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Post by henge on Jun 6, 2014 7:42:31 GMT -6
Who charges you taxes? Is it the retailer? If you purchased from Musician's Friend, for example, would you be charged tax? I know for us down here, online retailers don't charge us tax unless they have a physical presence in our state. We also score free shipping on everything. I imagine that you guys would get a shipping charge and possible customs fees and I have no idea what that would equate to, but would you be taxed as well? I'm curious about how the whole thing works because I've almost purchased some stuff from a Canadian retailer that had some good deals (especially with the exchange rates), but didn't end up going for it. You know what? I don't know if we get charged taxes but there is probably duty. Also don't forget the exchange rate and warranty issues. If the unit screws up I can't just pop down to the music store and return it. as Geoff said it works out to around $560 merican... |
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 6, 2014 7:44:20 GMT -6
Who charges you taxes? Is it the retailer? If you purchased from Musician's Friend, for example, would you be charged tax? I know for us down here, online retailers don't charge us tax unless they have a physical presence in our state. We also score free shipping on everything. I imagine that you guys would get a shipping charge and possible customs fees and I have no idea what that would equate to, but would you be taxed as well? I'm curious about how the whole thing works because I've almost purchased some stuff from a Canadian retailer that had some good deals (especially with the exchange rates), but didn't end up going for it. We get taxed at customs for stuff that crosses the border on the declared value. Sometimes customs can't be bothered, which saves us 13%. But usually we get hit with that plus a customs fee for the "courtesy" of having them check our packages (ooh - that sounded naughty). The Warm being made in China may have additional fees on top of that. Dunno. Stuff made in the US doesn't. And don't get me started on the heinous, egregious, and possibly illegal brokerage fees that you get hit with if you use FEDUps ground (and that goes if you order from Canada to the US as well - don't ever use this. Use USPS or ship by air if you have to use FedUps.) Buying from a retailer anywhere in Canada we get taxed by the retailer. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by henge on Jun 6, 2014 7:46:55 GMT -6
Who charges you taxes? Is it the retailer? If you purchased from Musician's Friend, for example, would you be charged tax? I know for us down here, online retailers don't charge us tax unless they have a physical presence in our state. We also score free shipping on everything. I imagine that you guys would get a shipping charge and possible customs fees and I have no idea what that would equate to, but would you be taxed as well? I'm curious about how the whole thing works because I've almost purchased some stuff from a Canadian retailer that had some good deals (especially with the exchange rates), but didn't end up going for it. We get taxed at customs for stuff that crosses the border on the declared value. Sometimes customs can't be bothered, which saves us 13%. But usually we get hit with that plus a customs fee for the "courtesy" of having them check our packages (ooh - that sounded naughty). The Warm being made in China may have additional fees on top of that. Dunno. Stuff made in the US doesn't. And don't get me started on the heinous, egregious, and possibly illegal brokerage fees that you get hit with if you use FEDUps ground (and that goes if you order from Canada to the US as well - don't ever use this. Use USPS or ship by air if you have to use FedUps.) Buying from a retailer anywhere in Canada we get taxed by the retailer. Cheers, Geoff True dat but paying between $600-680 for an 1176 rev D....I ain't complaining!!LOL |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 6, 2014 7:54:18 GMT -6
13% for customs eh? That's a drag. I guess I should be grateful for the deals that we can score down here being tax free and having free shipping.
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 6, 2014 8:18:08 GMT -6
13% for customs eh? That's a drag. I guess I should be grateful for the deals that we can score down here being tax free and having free shipping. 13% is the tax rate applied to just about everything we buy. The customs charge for the inspection isn't much - 8 bucks I think. Duty will depend on what the item is and where it was made. And at the moment the exchange rate adds close to 10% extra once converted to Canuck bucks. So ordering stuff from the States is a bit of a crap shoot with respect to what you'll get hit with crossing the border. Sometimes (the minority) stuff sails through without any additional fees. But sometimes we get hit with the taxes, customs charge and duty. I make my purchase decisions assuming I'm gonna get hit with all that stuff, and the rare time that I don't - bonus! I think if you order stuff from a Canadian retailer and you're in the US, you're going to have to pay our 13% tax. Anybody know if I'm correct? Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2014 9:13:52 GMT -6
Just a point of order, here... It's not really a Rev D clone, is it? More of a Rev E, from what I can tell from the history of 1176 variations. Ward why do you think it's more of a rev E? Because www.historyofrecording.com/Urei_1176.html |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2014 10:15:17 GMT -6
Hmm,
Based on the description from the warm site stating it is a "D" and uses the original transformer, while the "E" had a different transformer
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" Revision D has no circuit changes, but the additional low-noise circuitry was incorporated into a new main circuit board. Serial numbers 1239-2331
• Revision E has a new power transformer that is now switchable between 110 V and 220 V. "
seems the WA76 is a "D" so we benefit from the classic transformer, the low noise circuitry and standard other characteristics ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2014 10:21:47 GMT -6
True cost for canadians add in about 20%, if buying in states for inflated exchange rates, shipping , brokerage fees, customs and taxes and if you use paypal they charge 3-4%.
