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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 8, 2016 14:20:54 GMT -6
Does this add any tonal stuff? Girth? sheen?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 8, 2016 14:32:52 GMT -6
hmm my sense is yes with the tubes and input and output transformers. Been super busy at work so haven't played as much with the wa-2a as I was hoping this week so far
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 9, 2016 16:50:17 GMT -6
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Post by M57 on Jun 9, 2016 17:55:37 GMT -6
Yeah, just talking - but at 1:10 kind of confirming what I thought about how it was pretty amazing on the low end of my vocal. I described it more in terms of how it tamed the bloat on plosives, but whatever it's doing down there, it's easily differentiated and absolutely more musical than any plug in my arsenal.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 9, 2016 18:43:56 GMT -6
There's a review of the Focusrite "red" interface in the May 2016 issue. It's smack on the cover, and they pointed out many flaws and shortcomings. They were fair, but far from glowing. I haven't read SOS until recently, and I was a little surprised by how straightforward the comments were, and risky too. That review could certainly give a major manufacturer pause to think about advertising there, yet they ran the review.
I can't speak about previous issues, or their track record of objectivity, as I wasn't a reader or subscriber.
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Post by rowmat on Jun 10, 2016 2:25:00 GMT -6
Okay so I pulled the pin and ordered one too! Pick it up Tuesday.
I have to retrack some female vox on Wednesday. We experimented with the Flea 47 > Neve 3115 > WA76 we felt her tone was a bit too hairy. Great for rock but this has a fifties Billie Holiday vibe.
We switched to a Rode NTR ribbon which she liked better but I felt it lost some intimacy and want to stick with the 47 but change the pre and the limiter.
I'm thinking Flea 47 > Mercury V72s or V76m > WA2A should round it off nicely.
I still want the 47's mids but just a little smoother than the original signal chain.
To be frank I reckon an M49 would have nailed it. Not tonight dear!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 10, 2016 5:44:07 GMT -6
Never heard this, but I dig it. Aussie term?
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Post by wiz on Jun 10, 2016 16:22:34 GMT -6
Never heard this, but I dig it. Aussie term? Might be Aussie only.. means commit, made a choice.. went with it... perhaps stems from "pulling the pin on a grenade" ? cheers Wiz
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Post by M57 on Jun 10, 2016 16:36:33 GMT -6
On this side of the pond we just pull the trigger, BANG! ..decision made. Apparently you Aussie types make decisions a bit more dramatically. Pull pin.............KABOOM!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 11, 2016 13:49:38 GMT -6
If you are suffering any WA-2A gear envy, just don't tell your special someone bout my hot new unboxing video Voice over is through the WA-2a: 1-2 db of comp.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 11, 2016 14:14:30 GMT -6
Good video kcat !
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 11, 2016 15:08:29 GMT -6
thx Martin,
btw you have heard my voice so much, that was my 47=> d4=> 2a no fx no verb.
I bet you can hear the presence ,focus and something extra the 2a was adding; even with just 1-2 db of comp.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 14, 2016 18:11:24 GMT -6
Hey Wiz,
I am messing with the logic I/O plug and have my patch bay half normalled.
The apollo shows the input signal on its front panel track metres, so if I send any daw channel out of logic on tracks 1-8 with the PB half normalled, I will always see that signal on the corresponding ichanel metre Right: e.g., 5 output signal on channel 5 metre.
I only way to see/hear/record the OB effect signal coming back ( like the wa2a return) is to patch its send back into the same channel input (5) on the patch bay: correct ?
