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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2024 14:10:10 GMT -6
Hadn’t thought about these in a while…and haven’t tried one in years and years. What’s the take on them these days?
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Post by notneeson on Sept 5, 2024 14:14:07 GMT -6
The tube SDC mics are really good on OHs. (P28) No other experience though.
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Post by nick8801 on Sept 5, 2024 14:27:12 GMT -6
The 414 has peaked my interest in recent years, but there’s a lot more competition in that market these days.
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Post by teejay on Sept 5, 2024 14:32:55 GMT -6
I owned the 22 251 and the 2247LE with American Red Tube (original SE). My first “real” mics. Found both to be a bit harsh in the upper frequencies. Never made a good recording with either one, and tried for a long time. May have partly been my inexperience at the time. Sold them both.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2024 14:36:33 GMT -6
That’s what I’m wondering…if it was ME that was the problem lol. But I wouldn’t doubt the harsh thing to be true…
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Post by guitfiddler on Sept 5, 2024 15:39:24 GMT -6
I had the 2251’s on drum overs, and a 47LE short body with the steel black vacuum tube that sounded very good in the mix on a vocal! It has been a while and I sold them off. I wish I still had them.
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 5, 2024 16:45:08 GMT -6
For the past several years, it's felt to me like Peluso's (the company's) greatest impact has been showing a proof-of-concept to other builders that it's possible to make modern microphones that rival mics from the classic era. They were a pioneer. I've never heard a Peluso-branded mic that I thought rivaled the big boys, but it seems like Peluso inspired a bunch of others to take the concept further than they were able to do.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2024 16:47:42 GMT -6
For the past several years, it's felt to me like Peluso's (the company's) greatest impact has been showing a proof-of-concept to other builders that it's possible to make modern microphones that rival mics from the classic era. They were a pioneer. I've never heard a Peluso-branded mic that I thought rivaled the big boys, but it seems like Peluso inspired a bunch of others to take the concept further than they were able to do. Yeah…I just kinda wondered if the issue was always the capsule…not to be a jerk. I shouldn’t say that because I haven’t heard one in years. I remember thinking they sounded like say - a Neumann TLM49…Hi Fi ish. |
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Post by dougwendal on Sept 5, 2024 16:49:40 GMT -6
The R14 is decent on guitar cabs.
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 5, 2024 16:49:41 GMT -6
For the past several years, it's felt to me like Peluso's (the company's) greatest impact has been showing a proof-of-concept to other builders that it's possible to make modern microphones that rival mics from the classic era. They were a pioneer. I've never heard a Peluso-branded mic that I thought rivaled the big boys, but it seems like Peluso inspired a bunch of others to take the concept further than they were able to do. Yeah…I just kinda wondered if the issue was always the capsule…not to be a jerk. I shouldn’t say that because I haven’t heard one in years. I remember thinking they sounded like say - a Neumann TLM49…Hi Fi ish. yeah, totally agreed. I always assumed it was the capsule holding them back. Which is, you know, kind of a big deal...  |
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Post by ragan on Sept 5, 2024 17:13:58 GMT -6
I think they’re more or less equivalent to other builders doing pretty good mics built overseas. Like Stellar, Advanced Audio, ADK, etc. Now we have more dolled up, stylized versions like Warm and GAP. I think of all of these as really decent mics that you can make good recordings with. Of that paradigm, I kinda like ADK the best. Or just go straight to the source and get 3U for cheaper.
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Post by mcirish on Sept 5, 2024 18:05:51 GMT -6
From my understanding, they are charging a premium for standard inexpensive Chinese capsules. There was a lot of discussion on the Group DIY forums. I think they were one of the earliest builders in the "less expensive" vintage knockoffs game. I never had much interest. I'd rather just build my own with better parts for less. I'm sure others have found good uses for them, so they do have their place. I just never thought they sounded anything like the mics they are trying to emulate. A side terminated K67 is not going to sound like a CK12.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2024 18:48:03 GMT -6
I thought he was one of the first capsule builder guys?
