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Post by b1 on Jul 8, 2015 8:47:13 GMT -6
I'm manually tuning with Reaper's ReaTune and triggering Synth "texures" via Guitar with it (experimenting). I looked at the standalone Melodyne before & after it launched. Never bit the bullet to spring for it. Hopefully the cost has decreased.
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Post by levon on Jul 8, 2015 13:10:31 GMT -6
I must be the last holdout who only uses manual tuning instead of auto-tuning. But levon 's assertion about being able to tune one out of tune guitar string is EXTREMELY compelling! It's amazing how Melodyne analyzes chords and you can go into each separate tone. You could change a major chord to a minor chord, and noone would notice. You can also stretch individual notes or shorten them. It's not only a crutch for tuning bad singers (like myself8-)) it's also a great creative tool. BTW, I wouldn't call Melodyne an auto-tune tool, you have to work the material manually, it doesn't do it automatically... |
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Post by LesC on Jul 8, 2015 13:33:49 GMT -6
I must be the last holdout who only uses manual tuning instead of auto-tuning. But levon 's assertion about being able to tune one out of tune guitar string is EXTREMELY compelling! It's amazing how Melodyne analyzes chords and you can go into each separate tone. You could change a major chord to a minor chord, and noone would notice. You can also stretch individual notes or shorten them. It's not only a crutch for tuning bad singers (like myself8-)) it's also a great creative tool. BTW, I wouldn't call Melodyne an auto-tune tool, you have to work the material manually, it doesn't do it automatically... You can sort of auto-tune by selecting the entire vocal and tune all notes to the closest semi-tone or scale note. This usually produces crappy results, and is probably what a lot of people try to do, then give up thinking Melodyne is a piece of crap. If you manually just tune the worst offenders, the results can be excellent. Every once in a while I encounter a note that Melodyne just won't handle, for some reason I can't fathom, it does some funny things to the note that sticks out like a sore thumb. In that situation, I just use the same line from a different take and that fixes the problem. I used to use Melodyne standalone, and still do when I'm trying to create good-sounding harmonies, but the VST within Cubase is really great for quickly fixing occasional errant notes. |
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Post by btreim on Jul 9, 2015 14:12:06 GMT -6
One of the really fantastic things about Melodyne is that you can preserve the pitch glide into the note. So even if you have to tune something drastically, you won't get the AT (TPain, Billy Joel) effect and it will still feel natural. It can produce some harsh artifacts if you do any pitch/time edits on non-pitch related material (breaths, S's, T's) but the work around for that is to just to do your edits normally and then go back and reset the editing parameters on all of the offending sections as a last step. I can go into more detail on that if anyone is having that issue
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Post by svart on Jul 9, 2015 14:22:38 GMT -6
It definitely can crash on a session where it's running via Rewire. I think the problem is usually a sync issue. Anyone else running it 32 bit, VST? I'm using it via VST. I'll try it via rewire just to see what happens. When it does crash, windows error logs show it's an error in the melodyne.dll driver, although I don't recall what the dump says exactly. I haven't tried it in standalone mode yet either. I suppose I should learn how to use it like that. Also, I've noticed that it can't handle more than 2-3 tempo changes in a song before it simply stops responding to the change. I'll frequently have up to 4-5 tempo changes and melodyne will be able to handle about 3 before it simply stays at whatever the last one is. Because of this, I have to save presets for each song in the project and switch back and forth as I move through the songs during mixdown and such. When I switch presets in melodyne, it takes a random amount of time for the preset to load, which during that time the DAW is completely locked up. sometimes it takes a second or two, sometimes 5 minutes. Seems pretty random regardless of project length, CPU/RAM usage, etc. Also, if a track has another plugin on it, melodyne will randomly enable that effect after a tempo change if melodyne is after the effect in the chain, but only if it plays through two consecutive tempo changes. If I play through one, it won't do it, and if I disable melodyne it doesn't do it. I've never had any kind of problems like this with any plugin, including free ones. If this didn't work as well as it does (when it's not crashing), then I would have moved to something else already. |
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Post by winetree on Jul 9, 2015 14:23:28 GMT -6
just caught this thread.
Who ever said Taylor Swift could sing?
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Post by levon on Jul 10, 2015 1:47:37 GMT -6
One of the really fantastic things about Melodyne is that you can preserve the pitch glide into the note. So even if you have to tune something drastically, you won't get the AT (TPain, Billy Joel) effect and it will still feel natural. It can produce some harsh artifacts if you do any pitch/time edits on non-pitch related material (breaths, S's, T's) but the work around for that is to just to do your edits normally and then go back and reset the editing parameters on all of the offending sections as a last step. I can go into more detail on that if anyone is having that issue I had to repair a guitar note that bent up but ended a bit flat. I just pushed it to the right note and the bend/glide from the previous note was still there, it just ended at the right note. It sounded as if I could actually play guitar  |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 10, 2015 8:19:40 GMT -6
svart isn't ur computer a windows pc circa 1998?  Maybe it's time to step up to a Mac?  Sorry couldn't resist..:
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Post by svart on Jul 10, 2015 9:53:07 GMT -6
svart isn't ur computer a windows pc circa 1998? Maybe it's time to step up to a Mac? Sorry couldn't resist..: LOL, nah, that one is sitting in a closet as my backup now. This is a new one built within the last year. And jokes aside, even mac users are complaining about the crashes with melodyne.. Although it worked without crashing for 4 hours last night, which is a personal best. I saved the presets and the project before/after every change in melodyne, and only once did it pause for a couple minutes, but didn't crash. |
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Maybe it's time to step up to a Mac? 