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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2024 11:12:49 GMT -6
It sounds so good, that I'm thinking about expanding my I/O and using more hardware. IT's a pain in the ass for sure, but there's no denying there's something to it. Just punch and attack...
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2024 11:13:05 GMT -6
Also making me think about a silver bullet.
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Post by seawell on May 7, 2024 11:22:17 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on May 7, 2024 12:18:52 GMT -6
^^This^^ Made me laugh: thx !  |
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Post by drumsound on May 7, 2024 13:11:16 GMT -6
Do you have the 1178 on the mix bus?
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Post by bradd on May 7, 2024 13:56:44 GMT -6
If you're interested in an Apogee Symphony I/O Mark I 8/8, I'll give you a good deal. I've been too busy to get around to selling it. It just got a firmware update at the factory, so it's ready to go with the latest Macs.
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Post by jacobamerritt on May 7, 2024 15:58:44 GMT -6
I feel like all the little marginal 'improvements' using hardware over plugins really add up sonically in the end when tracks start to stack. Or at least make mixing easier.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2024 17:09:21 GMT -6
Do you have the 1178 on the mix bus? No. Drumbus. I've been wanting the Stam 609 mkII for the master...but alas it is only in my mind. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2024 17:10:41 GMT -6
If you're interested in an Apogee Symphony I/O Mark I 8/8, I'll give you a good deal. I've been too busy to get around to selling it. It just got a firmware update at the factory, so it's ready to go with the latest Macs. Oh damn...that's pretty tempting...I'll hit you up on PM... |
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Post by russellcreekps on May 7, 2024 17:28:41 GMT -6
Have you used it at all on acoustic guitar? If so what are your thoughts? Kinda drooling over it for that.. Already got the Dcomp and really liking that on drums.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2024 17:37:27 GMT -6
I played around with it tracking...and it's freaking fantastic. And vocals...it's my new favorite vocal comp.
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Post by notneeson on May 7, 2024 17:52:42 GMT -6
I was (and still am) really happy with the ITB work I was doing, but then when I got my Silver Bullet and setup my little mix room (and started using my Stam VCA on master buss again too) it was like, "Oh yeah, guess I forgot how fun this is." |
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Post by smashlord on May 7, 2024 17:54:11 GMT -6
Haven't had the chance to use the Audioscape, but I have used many of the originals and they do rule on drums. They were my go to on rooms until I got a Compex.
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Post by drbill on May 7, 2024 17:57:02 GMT -6
It sounds so good, that I'm thinking about expanding my I/O and using more hardware. IT's a pain in the ass for sure, but there's no denying there's something to it. Just punch and attack... Also making me think about a silver bullet. Man, what a killer combo that would be. Put Tape*79 or the Fairi-Mu in the C slot, and you would have a killer mix buss. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2024 19:03:21 GMT -6
It sounds so good, that I'm thinking about expanding my I/O and using more hardware. IT's a pain in the ass for sure, but there's no denying there's something to it. Just punch and attack... Also making me think about a silver bullet. Man, what a killer combo that would be. Put Tape*79 or the Fairi-Mu in the C slot, and you would have a killer mix buss. Well I can’t afford a new one lol |
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Post by yotonic on May 7, 2024 19:27:40 GMT -6
I love the UREI 1178 on vocals. I got turned on to it by John Fields after talking to him about his work with Parachute. I run a UREI 1178 into a vintage La2a and it crushes any comp chain I’ve had for vox including a version D 1176. I could never understand why people slept on the 1178 for vocals.
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Post by jacobamerritt on May 7, 2024 22:51:39 GMT -6
I have a Drawmer 1978… amazing stereo FET compressor with a very flexible side chain that’s awesome. Would the AS 1178 be kinda redundant?
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Post by theshea on May 7, 2024 23:13:25 GMT -6
I have a Drawmer 1978… amazing stereo FET compressor with a very flexible side chain that’s awesome. Would the AS 1178 be kinda redundant? had the drawmer 1978 for a long time. used it on the drumbus and even sometimes on the mixbus. the freq, sat and mixknob all add up to a super flexible buscomp. but i sold it because i have to do recalls on my laptop more and more and i can do it in 5 minutes on my couch instead but only if i mix totally ITB. stupid lazy me … i miss the drawmer 1978. |
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Post by thehightenor on May 8, 2024 1:15:07 GMT -6
I have a Drawmer 1978… amazing stereo FET compressor with a very flexible side chain that’s awesome. Would the AS 1178 be kinda redundant? had the drawmer 1978 for a long time. used it on the drumbus and even sometimes on the mixbus. the freq, sat and mixknob all add up to a super flexible buscomp. but i sold it because i have to do recalls on my laptop more and more and i can do it in 5 minutes on my couch instead but only if i mix totally ITB. stupid lazy me … i miss the drawmer 1978. I’ve been asking myself lately if I’m becoming lazy or my motivations have shifted, because having built up 3 racks of boutique tube and solid state hardware I’m not using it anymore when I mix except for some units on the stereo mix bus. I get to the mix stage - I look at all the gear in the racks and I just sigh at the idea of setting it all up and then recalling it as I work on different and projects. It feels a bit old fashioned - which I realise is a ridiculous statement. I bought the 1178 Pulsar plugin and it sounds great to my ears. I know the AS 1178 hardware will sound better, but the fact only I will care and appreciate it here in 2024 has been demotivating for me, and it doesn’t help all my favourite mix engineers now mix ITB I really need to get back to my old “audio enthusiast” self. |
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Post by Quint on May 8, 2024 2:19:30 GMT -6
I have a Drawmer 1978… amazing stereo FET compressor with a very flexible side chain that’s awesome. Would the AS 1178 be kinda redundant? It never occurred to me until this very moment that the Drawmer 1978 might be trying, to one degree or another, to emulate the 1178. Now my curiosity is piqued. |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 8, 2024 3:05:39 GMT -6
“I bought the 1178 Pulsar plugin and it sounds great to my ears.”