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Post by ericn on Sept 5, 2024 19:00:11 GMT -6
For the past several years, it's felt to me like Peluso's (the company's) greatest impact has been showing a proof-of-concept to other builders that it's possible to make modern microphones that rival mics from the classic era. They were a pioneer. I've never heard a Peluso-branded mic that I thought rivaled the big boys, but it seems like Peluso inspired a bunch of others to take the concept further than they were able to do. Yeah…I just kinda wondered if the issue was always the capsule…not to be a jerk. I shouldn’t say that because I haven’t heard one in years. I remember thinking they sounded like say - a Neumann TLM49…Hi Fi ish. I have said it before and I’ll say it again in my best James Carnell voice “ it’s the capsule stupid “😁 |
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Post by bossanova on Sept 5, 2024 19:04:21 GMT -6
When I started learning about the clone mic options and tiers, I got the impression that Peluso was the hot flavor for a while, then Advance Audio, then Warm, with 3U somewhere in there.
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 5, 2024 19:33:52 GMT -6
From what I understand he makes the best km84 clone out there by far, never actually tried them
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2024 19:35:26 GMT -6
Yeah…I just kinda wondered if the issue was always the capsule…not to be a jerk. I shouldn’t say that because I haven’t heard one in years. I remember thinking they sounded like say - a Neumann TLM49…Hi Fi ish. I have said it before and I’ll say it again in my best James Carnell voice “ it’s the capsule stupid “😁 Oof…James Carville. I just shivered. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2024 19:35:47 GMT -6
From what I understand he makes the best km84 clone out there by far, never actually tried them Well. Well. Well. |
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Post by teejay on Sept 5, 2024 19:57:00 GMT -6
I thought he was one of the first capsule builder guys? My understanding is the parts are manufactured to his specs in China and he does the assembly and sputtering. Pearlman used Peluso capsules in some of their early mics. |
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Post by ericn on Sept 5, 2024 20:01:43 GMT -6
I have said it before and I’ll say it again in my best James Carnell voice “ it’s the capsule stupid “😁 Oof…James Carville. I just shivered. Yeah but even with the no politics policy it fits.😁 |
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Post by recordingengineer on Sept 5, 2024 20:21:39 GMT -6
From what I understand he makes the best km84 clone out there by far, never actually tried them Seeing so much talk on the km84, everyone so wishing Neumann would just do a reissue (with it being so simple for them), and various attempts of clones over the years, all-over forums, this is the first time I’m hearing that. Never tried any Peluso though. QYes, bunch of talk of Peluso over at GroupDIY lately. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2024 20:43:56 GMT -6
Oof…James Carville. I just shivered. Yeah but even with the no politics policy it fits.😁 Yeah - I was completely just talking about him being creepy in a non political way. |
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Post by drumsound on Sept 5, 2024 21:21:55 GMT -6
I've used 3 mics with Peluso capsules, 2 of his and an early Pearlman (see below). NONE of them could deal will with loud singers. I did seminar project once and one of the participants brought a Soundelux E47, and the singer from the band had a Peluso 47. We had them right next to one another and on softer passages they sounded pretty similar. Once he started laying in, there was NO SIMILARITIES. One sounded brilliant and one was the Peluso. The other was a P12, similar thing, decent with lower volume singing, bad with loud. The P12 did sound good over the drumset. I thought he was one of the first capsule builder guys? My understanding is the parts are manufactured to his specs in China and he does the assembly and sputtering. Pearlman used Peluso capsules in some of their early mics. I bought an early Perlman TM1 (silver, 2 digit serial number, metal Telefunken tube, Peluso Capsule) it was bright as shit and really hard to place in a mix. It really didn't do what I was hoping for it to do. It may or may not have been Ozzy's and that was cool, but... I sold if for more than I paid, and sold the spare tube seprately and bought my CMV563 from the Russian guy that was selling on dBay back then and it's exactly what I really wanted. |
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Post by ericn on Sept 5, 2024 21:48:06 GMT -6
Yeah but even with the no politics policy it fits.😁 Yeah - I was completely just talking about him being creepy in a non political way. I get it my wife finds my James Carnell impression hilariously accurate and of course for those that don’t know yes I am RGO’s token true WI token progressive liberal, yet JK Ward, Svart are close friends go figure! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 6, 2024 0:02:29 GMT -6
OK…I gotta see your Tim Walz…
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