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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2024 9:16:13 GMT -6
I know opinions are like...well...you get my drift. Just didn't know if there was one accepted "this is the shit" one. I've got the UAD one...maybe SSL? I probably do just haven't downloaded it.
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Post by Dan on Jul 29, 2024 9:21:31 GMT -6
Cytomic The Glue by far. Use 16x oversampling. SSL Native isn't really an SSL bus compressor; it's a port of the C200 digital compressor. UAD is good but muddy next to Cytomic. PSP Busspressor is also cool for the adjustable auto-release but sounds smeary and murky. Powair Adaptive Glue preset tweaked sounds good but is pumpier than a real SSL bus on quieter content and silence. That leveler can go wrong. Sonnox Oxford Limiter can be set to be an SSL Bus on crack. Slowest attack, Release about 100, auto gain on, auto comp off, safe mode off, dither off, Knee set almost to softest to not be a total brickwall, turn up enhance a little bit to take off some of the overshoots.
MJUC mk3 mode is almost like an SSL meets a Manley.
Honestly, I just tweak Molot GE (combine Radiate and Siberian Sunset presets and tweak on insane mode) or use MDWDRC or Kotelnikov. |
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Post by doubledog on Jul 29, 2024 9:36:05 GMT -6
I like the one that is part of Slate Digital's VBC (edit - I guess it's actually a 4K style comp - I still like it - I use the 1.5:1 setting and just barely get the needle moving)
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Post by Mister Chase on Jul 29, 2024 9:42:56 GMT -6
Folks seem to like the PA Townhouse. I use a variety. I got my Audioscape Bus comp for like 600 bucks. Considering plugin cost, it wasn't crazy. I use the SSL Bus Comp 2 plugin a fair amount. The Glue has been killer for many years. They did well with that one.
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Post by sean on Jul 29, 2024 9:43:07 GMT -6
I use the Glue pretty regularly on a mix buss, oversampled. Usually 10ms or 30ms attack with the 100ms or auto release, usually side chain filter around 60Hz. I don’t like much mix buss compression but a couple dB really, well, glues things together. It’s also helpful when pushing solos on really dynamic instruments or even vocals… if I start to ever start to “hear” it working too much I know I need to adjust some things in the mix.
Townhouse is interesting, definitely more “colorful” (The Glue is very transparent) and sometimes I’ll toss it on a drum buss. I also like that there’s a AAX DSP version, so sometimes I’ll use it while tracking on a “drum buss” for listen back and occasionally it’ll stay when it comes to mixing.
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Post by notneeson on Jul 29, 2024 9:56:15 GMT -6
PA Townhouse works, as does the SSL one. Obviously, don't pay full price for well, any plugin these days. I'm back to using my Stam VCA, but not because these plugins were letting me down in any way.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2024 10:44:35 GMT -6
PA Townhouse works, as does the SSL one. Obviously, don't pay full price for well, any plugin these days. I'm back to using my Stam VCA, but not because these plugins were letting me down in any way. As I wait for my 33609 (ish)...I thought about trying another VCA HW one if I could find cheap...but like sean said - I rarely pull more than 1-2 db on mixbus. |
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Post by seawell on Jul 29, 2024 10:48:52 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2024 11:16:44 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2024 11:16:58 GMT -6
I'm gonna hear that Smart and want it, aren't I??
