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Post by drbill on Feb 9, 2024 20:27:52 GMT -6
Crap. Now I'm getting confused. I looked at my "messages" tab and 30% of my recent messages are from "deleted". Now I'm not sure who I was talking with anymore.... Dan? Shadow? Michael? LOL. Oh well... Maybe people should leave a forwarding email when they decide to flame out with a dramatic exit.....
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Post by bossanova on Feb 9, 2024 20:30:44 GMT -6
He had an answer there originally as well, but it looks like he replaced it with the "I give up" right before he left.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2024 20:42:22 GMT -6
I just hope those who are flaming out are taking care of themselves in the process. In the creative space, I'd argue that we're all a little broken. Some more than others. Sometimes things just get a little overwhelming and you gotta step back, I guess. Making a big dramatic exit is unnecessary, but would the internet be the internet without a little bit of "look at me!" once in a while? That said, I'm ou-- sike. Amen…and that’s why I don’t want them deleting the profile, because it’s gone…and they’re less likely to come back.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2024 20:44:24 GMT -6
He had an answer there originally as well, but it looks like he replaced it with the "I give up" right before he left. It’s so weird. I literally read the one he posted before that and thought it was great and I learned something from it. Wonder if he just felt ignored? Anyway - guess this might not be the place to discuss.
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Post by jmoose on Feb 9, 2024 21:08:11 GMT -6
Was there a dramatic exit post from shadow? The popcorn munching part of me really wants to read it. Or did he just disappear and delete? Shadow put this up about a week ago... Kinda telling. realgearonline.com/thread/16667/end-roadDan split too? Dan drama? When did that happen?
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Post by ericn on Feb 9, 2024 21:23:14 GMT -6
Was there a dramatic exit post from shadow? The popcorn munching part of me really wants to read it. Or did he just disappear and delete? Shadow put this up about a week ago... Kinda telling. realgearonline.com/thread/16667/end-roadDan split too? Dan drama? When did that happen? It’s the internet almost as much drama as any Bravo “ reality “ franchise .
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 9, 2024 21:27:13 GMT -6
Am I crazy in thinking Shadow has done this before? I thought before his incarnation as ShadowK, he was a different username with “Shadow” in the name, then left for a year or two and then came back with the new username. I’m going to miss him - I knew he’d been through a lot the last few years, but it seemed like he’d been in a better place recently.
And John, I don’t think Dan had been around even close to 10 years. I’ve only been here for like six years, and I definitely remember when Dan joined quite a bit later than me. He always had a distinctive angle on things. It just got more and more inflexible in recent months.
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Post by bossanova on Feb 9, 2024 22:55:25 GMT -6
I kind of get it. I’m not the dramatic exit type, but at around this time last year I was completely done with recording music from the time being and posted as much. I still stuck around though, and the time off helped because now I’m working on some ideas again with a clearer, more grounded headspace.
if anyone wants to google Dan’s responses on here, he still shows up in the quoted replies as ToMegaTheiron, which was also his name at the purple place. It’s a bit harder when him and shadow were both in the same threads but at least they both have very different writing styles.
Other search terms include program holds, trashcan, Tupe, megahertz, Drawmer.
I guess he was almost exclusively a modern metal and punk guy? I think I’m like some here where he had some really interesting information on DSP that I hadn’t heard before, but a lot of his application was very different than any style of music I’m involved in.
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 9, 2024 23:29:30 GMT -6
I kind of get it. I’m not the dramatic exit type, but at around this time last year I was completely done with recording music from the time being and posted as much. I still stuck around though, and the time off helped because now I’m working on some ideas again with a clearer, more grounded headspace.
if anyone wants to google Dan’s responses on here, he still shows up in the quoted replies as ToMegaTherion, which was also his name at the purple place. It’s a bit harder when him and shadow were both in the same threads but at least they both have very different writing styles. Other search terms include program holds, trashcan, Tupe, megahertz, Drawmer. I guess he was almost exclusively a modern metal and punk guy? I think I’m like some here where he had some really interesting information on DSP that I hadn’t heard before, but a lot of his application was very different than any style of music I’m involved in. (emphasis mine, obviously...) Dude, can I just take a moment to say congrats on this? It really makes me happy to read this. Sometimes we do have to take a concerted step back for an extended creative break. I'm so glad to hear the ideas are coming again, and I really hope they continue.
