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Post by LesC on Jul 5, 2015 17:38:25 GMT -6
I would really only need a single LA-3A type compressor, is there a way to build an SA-3A into a 19" rackmount box, either one or two units high? Or would that just look silly? The SA3A IS a rack mount box. If you just need a single, I'd get a Serpent Chimera and call it good. But personally, I'd do as scoutu1 says and do a stereo unit. (SA3A) Yes, I know the SA3A is a rackmount, but its stereo, so I was wondering if there is an attractive way to rack mount a single unit. But if need be, I'll get a stereo unit. I mostly record vocals acoustically and I only have one really good mic. I've been thinking about the mic John is trying to sell. I'm sure by the time I've decided, someone else will have picked it up. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 5, 2015 17:44:28 GMT -6
The SA3A IS a rack mount box. If you just need a single, I'd get a Serpent Chimera and call it good. But personally, I'd do as scoutu1 says and do a stereo unit. (SA3A) Yes, I know the SA3A is a rackmount, but its stereo, so I was wondering if there is an attractive way to rack mount a single unit. But if need be, I'll get a stereo unit. I mostly record vocals acoustically and I only have one really good mic. I've been thinking about the mic John is trying to sell. I'm sure by the time I've decided, someone else will have picked it up. Once you use one, you WILL want the pair, i have 4, as far as Dan is concerned, he's an awesome builder, he is under the weather right now, he'll be back in no time, as far as me building a rig, i'm not into it right now, i have to focus my time on finishing a couple projects for others, and then my own, until this place is done, no more new stuff! 8) |
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Post by scumbum on Jul 6, 2015 10:06:22 GMT -6
LesC excited for u bro! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it, beside all the power in that thing, how cool is that gonna look in ur rack? and who wouldn't want to point and say "that's my Serpent"  Thank you Tony. Talking about Serpents, take a look at my recording studio buddy. He doesn't say much, but he's the creative half of the partnership: I'm scared ! What do you use those Marshalls for ? |
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Post by LesC on Jul 6, 2015 12:20:54 GMT -6
Thank you Tony. Talking about Serpents, take a look at my recording studio buddy. He doesn't say much, but he's the creative half of the partnership: I'm scared ! What do you use those Marshalls for ? The Marshalls are connected to a twin-twelve stereo/dual-mono Avatar cab, and I use them when I'm teaching. They sound great, and can get very loud even on their 0.1 watt settings. |
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Post by scumbum on Jul 7, 2015 9:17:58 GMT -6
I'm scared ! What do you use those Marshalls for ? The Marshalls are connected to a twin-twelve stereo/dual-mono Avatar cab, and I use them when I'm teaching. They sound great, and can get very loud even on their 0.1 watt settings. What models are they ? Solid State ? |
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Post by LesC on Jul 7, 2015 14:25:34 GMT -6
The Marshalls are connected to a twin-twelve stereo/dual-mono Avatar cab, and I use them when I'm teaching. They sound great, and can get very loud even on their 0.1 watt settings. What models are they ? Solid State ? They are a DSL-1H and a JVM-1H, tubes, switchable between 1 and 0.1 watts. These are the 50th anniversary editions, grossly over-priced but cute and great sounding to my old, tired, high-volume-damaged ears. |
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Post by rickcarson on Jul 8, 2015 7:34:51 GMT -6
Hey guys, I just wanted to chime in and say that we have 3 fully finished SA-3a units for sale that were finished by Brian Roth. They have been built with SSL oxygen free crystal cable. We built 7 units originally and have decided to keep 4. They are wonderful units!
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 8, 2015 7:41:13 GMT -6
Hey guys, I just wanted to chime in and say that we have 3 fully finished SA-3a units for sale that were finished by Brian Roth. They have been built with SSL oxygen free crystal cable. We built 7 units originally and have decided to keep 4. They are wonderful units! How much? Where are they listed? |
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Post by rickcarson on Jul 8, 2015 7:53:35 GMT -6
I have them up on ebay listed for $2200 or best offer. Make an offer on here, I am willing to be flexible for this awesome community and do have some wiggle room in there.
