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Post by Randge on Jan 21, 2015 14:46:43 GMT -6
I will be updating my site as soon as I get some of my own new music finished! There aren't even any beard pics on there yet!
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Post by sistercities on Jan 21, 2015 14:51:08 GMT -6
I can see the great benifit of PTHD in the past. Before computers got so powerful, it was a must to have the strength of HD. Now with a Mac Mini, I can run 50+ track sessions with dsp all over it with not even a hiccup. And that's at 88.2. Never came close to a ceiling at 44.1. I think I said it earlier in the thread but the big obatical for PT is the exuberant price. 12k for a platform? Seriously?? Native is so powerful these days. No one "needs" HD to take up any slack. They may want HD but it isn't a must. And if sub 2 millisecond latency isn't enough for non HD users, then monitor analog. Zero latency. All that said, there is a great gulf between HD and vanilla. The native PT's is what I don't like. First of all, the software was never designed to work with third party. They threw that on much later to turn a few extra bucks. And it shows because it is very unstable in my experience. HD is not unstable, rock solid because it was designed right for certain hardware. Anytime you see me grip about PT it is from a Native standpoint. Cubase lapped PT years ago for Native daws. This is not an opinion of mine but an observable fact. Go down the list ticking off the features of each and anyone can see. Now as far as real eastate or eye candy goes? Well that's a matter of taste. Personally, I think Cubase bites ass visually. It's ugly, but I don't care. I don't look at music when it's done, I listen to it. And my time is worth more to me than anything else in this world, so I use it. Peace be unto all my Avid friends, I mean that from the bottom part of my heart. Love, Cowboy --- hey cowboy, sorry if this is OT, but which mac mini are you using? thanks |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 21, 2015 14:59:45 GMT -6
I'm using an i7 2012 Mac mini with 16gb of ram. Rock solid.
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Post by drbill on Jan 21, 2015 15:05:15 GMT -6
I can see the great benifit of PTHD in the past. Before computers got so powerful, it was a must to have the strength of HD. Now with a Mac Mini, I can run 50+ track sessions with dsp all over it with not even a hiccup. And that's at 88.2. Never came close to a ceiling at 44.1. I think I said it earlier in the thread but the big obatical for PT is the exuberant price. 12k for a platform? Seriously?? Native is so powerful these days. No one "needs" HD to take up any slack. They may want HD but it isn't a must. And if sub 2 millisecond latency isn't enough for non HD users, then monitor analog. Zero latency. All that said, there is a great gulf between HD and vanilla. The native PT's is what I don't like. First of all, the software was never designed to work with third party. They threw that on much later to turn a few extra bucks. And it shows because it is very unstable in my experience. HD is not unstable, rock solid because it was designed right for certain hardware. Anytime you see me grip about PT it is from a Native standpoint. Cubase lapped PT years ago for Native daws. This is not an opinion of mine but an observable fact. Go down the list ticking off the features of each and anyone can see. Now as far as real eastate or eye candy goes? Well that's a matter of taste. Personally, I think Cubase bites ass visually. It's ugly, but I don't care. I don't look at music when it's done, I listen to it. And my time is worth more to me than anything else in this world, so I use it. Peace be unto all my Avid friends, I mean that from the bottom part of my heart. Love, Cowboy I agree with you about all these issues Cowboy. The top 3 reasons I use PT and not Cubase or any other DAW : 1. My clients demanded it. ($$$) 2. I can rely that every pro studio anywhere in the world I go into will have it. (Less hassle, less worries, know the system instantly and I can get to work) 3. I like it's workflow. (Personal comfort) Of note, I've been on a DSP based system since computers could load audio, so all my comments come from a NON-native background. Personally, I could care less about "features" that I don't use or whether I've been lapped or anything else. I can work faster, more smoothly, and be 100% compatible with the people I need to be compatible with. No reason for me to change unless PT ceases to exist or AVID becomes even MORE obnoxious than they already are. :-) Even if it means a couple hundred more a year, I'm in. For some, $100 is a deal killer, for others $10k+ is just another business expenditure. With a mic collection like you have, I'm sure you get that. There is no conspiracy. There are reasons PT is the defacto standard. At least this year.... |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 21, 2015 15:16:28 GMT -6
I have a very long list of products I endorse and it would look ridicules in my avatar, so I mention it when I feel that it is appropriate and never would hide the fact that I use said products. I totally realize that you aren't pointing me out, Tony, just wanted to make that clear. The list is on my website at randykohrs.com/endorsement/ for companies that I am an endorser of. Now that the site is functioning correctly for everyone, please stop by! R Site's working here now. Thanks man. Looks good....other than the lack of beard.  Edit: This list is current? No RTZ, Ingram, Radial, Miktek or anyone else? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 21, 2015 15:39:08 GMT -6
Just so its said, personally i have no issue with any of the comments here. I feel that people talk genuinely about their likes and dislikes and most importantly substantiate their comments ! To me, that's key, tell us why you think the way you do about product x: that's informative and all good as far as I am concerned !