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Post by mcirish on Feb 10, 2024 0:21:23 GMT -6
Makes me sad that Dan, Michael and ShadowK are not going to be around anymore. I didn't always agree with some ideas but that's ok. We each hear differently and I respected and valued their input. It's a shame they left in that way. I was on a Zoom with ShadowK and Wiz a while back. I know ShadowK was going through some rough stuff. I guess I hoped that the banter we have here could have been a boost to him instead of another frustration.
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Post by christopher on Feb 10, 2024 0:49:12 GMT -6
I’ve been turning off the computer and simply writing with phone memos and acoustic. It’s been very productive, i have an album of ideas for the first time in forever. A huge tip was a local guy I asked how he wrote his lyrics… he said he doesn’t write them down. Just records on the phone until he knows them. What a concept. I can relate, as soon as I type lyrics, I decide the song is horrible. Not writing them has allowed them to evolve. I hope we all find that productivity that makes it all worth it. And certainly.. what goes into the mic is what matters the most
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Post by theshea on Feb 10, 2024 0:59:41 GMT -6
maybe they are reading the reactions here, maybe not. stop posting, take a break, breathe in breathe out, life goes on. deleting is not necessary IMO. it would be good to still read who said what, „deleted“ is not so good … i always like to read different opinions here from experienced people. most here do have strong opinions and thats ok with me. i will make my own opinion after reading different parts. and thats helped me with recording/mixing. and it comes from people working in the music biz and not just forum blobbers. thats the fun part on this forum. wishing everybody the best.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 10, 2024 1:20:47 GMT -6
I already miss all 3. All quality individuals. Hoping to see them here again, if/whenever possible. I do understand how people might desire a break, even though I'd prefer it's temporary. RGO has been unintentionally "Market Tested" for me. When I've been in Emergency a number of times. shown to be effective in Lowering my (Acute/not usual) high Blood Pressure. (Even reading John Eppstein's posts. LOL!) * Chris *Just teasin' ya John E. Don't go anywhere!
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Post by wiz on Feb 10, 2024 3:25:06 GMT -6
I am renaming my band to this thread title
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Post by chessparov on Feb 10, 2024 3:41:31 GMT -6
My all harmonica band... The Mellow Chromatics could Open.
Let's remember that all Harmonica jokes, started life as Banjo or Accordion jokes. Like a long court trial, everyone is relieved when the case is closed. Chris
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Post by thehightenor on Feb 10, 2024 3:57:23 GMT -6
Shadow K left!
wtf .... crikey.
Gosh I hope he's ok - I thought he was a really lovely guy and very knowledgeable. I'm very sorry he's left - what a shame.
Micheal's leaving I just thought was a bit pompous to be honest, no longer pushing his products "why bother with you lot" (at least that's how it came across to me) - goodbye and good luck.
But Shadow K .... ahhh I'm really disappointed and he was a fellow Brit too.
I'm a happy go lucky guy, easy breezy, not much ruffles my feathers. I'll defend tube hardware 'till the cows come home (sorry Dan) but at the end of the day it's just gear and I don't take any of it too seriously.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 10, 2024 4:38:52 GMT -6
I am renaming my band to this thread title Go big or go home, how bout, the drama queens ?!!
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 10, 2024 5:23:28 GMT -6
This all sucks to hear. I really liked Dan. He helped me out several times with all kinds of stuff. Hope they decide to come back. It’s just an Internet forum. There are times when I don’t post for while, but I always enjoy coming here.
