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Post by kidvybes on Jul 2, 2015 18:59:24 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Jul 2, 2015 19:07:46 GMT -6
Interesting very interesting!
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Post by RicFoxx on Jul 2, 2015 19:58:03 GMT -6
Good time to love audio recording and gear.
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Post by odyssey76 on Jul 2, 2015 20:01:06 GMT -6
I was hoping Warm would be the 1st "affordable" gear maker to do one of these comps just because I really like what Bryce does. Never owned any GA gear but will be curious to hear sound samples and read reviews. Really would like a nice opto........,
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Post by wiz on Jul 2, 2015 20:12:15 GMT -6
those things will fly off the shelves if they are sub a grand.
Also wouldnt hurt if they sound good...
wonder what the power supply side is
cheers
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Post by ericn on Jul 2, 2015 20:43:12 GMT -6
those things will fly off the shelves if they are sub a grand. Also wouldnt hurt if they sound good... wonder what the power supply side is cheers Wiz For anything solid state a wart makes sense, besides keeping cost down instant UL/CA and many other approved if the wart is approved already. This means in places like California you can install it in a public place like a church or school! If no UL aproveal it's not to code and if you have a electrical fire, say good by to your insurance and liability coverage! Seams stupid but man it makes a difference to manufacturers!
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Post by wiz on Jul 2, 2015 21:55:25 GMT -6
Good points, I was wondering more if it was a proprietary thingy... you know.. buy our power supply that powers 3 of our bits of gear things...
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Wiz
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Post by jazznoise on Jul 2, 2015 22:12:30 GMT -6
If they're under a grand a pop I'll have one of each!
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Post by levon on Jul 2, 2015 23:10:05 GMT -6
If that 2A is really the size of an LA-3A, I wonder about the tubes...
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 2, 2015 23:19:31 GMT -6
I was hoping Warm would be the 1st "affordable" gear maker to do one of these comps just because I really like what Bryce does. Never owned any GA gear but will be curious to hear sound samples and read reviews. Really would like a nice opto........, where did everyone get the idea they'd be affordable? Quite honestly, the Serpent Chimera IS an absolute beast of an actual LA3A, with all the mods that LA3A guys always get built right in, including sidechain filters! true bypass, infamous clean/dirty mod, t4b optical sensor, cinemag input tranny, custom replica output tranny, true bypass, stereo linkable. It's about $1k, and has every component i would choose if i was building it myself, i have 4 channels of this in 19" rack diy form, but i screwed something up a bit back and haven't gotten them back up and running, for the short time they were, wow!!
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Post by drbill on Jul 2, 2015 23:33:36 GMT -6
I'd have to agree with Tony. The Serpent SA3A or Chimera LA3A clones are actually better than clones. They're clones with all the mods that sound amazing. And they are affordable.
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Post by KJ on Jul 2, 2015 23:59:56 GMT -6
Speaking of Serpent... what happened to their splice mk2?
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Post by gouge on Jul 3, 2015 0:01:03 GMT -6
I don't think these are meant to be clones. the webpage says inspired by.
i'll probably get another la500a :-)
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Post by odyssey76 on Jul 3, 2015 4:24:25 GMT -6
I was hoping Warm would be the 1st "affordable" gear maker to do one of these comps just because I really like what Bryce does. Never owned any GA gear but will be curious to hear sound samples and read reviews. Really would like a nice opto........, where did everyone get the idea they'd be affordable? Quite honestly, the Serpent Chimera IS an absolute beast of an actual LA3A, with all the mods that LA3A guys always get built right in, including sidechain filters! true bypass, infamous clean/dirty mod, t4b optical sensor, cinemag input tranny, custom replica output tranny, true bypass, stereo linkable. It's about $1k, and has every component i would choose if i was building it myself, i have 4 channels of this in 19" rack diy form, but i screwed something up a bit back and haven't gotten them back up and running, for the short time they were, wow!! The "affordable" comment is based on the prices of the current GA gear. I figured it these would follow suit.
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Post by warrenfirehouse on Jul 3, 2015 7:25:58 GMT -6
This looks cool but im skeptical. Last year I listened to a bunch of shootouts and chose the bla b173 over the gap pre. It sounded better to me in all the clips I heard. The Bla is a prerty cool pre but once I bought my neve, I realized it sounds a bit toyish in comparison.
I have a feeling these will be similar. I would feel alot better if they were coming from Warm.
Anyone tried the 500 series IGS 2a clone? That one's about a grand and I have read good things.