Agreed!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 8, 2024 6:18:19 GMT -6
had the drawmer 1978 for a long time. used it on the drumbus and even sometimes on the mixbus. the freq, sat and mixknob all add up to a super flexible buscomp. but i sold it because i have to do recalls on my laptop more and more and i can do it in 5 minutes on my couch instead but only if i mix totally ITB. stupid lazy me … i miss the drawmer 1978. I’ve been asking myself lately if I’m becoming lazy or my motivations have shifted, because having built up 3 racks of boutique tube and solid state hardware I’m not using it anymore when I mix except for some units on the stereo mix bus. I get to the mix stage - I look at all the gear in the racks and I just sigh at the idea of setting it all up and then recalling it as I work on different and projects. It feels a bit old fashioned - which I realise is a ridiculous statement. I bought the 1178 Pulsar plugin and it sounds great to my ears. I know the AS 1178 hardware will sound better, but the fact only I will care and appreciate it here in 2024 has been demotivating for me, and it doesn’t help all my favourite mix engineers now mix ITB I really need to get back to my old “audio enthusiast” self. Now that’s the first time I’ve heard you mentioning HW’s dirty little secret - it’s a pain in the ass. And why I’ve stayed ITB because of all the recall. But I’m going to focus on just using HW for the prominent elements. Maybe just focus on buses. Something like this: Drums - 78 Bass - 124 Acoustic - 78 Master - 33609 and maybe a HW EQ. Keeping up with real would be new for me… |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 8, 2024 6:25:28 GMT -6
I’ll say this - I had never used an 1178 before using the Pulsar plugin when it came out like what - 2 years ago? And it’s my most used plugin. Complete workhorse that works beautifully on literally everything. So I went for this AS 78. And it’s even better. I could use two more of these.
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Post by bgrotto on May 8, 2024 7:40:25 GMT -6
I’ve been asking myself lately if I’m becoming lazy or my motivations have shifted, because having built up 3 racks of boutique tube and solid state hardware I’m not using it anymore when I mix except for some units on the stereo mix bus. I get to the mix stage - I look at all the gear in the racks and I just sigh at the idea of setting it all up and then recalling it as I work on different and projects. It feels a bit old fashioned - which I realise is a ridiculous statement. I bought the 1178 Pulsar plugin and it sounds great to my ears. I know the AS 1178 hardware will sound better, but the fact only I will care and appreciate it here in 2024 has been demotivating for me, and it doesn’t help all my favourite mix engineers now mix ITB I really need to get back to my old “audio enthusiast” self. Now that’s the first time I’ve heard you mentioning HW’s dirty little secret - it’s a pain in the ass. And why I’ve stayed ITB because of all the recall. But I’m going to focus on just using HW for the prominent elements. Maybe just focus on buses. Something like this: Drums - 78 Bass - 124 Acoustic - 78 Master - 33609 and maybe a HW EQ. Keeping up with real would be new for me… Funny thing: I use hw more on channels and less on subgroups, because I can use the “commit to this insert” function in pt to capture the hw, and then my recalls are itb and infinitely repeatable. for mix buss, I use all stepped knob hw for ease of recall (though I sometimes “cheat” by swapping in a plugin with comparable settings if a client needs a quick revision and I am not able to hook up the hw.) |
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Post by jaba on May 8, 2024 7:48:33 GMT -6
Funny thing: I use hw more on channels and less on subgroups, because I can use the “commit to this insert” function in pt to capture the hw, and then my recalls are itb and infinitely repeatable. for mix buss, I use all stepped knob hw for ease of recall (though I sometimes “cheat” by swapping in a plugin with comparable settings if a client needs a quick revision and I am not able to hook up the hw.) This is how I do it - get a mix going using a bit of hardware on key tracks, render those down, throw hardware on the mix buss. I can recall the mix buss HW for recalls in 30 seconds (EQ and compressor). I am considering introducing a second stereo HW chain for a second buss (drums likely, but will keep it flexible). That would also give me a bit more HW to incorporate in the first step. |
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