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Post by Shadowk on Feb 10, 2024 11:23:56 GMT -6
Well this was unexpected and certainly not what I foresaw . Firstly I’ll just say, I didn't rage quit (because I'm an adult). It had nothing to do with anyone here, nobody offended me (which is extremely hard to do anyway if you know me) and as I've said multiple times I honestly like you lot. I certainly didn't think at the time a one liner was dramatic in any way shape or form, although sorry, maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all? I was trying to avoid an exit speech or long explanation lol, they don't seem to go down well. Nope sorry everyone, jmoose is the lottery winner here and pretty much hit the nail on the head. I've tried my best but any interest in audio or music has unfortunately completely and utterly died, it's a shame because this part of my life has been with me since I was young. However on Friday when I was supposed to setup my studio again I did the dishes instead and cleaned the kitchen. The worst bit is I didn't think for a second YEAH let's get on with some MUSICC, I thought jeez that room needs dusting . Indifference at this stage doesn't even cover it lol. As I get further away from music I don't believe I've got anything valuable at all to contribute to this site, at this rate I'll barely be able to operate Pro Tools in a year. I have "given up", even the technical side of it doesn't get me anymore. A decade ago I'd happily go into the depths of clocking, converters, circuits, supplies or aliasing, I was into all sorts back then like car engines, game engines, programming, ripping apart audio equipment just to see how it ticked. Nowadays for example I left my Shelford in bits for months, all I needed was a few opamps and to build some leads, couldn't be bothered at all until it came time to sell it then my backside got motivated and in the space of 48 hours I'd repaired it, serviced it etc. My Stam still isn't fixed.. Apologies if this irked anyone, that really wasn't the intent here. Honestly I like to believe I’m a fair, easy going, rational, simple to talk to sorta person. Also, I’m fine.. Absolutely cool, it’s been a more promising year thus far. P.S John, no I certainly don’t think I’m smarter than anyone. In fact I’m getting a bit forgetful unfortunately. I’m also not really bothered if someone listens to me or not, hopefully I help people on occasion and if I do then that makes me happy. There’s nothing more to it. P.P.S After some of the shit I’ve put up with over the last couple of years I’m certainly not “thin skinned” or a bitch. LMAO, it did honestly make me laugh though. P.P.P.S I appreciate you letting me back in to explain. P.P.P.P.S No, I’m a different Dan.. I’ve got a different face and everything. P.P.P.P.P.S The reason to close your forgotten non used accounts is it’s not entirely unfeasible for someone to compromise it, get your email address, find a target, compromise your email, get some pertinent information and take out several phone contracts in your name or take your card for a spin. It’s happened to me, more than once.. Also I paid online at a large music store and got my account cleared out, I work in tech and I still haven't figured out how they did that on an SSL secured site. Too many P.S’s to count, perspective is a funny thing and hindsight is beautiful. John I get where you’re coming from and I always look for both sides of a story. 99% of the people here were cool, one or two though in a polite way pretty much called me a nob whilst acting like a complete nob themselves. I’m always here to help so please reflect on that hypocrisy for a moment if you will. I’m sure that epiphany will serve you (as in the few, not mentioning any names) well in the future. Well that reply was longer than expected and I thought I’d just explain seen as thing thread happened. Please, anyone feel free to keep in touch. If you want me to stick around to discuss other geeky or boring shit like sci-fi shows, cars, DIY, renovations, new technologies etc. then I will, no issues.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 10, 2024 11:28:32 GMT -6
So glad you posted Danny! 99%? What about the other half of us? Thanks, Chris
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Post by lee on Feb 10, 2024 11:38:45 GMT -6
There’s probably not a person among us who hasn’t at some point felt hard done by a life in music. Creative people can be volatile. We all assess the cost/benefit analysis of this life and likely don’t reach the same conclusion at every stage of our career. Or even from week to week. I know how it feels to want to peace out of all of it. Max compassion to those who feel the need to bail.
