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Post by svart on Sept 19, 2013 11:26:02 GMT -6
Honestly, even being born and raised in Georgia, I can't understand 3/4 of what he's singing in that tune. I usually don't listen to lyrics anyway.
It's just an attempt to stay relevant by referencing POPULAR happenings of current times. It'll draw the current up and coming listeners who are actually interested in the things he's singing about, that's all.
There are tons of songs from the past that reference things that happened or people that lived during the era around the time the song was written. I'd bet that most of you LIKE those old songs, but it's not because they were written with any spectacular amount of poetic prowess or anything else, it's because you IDENTIFY with them. I'd wager to bet that none of you dogging on the lyrics of this song want anything to do with what's in the content of those lyrics..
Who of you watch or follow Kim Kardashian? Now, how many of you like the lyrics of this song? I'd bet there is a good correlation between the two..
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 19, 2013 11:33:04 GMT -6
I feel like I'm labeled as a "malcontent" and "bitter"...but the real truth of the matter is - these days - I'm not labeled at at all - I'm not even noticed. And that's not just me...Take me out of the equation. There are so many talented songwriters that have been ignored or put out to pasture because they don't write the bullshit, cliche, inane, soul sucking shit that is coming out. I just refuse to believe there's not a market for an Eagles or a Tom Petty out there. I'm not talking about copying them - but a melody driven song that doesn't have an 808 in it.
Charles had an excellent point though - the current condition is evidence of rap's influence on modern music. But you can't tell me that there aren't people - a huge market that they're ignoring - that don't want that influence. I'm telling you - the market will correct itself. There will be SOME artist that comes along with songs that exposes these for the hackish shit that it is and it's going to change everything. At least that's the hope...who knows - it might be too far gone.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 19, 2013 11:35:33 GMT -6
Honestly, even being born and raised in Georgia, I can't understand 3/4 of what he's singing in that tune. I usually don't listen to lyrics anyway. It's just an attempt to stay relevant by referencing POPULAR happenings of current times. It'll draw the current up and coming listeners who are actually interested in the things he's singing about, that's all. There are tons of songs from the past that reference things that happened or people that lived during the era around the time the song was written. I'd bet that most of you LIKE those old songs, but it's not because they were written with any spectacular amount of poetic prowess or anything else, it's because you IDENTIFY with them. I'd wager to bet that none of you dogging on the lyrics of this song want anything to do with what's in the content of those lyrics.. Who of you watch or follow Kim Kardashian? Now, how many of you like the lyrics of this song? I'd bet there is a good correlation between the two.. I purposely have always avoided putting something in my song that would date it. I wanted a song to be timeless. Maybe that sounds melodramatic, but that's something that I consciously think about. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 19, 2013 11:44:52 GMT -6
How Ryan Adams isn't all over the country charts is a mystery. I guess he's just too real and too good. My friend has an art studio in Nashville, and he tells me there's some killer music underground there. I sure hope it rises up.
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Post by svart on Sept 19, 2013 11:49:06 GMT -6
Honestly, even being born and raised in Georgia, I can't understand 3/4 of what he's singing in that tune. I usually don't listen to lyrics anyway. It's just an attempt to stay relevant by referencing POPULAR happenings of current times. It'll draw the current up and coming listeners who are actually interested in the things he's singing about, that's all. There are tons of songs from the past that reference things that happened or people that lived during the era around the time the song was written. I'd bet that most of you LIKE those old songs, but it's not because they were written with any spectacular amount of poetic prowess or anything else, it's because you IDENTIFY with them. I'd wager to bet that none of you dogging on the lyrics of this song want anything to do with what's in the content of those lyrics.. Who of you watch or follow Kim Kardashian? Now, how many of you like the lyrics of this song? I'd bet there is a good correlation between the two.. I purposely have always avoided putting something in my song that would date it. I wanted a song to be timeless. Maybe that sounds melodramatic, but that's something that I consciously think about. That's good. i agree that should always be the case IMHO, but I can't say that others don't think completely the opposite from me. Then again, as was already said, it could just be a cash grab.. |
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Post by mobeach on Sept 19, 2013 12:40:56 GMT -6
We're sorry this video is currently unavailable. Did it suck that bad? Okay, it did play. And it is that bad. |
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Post by popmann on Sept 19, 2013 12:52:04 GMT -6
It unfortuantely DOES play for me....you on an iDevice? It needs flash.