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Post by scumbum on Jul 3, 2015 9:27:02 GMT -6
This looks cool but im skeptical. Last year I listened to a bunch of shootouts and chose the bla b173 over the gap pre. It sounded better to me in all the clips I heard. The Bla is a prerty cool pre but once I bought my neve, I realized it sounds a bit toyish in comparison. I have a feeling these will be similar. I would feel alot better if they were coming from Warm. Anyone tried the 500 series IGS 2a clone? That one's about a grand and I have read good things. I listened to an original and modded Golden Age Pre-73 on Zen Pro Audio's clipalator . You gotta have it modded . The original wasn't that great . Sounded smaller and like a Toy . I downloaded a bunch of samples , including the Warm , Focusrite ISA One , Daking , Mackie Onyx , and to my ears the Golden Age Pre 73 with the full mod sounded better than everything . It had that classic familiar NEVE sound .
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Post by LesC on Jul 3, 2015 10:31:10 GMT -6
Speaking of Serpent... what happened to their splice mk2? ZenPro has an open-box one on sale: $1599 ($100 off)
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Post by RicFoxx on Jul 3, 2015 10:36:40 GMT -6
Anyone tried the 500 series IGS 2a clone? That one's about a grand and I have read good things. I have and I thought it was excellent but it didn't sound like my LA2A...it sounded more clean whereas my LA2A sounds rich, luscious and big. But still absolutely awesome sounding. I have been lusting for the serpent audio stuff for a while now. I sold my WA76 to buy the Splice but just haven't done it yet!
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Post by LesC on Jul 3, 2015 12:07:46 GMT -6
Anyone tried the 500 series IGS 2a clone? That one's about a grand and I have read good things. I have and I thought it was excellent but it didn't sound like my LA2A...it sounded more clean whereas my LA2A sounds rich, luscious and big. But still absolutely awesome sounding. I have been lusting for the serpent audio stuff for a while now. I sold my WA76 to buy the Splice but just haven't done it yet! I've been thinking the same thing, sell the WA76 and buy the Splice. Or keep the WA76 as well, I'm just not sure yet. I think tonycamphd and drbill both have experience with the Splice. I hope they're willing to share their current impressions about it.
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Post by ericn on Jul 3, 2015 12:25:40 GMT -6
I have and I thought it was excellent but it didn't sound like my LA2A...it sounded more clean whereas my LA2A sounds rich, luscious and big. But still absolutely awesome sounding. I have been lusting for the serpent audio stuff for a while now. I sold my WA76 to buy the Splice but just haven't done it yet! I've been thinking the same thing, sell the WA76 and buy the Splice. Or keep the WA76 as well, I'm just not sure yet. I think tonycamphd and drbill both have experience with the Splice. I hope they're willing to share their current impressions about it. Les Splice is an awesome versital tool 2 sounds in one box, if the versitality is what's important go for it, The Warm is a great Comp at an awesome price and at some point Ill have a rack full of them! I wouldn't sell a WA76 till I had a splice or 2 in my hands once you have a Splice you can judge your needs!
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Post by drbill on Jul 3, 2015 12:36:53 GMT -6
I have and I thought it was excellent but it didn't sound like my LA2A...it sounded more clean whereas my LA2A sounds rich, luscious and big. But still absolutely awesome sounding. I have been lusting for the serpent audio stuff for a while now. I sold my WA76 to buy the Splice but just haven't done it yet! I've been thinking the same thing, sell the WA76 and buy the Splice. Or keep the WA76 as well, I'm just not sure yet. I think tonycamphd and drbill both have experience with the Splice. I hope they're willing to share their current impressions about it. I absolutely LOVE the splice. I have 2 of the original 500 versions. The new 2RU ones have more features. And they are more expensive, but IMO well worth it. The A vs D options are killer and unique, and although I have not used the warms, it's obvious they don't compare feature wise and I'd be willing to bet sound wise as everything I've heard about them says they have a cleanish sound, and the Splice can get down and dirty - OR clean. The whole "splice" concept is very cool. Mike is THE MAN when it comes to vintage cloned compressors IMO. Hard to do better or be priced more competitively. If you can find something more inexpensively, it's because corners have been cut or it's made in China or both.