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Post by ericn on Jul 29, 2024 11:23:49 GMT -6
I'm gonna hear that Smart and want it, aren't I?? DUH!😎 |
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Post by seawell on Jul 29, 2024 11:24:49 GMT -6
I'm gonna hear that Smart and want it, aren't I?? It is the best bargain in buss compression I've ever found. It would be worth it at twice the twice in my opinion. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 29, 2024 11:28:45 GMT -6
Just by the Audioscape, patch it in, forget about it, be happy !  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 29, 2024 11:30:36 GMT -6
PA Townhouse works, as does the SSL one. Obviously, don't pay full price for well, any plugin these days. I'm back to using my Stam VCA, but not because these plugins were letting me down in any way. As I wait for my 33609 (ish)...I thought about trying another VCA HW one if I could find cheap...but like sean said - I rarely pull more than 1-2 db on mixbus. Ah, like the one in classified ? |
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Post by basspro on Jul 29, 2024 14:03:30 GMT -6
Man, I've wanted a C1LA for quite a while now and this certainly didn't help, lol. I have a Retro Doublewide that I've been trying to sell to fund this, but no one wants it! |
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Post by copperx on Jul 29, 2024 14:40:56 GMT -6
Obviously, don't pay full price for well, any plugin these days. There are still a couple of plugin companies that don't do sales. DMG Audio is one, and the other I can't recall. Sound Radix, perhaps? |
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Post by copperx on Jul 29, 2024 14:53:00 GMT -6
I'm gonna hear that Smart and want it, aren't I?? Yes. I've done double-blind gain-matched tests with the Wesaudio Dione, Audioscape, Warm (!), and CL1A, and the CL1A is the only one that I tell apart from the others  Its knee is different, like the SSL. The Waves SSL comp this hard knee. And although the Glue has an elegant sound, it doesn't have this knee either because it was modeled after a Gyraf, if I remember correctly. I've posted this before, but I'm the video below a clear demonstration of what I mean. |
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Post by crillemannen on Jul 29, 2024 14:58:31 GMT -6
I really enjoy SSL own buscompressor. Especially at 1.5 ratio, super transparent otherwise I kind of like the old Waves SSL haha. It really doesn't matter, like with the HW it comes down to personal preference. All of the well known plugins do the SSL thingy fairly well
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2024 15:49:34 GMT -6
I actually couldn't really tell much difference in Seawell's video. Or one didn't really stand out or anything.
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Post by ericn on Jul 29, 2024 15:56:29 GMT -6
I actually couldn't really tell much difference in Seawell's video. Or one didn't really stand out or anything. No offense to Seawell who does an excellent job, but to really tell the subtle difference between buss comps you really need to have it in front of twist the knobs and hear the very small differences. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2024 17:22:08 GMT -6
I actually couldn't really tell much difference in Seawell's video. Or one didn't really stand out or anything. No offense to Seawell who does an excellent job, but to really tell the subtle difference between buss comps you really need to have it in front of twist the knobs and hear the very small differences. Right...sometimes it's kind've about the feel - thump in the chest and taking off transients... |
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Post by bluesholyman on Jul 29, 2024 19:14:17 GMT -6
I actually couldn't really tell much difference in Seawell's video. Or one didn't really stand out or anything. I was hard pressed to hear much difference, but the phrase "right all the reasons we make you look down" (??) stood out to me on a couple of them. What I heard: - The CL1 sounds most similar to the Townsend - Townsend had a bit more clarity in the vocal than the CL1 - The Cytonic seemed the most clear/crisp of them all - The Townsend sounded a hair fuller/richer/warmer than the Cytonic. I am not even sure I heard something rather than felt a difference (as much as is possible on a youtube video) then just listened more closely and convinced myself something was different. I still think I "noticed" very slight differences. |
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Post by mike on Jul 29, 2024 19:17:59 GMT -6
Obviously, don't pay full price for well, any plugin these days. There are still a couple of plugin companies that don't do sales. DMG Audio is one, and the other I can't recall. Sound Radix, perhaps? Unless it's changed, I think Cytomic The Glue never goes on sale either. Thought the demo sounded good, but could never pull the trigger on $99 when other options at lower cost were plentiful. |
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Post by smashlord on Jul 29, 2024 19:29:45 GMT -6
The Glue is my go ITB. Its the best of the bunch hands down.
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Post by smashlord on Jul 29, 2024 19:34:03 GMT -6
I'm gonna hear that Smart and want it, aren't I?? Yes. I've done double-blind gain-matched tests with the Wesaudio Dione, Audioscape, Warm (!), and CL1A, and the CL1A is the only one that I tell apart from the others Its knee is different, like the SSL. The Waves SSL comp this hard knee. And although the Glue has an elegant sound, it doesn't have this knee either because it was modeled after a Gyraf, if I remember correctly. I've posted this before, but I'm the video below a clear demonstration of what I mean. Wow, the Audioscape kind of misses the mark, huh? SSL just has that thing.... that pillowy snap to the kick. |
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Its knee is different, like the SSL. 