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 19, 2013 13:03:52 GMT -6
I feel like I'm labeled as a "malcontent" and "bitter".. calling it like you see it is being honest not bitter, discontent displays you have IQ points that rise above the fall temperatures in nashville, and that you love and respect your chosen art form. Thats a lot more than you can say for the "stool brokers" that trade this garbage as coNmodity! I'd rather go through my life with a smirk, a smidge of integrity and empty pockets, than be a vacuous, no talent FRAUD like these fucks! The "stool brokers" who partake in this BS are parasites(including the pawn who's singing that garbage), they've latched on to their host, and are sucking the life out of it! they are well on their way to being the murderers of music! It's a god damn shame!!, and shame on their soulless existence! Now that's malcontent and bitter JK! lol! |
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Post by mobeach on Sept 19, 2013 15:12:25 GMT -6
At 0:13 in I heard the most cheesy sounding steel guitar sample, at least that's what I think it was.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 19, 2013 16:17:40 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure it's not a sample...
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Post by mobeach on Sept 19, 2013 16:30:22 GMT -6
It sounded like an Ocarina
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 19, 2013 16:59:32 GMT -6
I think the tracks are pretty poor too...
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 19, 2013 17:26:37 GMT -6
popmann, my buddy Dave Cobb produced the latest Jason Isbell record, done at Dave's studio in Green Hills. He also recently finished the new, yet to be released Lindi Ortega record. I heard the raw tracks from that and was floored. All cut live including vox. The Lindi record was the first complete project on his new Helios. Dave has is going on right now. Vibe for days and about as far from commercial country radio as you can get. I know he does what he wants to do and could care less about the Nashville machine. I have been a fan of modern CM for the last 10 years or so but the recent stuff has really been turning me off. Who's been following the Zack Brown / Luke Bryan thing? Zack call's out LB's latest single as shit and he's right. I hate it. Written by the opposite of JK. www.countryweekly.com/news/zac-brown-luke-bryan-hit-new-song-worst-song-ive-ever-heard Now compare that Luke Bryan shit to that Jeff referenced to this^^^^. And here's the sad part, this Stapleton song doesn't have a chance at the charts. It's far too good. And so is he by the way. Chris is one of the greatest artists to EVER hit that town but he'll never rise above a cult following because he's not the type of guy to sell out and cut or write that Luke Bryan kinna bullshit. Please forgive me for posting a Spotify link JK. That's the only place I could find the song because his label won't put any support behind it. Doesn't have a single reference to ignorant beer drinking, bonfire attending rednecks. edit. this record was produced by Tony Brown who as most know produced Gill and so many other heavyweights through the years. Brown said in an interview about working with Chris that he got nervous working with him because he was so good. |
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Post by popmann on Sept 19, 2013 17:44:13 GMT -6
Have no idea where the reference to Chris came from....? But, regardless, here's the same song on YouTube:
This is the record we were referencing by Jason Isbell:
Or Kim's I mentioned:
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Post by jazznoise on Sept 19, 2013 17:58:52 GMT -6
I feel your pain . Living in 2013 , EVERYTHING SUCKS !!!! Entertainment wise . Its depressing but once you accept it , like I did a few years back , you just stop caring and do your own thing . I don't expect anything good to come out any more . The only music I buy is used CD's , usually pre-1995 , no remasters . Same goes for everything else I like too , movies , TV , Video games , its all pre-95..........So let the crap continue to come out , I don't care , I expect it to come out . Woah, Scumbum has officialy gone hipster! I'm kidding. I don't like Pop but it's unfair to say there's no good music. The new Deerhoof album Breakup Song is f*cking amazing. My Bloody Valentine's MBV was a huge hit. The Flaming Lips are getting weirder by the day. New Shellac record soon (!!!!!!!) I'm off to see a noise improv group, Mainliner, on Sunday and I'm stoked. Haven't been this excited since Thurston Moore came to Ireland. Maybe these are the advantages of loving super noisey music - but it seems like it's really starting to come together more than anything. You can make a living off of it, it would seem, but there's not too much money. No one seems to be up for gutting it for cash just yet. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 19, 2013 18:16:14 GMT -6