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Post by LesC on Jul 3, 2015 12:45:13 GMT -6
I've been thinking the same thing, sell the WA76 and buy the Splice. Or keep the WA76 as well, I'm just not sure yet. I think tonycamphd and drbill both have experience with the Splice. I hope they're willing to share their current impressions about it. Les Splice is an awesome versital tool 2 sounds in one box, if the versitality is what's important go for it, The Warm is a great Comp at an awesome price and at some point Ill have a rack full of them! I wouldn't sell a WA76 till I had a splice or 2 in my hands once you have a Splice you can judge your needs! Thank you Eric, that seems like a good idea. Versatility is not really a big bonus for me, I like to find the one or two things that a piece of equipment does best, and set-and-forget as much as possible. I have too little time to make music as it is. It's not only the 2 sounds that's pulling me to the Splice, but also the built-in linking, parallel compression, sidechain filter, and 2:1 ratio. Plus the lack of the WA76's radio buttons, I had problems trying to get them to latch in a unit that I had previously. I LOVE the WA76 on bass following the Heritage DMA73 DI, so I might keep it just for that. If you match up similar settings on the Splice and the WA76, would you say the sound of one is superior to the other, or just a bit different?
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Post by LesC on Jul 3, 2015 12:53:27 GMT -6
I've been thinking the same thing, sell the WA76 and buy the Splice. Or keep the WA76 as well, I'm just not sure yet. I think tonycamphd and drbill both have experience with the Splice. I hope they're willing to share their current impressions about it. I absolutely LOVE the splice. I have 2 of the original 500 versions. The new 2RU ones have more features. And they are more expensive, but IMO well worth it. The A vs D options are killer and unique, and although I have not used the warms, it's obvious they don't compare feature wise and I'd be willing to bet sound wise as everything I've heard about them says they have a cleanish sound, and the Splice can get down and dirty - OR clean. The whole "splice" concept is very cool. Mike is THE MAN when it comes to vintage cloned compressors IMO. Hard to do better or be priced more competitively. If you can find something more inexpensively, it's because corners have been cut or it's made in China or both. Thank you good doctor, this is the sort of experience I wanted to hear about.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 3, 2015 12:57:57 GMT -6
Les Splice is an awesome versital tool 2 sounds in one box, if the versitality is what's important go for it, The Warm is a great Comp at an awesome price and at some point Ill have a rack full of them! I wouldn't sell a WA76 till I had a splice or 2 in my hands once you have a Splice you can judge your needs! Thank you Eric, that seems like a good idea. Versatility is not really a big bonus for me, I like to find the one or two things that a piece of equipment does best, and set-and-forget as much as possible. I have too little time to make music as it is. It's not only the 2 sounds that's pulling me to the Splice, but also the built-in linking, parallel compression, sidechain filter, and 2:1 ratio. Plus the lack of the WA76's radio buttons, I had problems trying to get them to latch in a unit that I had previously. I LOVE the WA76 on bass following the Heritage DMA73 DI, so I might keep it just for that. If you match up similar settings on the Splice and the WA76, would you say the sound of one is superior to the other, or just a bit different? I don't have a splice, so I can't speak from much hands on time, i can tell you a big part of the sound of the originals came from the FET behavior, the Splices have NOS high hfe Fets in them, mike bought up ALL the nos he could find and uses them in these, if i had it all over again, i'd forgo all this effort to make my hairballs up to splice standards, because even with my best efforts i won't have int/ext side chain/filter, blend and a revA AND D in the same unit, Mike is a badass designer! btw, dandeurloo knows a lot about this!
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Post by LesC on Jul 3, 2015 13:31:30 GMT -6
Thank you Eric, that seems like a good idea. Versatility is not really a big bonus for me, I like to find the one or two things that a piece of equipment does best, and set-and-forget as much as possible. I have too little time to make music as it is. It's not only the 2 sounds that's pulling me to the Splice, but also the built-in linking, parallel compression, sidechain filter, and 2:1 ratio. Plus the lack of the WA76's radio buttons, I had problems trying to get them to latch in a unit that I had previously. I LOVE the WA76 on bass following the Heritage DMA73 DI, so I might keep it just for that. If you match up similar settings on the Splice and the WA76, would you say the sound of one is superior to the other, or just a bit different? I don't have a splice, so I can't speak from much hands on time, i can tell you a big part of the sound of the originals came from the FET behavior, the Splices have NOS high hfe Fets in them, mike bought up ALL the nos he could find and uses them in these, if i had it all over again, i'd forgo all this effort to make my hairballs up to splice standards, because even with my best efforts i won't have int/ext side chain/filter, blend and a revA AND D in the same unit, Mike is a badass designer! Thank you! With 3 guys that I really respect chiming in, it made the decision very easy. Thank you Eric, Bill, and Tony. I've purchased the Splice from ZenPro Audio, Warren has assured me that the unit is in perfect condition, and that "if we didn't tell you it was an open box, you would not know it". So what the heck, it's not available from any Canadian dealer, so I won't get a better price. Of course the Canadian-US exchange rate will be a treat, but we can eat cat food for a few months, I'm sure the wife won't mind.
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