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Post by wiz on Jun 14, 2016 18:58:04 GMT -6
Hey Wiz, I am messing with the logic I/O plug and have my patch bay half normalled. The apollo shows the input signal on its front panel track metres, so if I send any daw channel out of logic on tracks 1-8 with the PB half normalled, I will always see that signal on the corresponding ichanel metre Right: e.g., 5 output signal on channel 5 metre. I only way to see/hear/record the OB effect signal coming back ( like the wa2a return) is to patch its send back into the same channel input (5) on the patch bay: correct ? Honestly, I read that 5 times and couldnt follow it.. here is how you do it... Instantiate your IO plug on the track. Set up the Ins and Outs, to correspond to ins and outs you have connected (half normalled or normalled) Ping it. the resultant latency is the compensation.. also enter that figure in recording offset delay, if the IO plug says +36samples, enter -36 samples in recording offset delay. plug in the WA2A and tweak away, amazed at A) how great hardware is.. or B) why did I spend my money on THAT!!! either way, make sure to religiously post to newsgroups and unwavering opinion on either... 8) Now the issue comes when you want to print the track. I was just doing this. Here is MY way to do it, it ensure latency compensation under ALL circumstances... if you want to kill a few days, search and read on the topic.. I DID!! its soooooo much fun... 8) Lets call the track with the WA2A on it WA2A and the one we are going to print to REAMP Okay duplicate the WA2A track (highlight it and hit CONTROL D) this makes our REAMP track. Set the output of WA2A track to an unused bus, e.g. bus 21 Set the input of REAMP track to bus 21. The REAMP tracks fader and pan will match the WA2A track (critical if you want to keep the mix you were just hearing) set WA2A fader to UNITY and pan to Centre. turn off any sends on that track. Set REAMP to record and play from start to finish. Mute the IO plug in on WA2A track and mute the track itself this means any plug ins you had instantiated on the WA2A track , latency inducing plug ins for instance... noise reduction, anything.. will be properly compensated for. The rule is.. when reamping.. you MUST record from a BUS, not an INPUT.. NOT AN INPUT! okey dokey.. if you have problems.. we can face time or Skype and i will get you sorted. cheers Wiz
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Post by rowmat on Jun 14, 2016 20:04:41 GMT -6
I drove to the store yesterday to pickup my WA2A but it turned out they had forgotten to get it sent across from their warehouse on the other side of town. Now it's going to be Friday. I ordered a Radial JS3 mic splitter while I was there and checked out a pair of Barefoot MM27 MK2 monitors. We have nowhere near the budget but they were pretty awesome.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 15, 2016 5:40:38 GMT -6
Thx Wiz, I'll try that out.
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 15, 2016 11:04:19 GMT -6
What are the differences between the Wam and the Stam?
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 15, 2016 11:10:55 GMT -6
I believe Wiz said the Stam does not have the pre emphasis control.
Wa-2a uses modern tubes but if you want you can replace them with NOS and the WA-2a has am empty socket so you can replicate the original tube configuration if you want to.
I believe they are both using CineMag input output transformers but do not know if they are identical parts.
Sent from Chile sent vs a US/north american retailer. Not a biggee, but personally I didn't like the idea of possibly shipping a unit back to chile, if any repairs were required.
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Post by Ward on Jun 16, 2016 4:16:30 GMT -6
What are the differences between the Wam and the Stam? Cheers, Geoff The STAM sounds like a really good example of an authentic LA2a. It currently gets more use on vocals than my actual LA2As - it has the magic, but a faster T4 is needed some times, if you need quicker release and recovery time. I have only had demo time with the WA2a at NAMM.... i wasn't able to do a side by side comparison with an LA2a to be able to speak scientifically about it, but the T4 is quick.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 16, 2016 5:48:04 GMT -6
Doesn't Stam let you switch in a faster t4b for a fee ?
The wa-2a t4b is socketed so you can switch it out if you want.
You can get NOS tube sets from Bowie and elsewhere so you could have all original tubes in the wa-2a like the stam.
The owner's manual for the wa-2a says the modern tubes they supply have the same and or better specs than the original: so I guess it comes down to the sound you prefer and what you want to pay for ?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 16, 2016 7:40:45 GMT -6
I think the video link where the studio guys shootout the WA2A with their 60's LA2A's is cool. They basically said they're equal. I really appreciate when guys who've had years, (or decades) using something like LA2A's shootout a new piece. They know a lot better than me how it should sound and work.
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Post by rowmat on Jun 17, 2016 3:52:47 GMT -6
I picked mine up today. Haven't had a chance to give it a run yet but will do over the weekend and will report back.
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Post by rowmat on Jun 18, 2016 4:54:58 GMT -6
Okay I used the WA2A on a mix today (vocal) and it sounded great. I pushed it to quite silly extremes testing it out and it equitted itself well. Seems to be able to sit the vocal nicely just in front and manage to keep it there. Takes top end EQ on the way in and doesn't blow out the 'esses' and if anything seems to smooth them without dulling them. Rather impressed for the $$!
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Post by M57 on Oct 3, 2016 17:53:23 GMT -6
Just a quick shout out to Bryce at WA. I was having troubles last night (a Sunday evening). I was trying (for the first time) to get an I/O plug in Logic to go through my WA-2A. Everything was working fine, signal was passing but I was getting no Gain Reduction. In a panic I shot Warm a query through the customer service page on their site. Within an hour I got a reply directly from Bryce. Of course, it was user error and it turns out I simply needed to push the output at/from the plug itself to get it to a threshold level that would get the 2A to do its thing. I made it clear in my first e-mail that mine was just a home studio, but his response was quick, dedicated to the specifics and detailed.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 3, 2016 19:47:48 GMT -6
So you mean the i/o utility plug in logic, as you can set its levels going to the wa 2a: right ?
I have always found Bryce very helpful and that the Warm purchase experience is a very good one as well as after sales support.
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