popmann, my buddy Dave Cobb produced the latest Jason Isbell record, done at Dave's studio in Green Hills. He also recently finished the new, yet to be released Lindi Ortega record. I heard the raw tracks from that and was floored. All cut live including vox. The Lindi record was the first complete project on his new Helios. Dave has is going on right now. Vibe for days and about as far from commercial country radio as you can get. I know he does what he wants to do and could care less about the Nashville machine. I have been a fan of modern CM for the last 10 years or so but the recent stuff has really been turning me off. Who's been following the Zack Brown / Luke Bryan thing? Zack call's out LB's latest single as shit and he's right. I hate it. Written by the opposite of JK. www.countryweekly.com/news/zac-brown-luke-bryan-hit-new-song-worst-song-ive-ever-heard Now compare that Luke Bryan shit to that Jeff referenced to this^^^^. And here's the sad part, this Stapleton song doesn't have a chance at the charts. It's far too good. And so is he by the way. Chris is one of the greatest artists to EVER hit that town but he'll never rise above a cult following because he's not the type of guy to sell out and cut or write that Luke Bryan kinna bullshit. Please forgive me for posting a Spotify link JK. That's the only place I could find the song because his label won't put any support behind it. Doesn't have a single reference to ignorant beer drinking, bonfire attending rednecks. edit. this record was produced by Tony Brown who as most know produced Gill and so many other heavyweights through the years. Brown said in an interview about working with Chris that he got nervous working with him because he was so good. Is that song not doing well? I don't look at the charts... |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 19, 2013 18:19:23 GMT -6
48 on the Nielson charts. Hell, the only place they play it on the radio is Nashville and mine and Chris's hometown. But we sure as shit hear that Luke Bryan tune coast to coast.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 19, 2013 18:29:08 GMT -6
Wow...I really thought Stapleton would be one of those that broke through. Just more evidence that it's heading away from my tastes. Doesn't surprise me, though. I heard a smart song by Wade Bowen the other day called, "Songs About Trucks"...Gave me hope that maybe the world was sick of the same old shit. Although, I could've just been hoodwinked because the entire chorus is about trucks. Fantastic idea though and really well done. All it's gonna take is one artist to sing some real shit and the rest of them will follow.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 19, 2013 18:29:54 GMT -6
What label is Chris on? I wouldn't doubt it gets some more push before it's over.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 19, 2013 18:35:46 GMT -6
Mercury. It's been at stations now for 10 weeks and has had 348 spins nationwide. Amazing
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 19, 2013 18:55:29 GMT -6
Kennedy we should have a contest for us writers here on the board to see who can write the shittiest song. You play it at a writers round down there and they'll be fighting over who gets to cut it. Here's one I wrote awhile back, basically giving Nashvagas the finger. This should get us started with the contest  soundcloud.com/herb-music/this-aint-that-song |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 21:09:14 GMT -6
I too like the sound of R Flatts and Urban's stuff (not the new one) as Justin Neibank mixed them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 21:39:13 GMT -6
It's hard to hate on this, folks:
^ THAT'S CLEVER LYRIC WRITING, FOLKS! And check out the bebop solos by the slide player in the middle!
I wonder what you guys think of this:
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Post by levon on Sept 19, 2013 23:40:24 GMT -6
I feel like I'm labeled as a "malcontent" and "bitter"...but the real truth of the matter is - these days - I'm not labeled at at all - I'm not even noticed. And that's not just me...Take me out of the equation. There are so many talented songwriters that have been ignored or put out to pasture because they don't write the bullshit, cliche, inane, soul sucking shit that is coming out. I just refuse to believe there's not a market for an Eagles or a Tom Petty out there. I'm not talking about copying them - but a melody driven song that doesn't have an 808 in it. Charles had an excellent point though - the current condition is evidence of rap's influence on modern music. But you can't tell me that there aren't people - a huge market that they're ignoring - that don't want that influence. I'm telling you - the market will correct itself. There will be SOME artist that comes along with songs that exposes these for the hackish shit that it is and it's going to change everything. At least that's the hope...who knows - it might be too far gone. Well said! I'm not against merging certain genres, even those that seemingly don't go together. That's the way new stuff is created. Merging rap and rock has yielded some interesting results, although I'm certainly not into rap at all. The Eagles merged country with rock, now tell me that they didn't come up with some awesome stuff. Point is, as long as this is done to create something new artistically, I think it's fine. If it's only done to appear hip, to desperately try to appeal to new audiences (with more potential revenue), then it sucks, it's soulless. That track that John posted has no originality at all, it's cookie-cutter, cliche, plastic crap, not aimed at peoples' hearts but at their wallets. (Now, where was that puke emoticon  ) |
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 19, 2013 23:55:30 GMT -6
I wonder what you guys think of this: this is real good stuff, good tones, love sweet baby james of course, the recording is excellent. |
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