Explain Avid HDX to me like I’m 5

MTRX is a rebranded DAD AX32 with digilink. DAD is on the AX64 now. If you have like 10000 dollars to blow on converters you can swing for that. Avid doesn't even make their own top end interfaces anymore.

Delay compensation on Logic has never, ever worked. At least not since Apple bought it, no clue before then. Plus... Logic just sometimes freezes for no evident reason and you have to force quit and re-open. 

C'mon... for a "professional" tool? That's just ridiculous.

When Apple Silicon came out, Logic had a chance to capture (or recapture) huge market share cuz they were first to the punch to take advantage of that tech. They should have done a massive new version of Logic to go with Silicon and taken a big bite out of the ProTools market share but nope... instead they rolled out some useless beat making tools that will never be better than Ableton (which they ripped off) and left everything else pretty much the same. 

Six months later all the DAW's were running native on M1 chips and the opportunity passed.

dude i am still dealing with logic's editing issues that are not sample accurate. people comp, edit, fade, and bounce in place and it just doesn't match up compared to pro tools and reaper edits. ableton and fl have issues too but many younger producers are stuck on it and don't know how to use anything else.

I routinely had to slide bounces back a few samples in Logic. Why? I never could figure it out and then one day I decided I didn't care to figure it out.

probably because apple doesn't care to pay the developers (who are still the original guys) to rewrite the whole thing like avid did with the tdm -> hdx transition that le and rtas paved the way for or hire more guys to do it because pro audio is such a limited market for them. there's probably still code from the 80s somewhere in logic and cubase. cubase you still cannot rearrange faders around the mixer and that's definitely antiquated 90s code recompiled for 64-bit.

Apple needs to make enough money..

lets see … they made $97 billion profit last year.

If you handed out $10 all day, you could meet every man, woman, child, baby, senior citizen in all of.. well— all of planet earth, and still be left with $10billion…

Another way to think of it: If you went to Red Rocks, saw a concert.. and they told everyone with a ticket gets $1million.. they still have 85billion left lol


It was a tough quarter last report, stock missed expectations

yeah.

if they’d be the one’s to say Apple Pro Tools-

hobby Producer… $15,000

Pro Producer… $150,000

And offered pay as you go bundle through ATT…

Someone should talk to Mr Cook

(I’m serious.. I’d take a 30 year plan because why not?)
… don’t worry I’m done .. just something I’ve thought about for a few years. People use their home equity as low interest credit, Apple uses your subscription for the same thing

Nonsense.  I didn't spend anywhere close or in the same hemisphere to $60,000 for my AVID HDX system.  Granted, I did buy some used, refurbed, etc., but $500 per channel estimate is ridiculous.

I would expect to be paying around $4500 for a 16 channel HDX system these days.  That's all in - HDX card, interfaces, perpetual, etc..

A new HDX system comes out to almost exactly $500 per channel.

EDIT: Here's a link to the bundles on Sweetwater. I actually undershot it, more like $1000 per channel but that's to get off the ground. Cheaper to expand. If you're looking to get in to HDX or Carbon while buying new and under warranty you're looking at $500 - $1000 channel. Believe me, I want to be wrong. At the very least I wouldn't say my take is "nonsense".


www.sweetwater.com/store/search?s=protools+hdx

Right, neither am I. I buy second hand all the time. 

But my point was that AVID seems to have a really specific margin in mind and a very locked in price per channel. So second hand units don't apply in that case.

The reality from the outside appears to be that AVID is starting at "here's what we need to sell this for" and going backwards versus "here's the market says this is worth" and pricing based off of that. If anything the much lower second hand market only further validates my point.

Yeah, that would definitely explain why they have price points they need to hit regardless of what (I think) the market can bear and what the used market indicates. I mean, if the Carbon was $2k they'd sell thousands of them, starting with me.

I hear you. Discussing Avid as a company is always a headache. The salient point (to me) is that you can get into HDX with older Avid conversion for reasonable money.


Edit: And they have the most turn key, high function rigs in the market. They just do.