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Post by scumbum on Jul 8, 2015 11:13:06 GMT -6
What models are they ? Solid State ? They are a DSL-1H and a JVM-1H, tubes, switchable between 1 and 0.1 watts. These are the 50th anniversary editions, grossly over-priced but cute and great sounding to my old, tired, high-volume-damaged ears. Nice ! I wanted to get one of those 50th anniversary mini heads . |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 24, 2015 8:35:37 GMT -6
I was hoping Warm would be the 1st "affordable" gear maker to do one of these comps just because I really like what Bryce does. Never owned any GA gear but will be curious to hear sound samples and read reviews. Really would like a nice opto........, where did everyone get the idea they'd be affordable? Quite honestly, the Serpent Chimera IS an absolute beast of an actual LA3A, with all the mods that LA3A guys always get built right in, including sidechain filters! true bypass, infamous clean/dirty mod, t4b optical sensor, cinemag input tranny, custom replica output tranny, true bypass, stereo linkable. It's about $1k, and has every component i would choose if i was building it myself, i have 4 channels of this in 19" rack diy form, but i screwed something up a bit back and haven't gotten them back up and running, for the short time they were, wow!! Looks like the 3a is shipping now and selling for $499. Looks A LOT like the Serpent. 2A is due in February apparently. www.proaudiostar.com/golden-age-comp3a.html |
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 24, 2015 9:45:25 GMT -6
where did everyone get the idea they'd be affordable? Quite honestly, the Serpent Chimera IS an absolute beast of an actual LA3A, with all the mods that LA3A guys always get built right in, including sidechain filters! true bypass, infamous clean/dirty mod, t4b optical sensor, cinemag input tranny, custom replica output tranny, true bypass, stereo linkable. It's about $1k, and has every component i would choose if i was building it myself, i have 4 channels of this in 19" rack diy form, but i screwed something up a bit back and haven't gotten them back up and running, for the short time they were, wow!! Looks like the 3a is shipping now and selling for $499. Looks A LOT like the Serpent. 2A is due in February apparently. www.proaudiostar.com/golden-age-comp3a.htmllooks like they didn't have the decency to even change the mod/norm switch, i hope mike from serpent gave them his blessing? otherwise... lame. It's also about $200 more than building your own SA3A, and i'd bet the component quality isn't close...., lets see the inside. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 24, 2015 9:51:30 GMT -6
looks like they didn't have the decency to even change the mod/norm switch, i hope mike from serpent gave them his blessing? otherwise... lame. It's also about $200 more than building your own SA3A, and i'd bet the component quality isn't close...., lets see the inside. I'm sure it's not even close component wise. When I spec'd an SA3A build though, it was coming in around $1200 plus the time to build. I expect that you can score a pair of these GAP units for about $900 with a phone call. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 24, 2015 10:00:58 GMT -6
looks like they didn't have the decency to even change the mod/norm switch, i hope mike from serpent gave them his blessing? otherwise... lame. It's also about $200 more than building your own SA3A, and i'd bet the component quality isn't close...., lets see the inside. I'm sure it's not even close component wise. When I spec'd an SA3A build though, it was coming in around $1200 plus the time to build. I expect that you can score a pair of these GAP units for about $900 with a phone call. hmmm? not doubting you at all, but where did you source the stuff? i built one and have another sitting here waiting for me to get to it, $1,200 is steep man, I paid no more than $950 for everything on my first one, i need to still get the meters, knobs, tranny's for the second... no damn $! Have you used your new one yet? how u likey? |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 24, 2015 10:12:22 GMT -6
I'm sure it's not even close component wise. When I spec'd an SA3A build though, it was coming in around $1200 plus the time to build. I expect that you can score a pair of these GAP units for about $900 with a phone call. hmmm? not doubting you at all, but where did you source the stuff? i built one and have another sitting here waiting for me to get to it, $1,200 is steep man, I paid no more than $950 for everything on my first one, i need to still get the meters, knobs, tranny's for the second... no damn $! Have you used your new one yet? how u likey? I spec'd it out to 11 and change plus shipping. Looks like I could have knocked some bucks off, but once the shipping is added together and stuff, you'd still be over $1100. realgearonline.com/thread/1555/serpent-audio-sa-3aI'm happy with mine so far. Only used it on heavy electric so far, but I'm tracking a singer/songwriter and it'll almost certainly end up on his acoustic at mix. |
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Post by kidvybes on Dec 24, 2015 16:22:15 GMT -6
If the 3A is $499. what's the 2A gonna be?...if it's tube based, gotta be more, no?
