some shots of them on drums. Lo-Tom Glyn Johns and Side Kick Drum duty. |
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Post by ragan on Oct 27, 2017 17:59:15 GMT -6
You’ve got FOUR??? That’s awesome. Yup, and I have this specific thread to thank for that. I find them to be wonderfully useful. Stick two up as a stereo pair with a dreadnaught acoustic guitar, a little Bricasti to taste and crank it up. It sounds f***in huge man. Here's some shots of them on drums. Lo-Tom Glyn Johns and Side Kick Drum duty. Fantastic. Haven’t tried that side kick position (with any mic), I’ll have to give it a go. |
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Post by spindrift on Oct 27, 2017 18:02:01 GMT -6
Well, it sounded good w/o the woof. Guitarist suggested it so I gave it a go. It sounds really good, but I ended up choosing the D12E for the mix. Just a more classic 70s sound we were going for.
Back on topic. I do find myself adding a touch of 12K to mine in a lot of cases to more closely match my real U67. They do match very closely.
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Post by EmRR on Oct 27, 2017 20:54:25 GMT -6
Funny no one seems to call them ioaudio 67's, 'cause that's his handle and company name and the name on all his previous products.....
anyway, today mine won on a particular vocal, with UMT70S coming in second and MF65 third. Guy had a very soft top, I kinda thought the Gefell would win there, but it was about the same and was not as articulate by any stretch. Still the pf86 in mine....and a treble tweak mod of my own.
Mine most definitely lost on a quietly fingerpicked classical guitar. Took it right down. All mud.
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Post by ericn on Oct 27, 2017 21:36:44 GMT -6
Funny no one seems to call them ioaudio 67's, 'cause that's his handle and company name and the name on all his previous products..... anyway, today mine won on a particular vocal, with UMT70S coming in second and MF65 third. Guy had a very soft top, I kinda thought the Gefell would win there, but it was about the same and was not as articulate by any stretch. Still the pf86 in mine....and a treble tweak mod of my own. Mine most definitely lost on a quietly fingerpicked classical guitar. Took it right down. All mud. You know Doug, It still amazes me when somebody puts up a mike and just runs with it because that's the vocal mic or the guitar mic. So often getting it right has been about getting it wrong in the first place and going from there! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 27, 2017 22:25:46 GMT -6
Some mics like a U87 kinda work on almost everything. The KM 84's were a little like that, but today if I could afford them, I'd get the Chandler REDD and a Soyuz 0-13, they're even easier to make work on anything.
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Post by jakeharris on Oct 27, 2017 22:35:18 GMT -6
Especially the Josephson. $9'000 is ridiculous. Same with the T-Funks, Bocks and all the other wildly overpriced American mics. The Josephson is perhaps the most state of the art mic of its type in existence for the price of any average Harley Davidson. So no, it's not overpriced, just expensive. We have a very different appreciation of expensive... To each their own. |
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Post by EmRR on Oct 30, 2017 12:01:31 GMT -6
the same people that spend 15k on a vintage one. How much were u47's when they came out I wonder? I've seen a Gotham Audio sales brochure from 1960 advertising a new Neumann U47 for somewhere in the $550 US price range. = $4,633.12 today. |
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Post by spock on Oct 30, 2017 12:21:29 GMT -6
I've seen a Gotham Audio sales brochure from 1960 advertising a new Neumann U47 for somewhere in the $550 US price range. = $4,633.12 today. and...then adjust/factor in today's supply vs demand + collector "irrational exuberance" inflation; same in any "vintage" fetish genre = $$$$. |
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Post by EmRR on Oct 30, 2017 12:24:19 GMT -6
And they're 'common' enough to be known, which drives prices. Truly rare stuff always brings less because fewer know to look for it.
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Post by spock on Oct 30, 2017 13:47:04 GMT -6
And they're 'common' enough to be known, which drives prices. Truly rare stuff always brings less because fewer know to look for it. Yes, engineers/producers need to keep better secrets...  |
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Post by Ward on Oct 31, 2017 5:48:36 GMT -6
And they're 'common' enough to be known, which drives prices. Truly rare stuff always brings less because fewer know to look for it. For instance??? |
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