I explain this to sellers in the US but i understand not their problem
Oh ya and the shippers seem to charge 2-3x more than they charge you guys for the same or less distance !
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 6, 2014 10:51:39 GMT -6
Hmm, Based on the description from the warm site stating it is a "D" and uses the original transformer, while the "E" had a different transformer ( stated in the UA info): " Revision D has no circuit changes, but the additional low-noise circuitry was incorporated into a new main circuit board. Serial numbers 1239-2331 • Revision E has a new power transformer that is now switchable between 110 V and 220 V. " seems the WA76 is a "D" so we benefit from the classic transformer, the low noise circuitry and standard other characteristics ? The "different transformer" in the rev e. is referring to a switchable power transformer (for European markets), not the input/output transformer. I guess because the WA76 can run on European voltage, it's technically an E rather than a D, but I think it's just semantics at this point. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2014 11:42:14 GMT -6
I'm glad I'm not the only one paying attention, jcoutu1. I still plan on buying two of them and two TB12s in July. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2014 12:51:38 GMT -6
Not following the logic, if Warm had Cinemag spec the original transformer (reichenbach) and the rev E had an alteration how does this make the wa76 an "e"?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 6, 2014 13:15:45 GMT -6
Cinemag spec'd the original input/output transformers, not the power transformer. The power transformer on the WA76 is a line lump (I think is the term). Different transformers for different uses.
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Post by henge on Jun 6, 2014 14:01:25 GMT -6
Well, I'll be using mine tonight...and they will make me happy.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2014 14:36:35 GMT -6
Don't rub in ?
JOHN: Henge's hurting my feelings again !!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2014 19:45:02 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2014 20:03:36 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 7, 2014 10:41:18 GMT -6
Coming to papa next week.
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 8, 2014 7:56:32 GMT -6
Who charges you taxes? Is it the retailer? If you purchased from Musician's Friend, for example, would you be charged tax? I know for us down here, online retailers don't charge us tax unless they have a physical presence in our state. We also score free shipping on everything. I imagine that you guys would get a shipping charge and possible customs fees and I have no idea what that would equate to, but would you be taxed as well? I'm curious about how the whole thing works because I've almost purchased some stuff from a Canadian retailer that had some good deals (especially with the exchange rates), but didn't end up going for it. You know what? I don't know if we get charged taxes but there is probably duty. Also don't forget the exchange rate and warranty issues. If the unit screws up I can't just pop down to the music store and return it. as Geoff said it works out to around $560 merican... And, turns out mine may have to go back. The buttons on the right just don't catch. They do sometimes, but most of the time I have to push them in multiple times (slowly seems to work best) and even then sometimes it just refuses. Sonically everything is good. Anybody else have this issue? Will it work itself out in a time, or should I just take it back? Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 8, 2014 8:52:03 GMT -6
email Bryce at Warm Audio; he'll be straight with you !
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Post by henge on Jun 8, 2014 9:08:35 GMT -6
email Bryce at Warm Audio; he'll be straight with you ! Yup, deal with Bryce and he'll take care of you. |
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 8, 2014 19:43:14 GMT -6
email Bryce at Warm Audio; he'll be straight with you ! Yup, deal with Bryce and he'll take care of you. Played with it some more today and as long as I just used the GR and off buttons, all was fine. Since those are the only two I'm going to use, I may have spoke too soon. I suspect it's just a little spring that's gotten bent or misaligned in shipping etc. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 11, 2014 15:23:48 GMT -6
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Post by joey808 on Jun 11, 2014 15:47:42 GMT -6
Comgrats! let us know what you think. |
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Post by odyssey76 on Jun 11, 2014 15:50:44 GMT -6
Woohoo! Haven't used it yet, but it looks pretty! Real interested in hearing your thoughts also. This is on my list to buy before the end of summer. Keep us posted…….. |
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Post by mikec on Jun 12, 2014 9:31:58 GMT -6
Woohoo! Haven't used it yet, but it looks pretty! JK, I would love to know what you think after tracking some vocals through it and how it compares to the Sta. I am really impressed with mine when compared to the Retro powerstrip for putting the vocals really out front. Since I am thinking about adding a Sta also, I would be interested in your comparison. |
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