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Post by RicFoxx on Jan 21, 2015 16:13:16 GMT -6
Randge not that it matters and Im not trying to stir the pot but I thought I read in another thread that you represent Steinberg or sponsored or something. Also, I don't think Cubase, Logic or any other DAW is amateurish...usually it's the operator that makes it amateurish! I am endorsed by Steinberg as a user only and I am under no obligations to sell it for them and am in no way involved with stock in the company either. I just really like it and want people to know how killer it is and at least really give it a try without immediately dismissing it. I have used PT's a lot in many studios in many different situations, so I am coming from a pretty informed viewpoint. R Cool Randge...by the way I always appreciate your input on this board! |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 21, 2015 16:34:38 GMT -6
--- hey cowboy, sorry if this is OT, but which mac mini are you using? thanks Hi sistercitiesWelcome to RGO. I had to go look cause I wasn't sure, it's a 2.3 ghrtz I 7 w/ 8 gigs of memory. Pretty lowly by todays standards I guess. I think it's a couple years old. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 21, 2015 16:37:08 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 21, 2015 16:43:23 GMT -6
Hi sistercitiesWelcome to RGO. I had to go look cause I wasn't sure, it's a 2.3 ghrtz I 7 w/ 8 gigs of memory. Pretty lowly by todays standards I guess. I think it's a couple years old. that's still a quad core chip with turbo boost i think so not so slack ! |
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Post by Randge on Jan 21, 2015 18:50:05 GMT -6
I have a very long list of products I endorse and it would look ridicules in my avatar, so I mention it when I feel that it is appropriate and never would hide the fact that I use said products. I totally realize that you aren't pointing me out, Tony, just wanted to make that clear. The list is on my website at randykohrs.com/endorsement/ for companies that I am an endorser of. Now that the site is functioning correctly for everyone, please stop by! R Site's working here now. Thanks man. Looks good....other than the lack of beard. Edit: This list is current? No RTZ, Ingram, Radial, Miktek or anyone else? The site is very outdated, but with most of those products that you have mentioned, I have purchased outright and am not on an endorsement with. I have also traded my likeness and a truthful opinion on record in video for them in return for products. Maybe tmi, but I hope that clears things up. I also will not endorse products that I don't fully believe in. Those that have not worked for me personally, I usually find someone who they would benefit a great deal and make the company aware of them for endorsement. R |
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Post by mobeach on Jan 21, 2015 19:06:38 GMT -6
I'm using an i7 2012 Mac mini with 16gb of ram. Rock solid. I think an i7 alone is worth more than my whole PC. But I have a very good i3  |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 22, 2015 14:03:54 GMT -6
They lost practically EVERYONE, but that's because they are now outsourcing all the heavy lifting to the USSR and have no need for US designers. If the old guys that left get Steinberg up and running like PT, let us know. We may want to jump on board. Piecing together information from some of my old Bay Area friends who know people at Avid, the personnel who Avid laid off or left were almost all management and not the folks actually writing code. A lot of the Opcode team moved next door to digidesign a decade ago and still work there. Avid did do a massive one-time outsourcing for creating AAX-DSP versions of their TDM plug-ins. According to one of the Avid blogs, Sibelius and Media composer now share their code with Pro Tools 11 so I suspect a lot of engineering work got consolidated to California. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 22, 2015 14:16:33 GMT -6
I don't think a lot of people understand why people use Pro Tools. In a nutshell, you can walk into any commercial studio, sit down and get right to work.
Pro Tools was the first DAW that could be locked to a multitrack or video that was cheap enough to put on a credit card. A lot of us learned it and nothing enough better has come along to replace it. What it has never been is a MIDI sequencer and there have always been better choices if that's what you are looking for.
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Post by sistercities on Jan 22, 2015 18:30:37 GMT -6
Hi sistercitiesWelcome to RGO. I had to go look cause I wasn't sure, it's a 2.3 ghrtz I 7 w/ 8 gigs of memory. Pretty lowly by todays standards I guess. I think it's a couple years old. hey cowboy, thank you, much appreciated. i've got a 2.3 GHz i7 2011 macbook pro, but have fan issues with it all the time, so am keepin' my eyes open. |
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