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Post by wiz on Dec 24, 2015 16:30:54 GMT -6
The 3A looks great!
cheers
Wiz
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Post by tasteliketape on Dec 24, 2015 18:33:09 GMT -6
Uses a classic T4-style electro-optical attenuator to control gain with program dependent attack and release .
Very simple to operate with only two main controls, Gain and Peak Reduction.
HF control can make the side-chain circuit more sensitive to mid and high frequency content.
A big meter selectable to show gain reduction or output level at two different reference levels.
Hardwire bypass switch for easy comparisons.
XLR and TRS input and output jacks for flexible connections.
Link jack and switch for connecting to another unit for stereo operation.
All external controls located on the front panel.
External power supply to avoid interaction with the audio circuits and transformers.
Compact 2RU half rack format. Two units can be mounted with our 19-inch rack kit, the UNITE
Selectable output transformer loading resistors by an internal jumper, will affect the high end frequency response. from the zen pro site golden age la3a
some one buy one of these an report so i don't get screwed ion case they suck lol
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Post by rocinante on Dec 24, 2015 20:05:48 GMT -6
Okay so as Im sure you are all aware its components selection that makes the la2a what it is. T4bs, Tubes, caps, Transformers.
Are all integral in how it operates.
So that said as long as those components are decent I cant imagine it sounding bad. Maybe a little slow from the t4b which many people like (i dont). Maybe not as beefy as an la2a but do a little component switching and im sure it could be modified to get pretty close.
I had a modded pre 73 mkll. I thought it definitely held its own next to my Heritage but like others said it needs to get modded.
The comp 54 is actually a total sleeper comp imo. I use mine often. One more piece I haven't got to modding but plan on it. It only get better.
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 24, 2015 21:01:11 GMT -6
Okay so as Im sure you are all aware its components selection that makes the la2a what it is. T4bs, Tubes, caps, Transformers. Are all integral in how it operates. So that said as long as those components are decent I cant imagine it sounding bad. Maybe a little slow from the t4b which many people like (i dont). Maybe not as beefy as an la2a but do a little component switching and im sure it could be modified to get pretty close. I had a modded pre 73 mkll. I thought it definitely held its own next to my Heritage but like others said it needs to get modded. The comp 54 is actually a total sleeper comp imo. I use mine often. One more piece I haven't got to modding but plan on it. It only get better. I'd take an La3a over just about any set and forget compressor ever made, between a la2 and 3, no contest imo, also, slow is great for allowing the transients through, it's part of why the la3a is so great for acoustic guitar imo. |
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Post by tasteliketape on Dec 24, 2015 21:47:18 GMT -6
Wish I had the coin to buy Rick Carson la3a
Brian Roth is a wizard with all things audio
Did a lot for work for Leon Russell's church studio back in the day
look up Brian Roth technical service
theres a console he built that's bad ass think he was very young when he built it
sorry for the hijack
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Post by Ward on Dec 25, 2015 7:10:57 GMT -6
It'll take massive convincing for me to ever believe that someone has gotten an LA3a clone right!! You would think after all this time, right? I mean, I own a completely convincing LA2a clone in the STAM SA2a but I have yet to come across a convincing LA3a clone. I agree with tonycamphd that there is magic in an LA3a - acoustic and electric guitars. And to replicate it for under $500? I am an extremey doubting Thomas this morning, Bah Humbug. |
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Post by wiz on Dec 25, 2015 15:54:47 GMT -6
I was thinking more along the lines of, that its a good platform to start with. Its discrete, has in and out transformers.... it might, might be a good modding platform...
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Ward on Dec 26, 2015 7:32:27 GMT -6
I was thinking more along the lines of, that its a good platform to start with. Its discrete, has in and out transformers.... it might, might be a good modding platform... cheers Wiz I'll wait for him to weigh in, as he's a member here, but I know that one of the 'reproduction specialists' is considering an actual accurate LA3a clone. For $700. |
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Post by rocinante on Dec 27, 2015 0:29:10 GMT -6
I was thinking more along the lines of, that its a good platform to start with. Its discrete, has in and out transformers.... it might, might be a good modding platform... cheers Wiz Yeah kinda what I was saying too. |
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