EDIT: while writing, I see our man has returned!
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Post by skav on Feb 10, 2024 11:53:00 GMT -6
Well this was unexpected and certainly not what I foresaw . Firstly I’ll just say, I didn't rage quit (because I'm an adult). It had nothing to do with anyone here, nobody offended me (which is extremely hard to do anyway if you know me) and as I've said multiple times I honestly like you lot. I certainly didn't think at the time a one liner was dramatic in any way shape or form, although sorry, maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all? I was trying to avoid an exit speech or long explanation lol, they don't seem to go down well. Nope sorry everyone, jmoose is the lottery winner here and pretty much hit the nail on the head. I've tried my best but any interest in audio or music has unfortunately completely and utterly died, it's a shame because this part of my life has been with me since I was young. However on Friday when I was supposed to setup my studio again I did the dishes instead and cleaned the kitchen. The worst bit is I didn't think for a second YEAH let's get on with some MUSICC, I thought jeez that room needs dusting . Indifference at this stage doesn't even cover it lol. As I get further away from music I don't believe I've got anything valuable at all to contribute to this site, at this rate I'll barely be able to operate Pro Tools in a year. I have "given up", even the technical side of it doesn't get me anymore. A decade ago I'd happily go into the depths of clocking, converters, circuits, supplies or aliasing, I was into all sorts back then like car engines, game engines, programming, ripping apart audio equipment just to see how it ticked. Nowadays for example I left my Shelford in bits for months, all I needed was a few opamps and to build some leads, couldn't be bothered at all until it came time to sell it then my backside got motivated and in the space of 48 hours I'd repaired it, serviced it etc. My Stam still isn't fixed.. Apologies if this irked anyone, that really wasn't the intent here. Honestly I like to believe I’m a fair, easy going, rational, simple to talk to sorta person. Also, I’m fine.. Absolutely cool, it’s been a more promising year thus far. P.S John, no I certainly don’t think I’m smarter than anyone. In fact I’m getting a bit forgetful unfortunately. I’m also not really bothered if someone listens to me or not, hopefully I help people on occasion and if I do then that makes me happy. There’s nothing more to it. P.P.S After some of the shit I’ve put up with over the last couple of years I’m certainly not “thin skinned” or a bitch. LMAO, it did honestly make me laugh though. P.P.P.S I appreciate you letting me back in to explain. P.P.P.P.S No, I’m a different Dan.. I’ve got a different face and everything. P.P.P.P.P.S The reason to close your forgotten non used accounts is it’s not entirely unfeasible for someone to compromise it, get your email address, find a target, compromise your email, get some pertinent information and take out several phone contracts in your name or take your card for a spin. It’s happened to me, more than once.. Also I paid online at a large music store and got my account cleared out, I work in tech and I still haven't figured out how they did that on an SSL secured site. Too many P.S’s to count, perspective is a funny thing and hindsight is beautiful. John I get where you’re coming from and I always look for both sides of a story. 99% of the people here were cool, one or two though in a polite way pretty much called me a nob whilst acting like a complete nob themselves. I’m always here to help so please reflect on that hypocrisy for a moment if you will. I’m sure that epiphany will serve you well in the future. Well that reply was longer than expected and I thought I’d just explain seen as thing thread happened. Please, anyone feel free to keep in touch. If you want me to stick around to discuss other geeky or boring shit like sci-fi shows, cars, DIY, renovations, new technologies etc. then I will, no issues. Thank you for explaining. If you're willing, I'd like to hear how you ended up this 'apathetic' to music. If you're able to see a progression etc.. Correlations between other circumstances in life? I know firsthand that these things can change drastically over time.
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 10, 2024 11:55:12 GMT -6
Well this was unexpected and certainly not what I foresaw . [...] Well that reply was longer than expected and I thought I’d just explain seen as thing thread happened. Please, anyone feel free to keep in touch. If you want me to stick around to discuss other geeky or boring shit like sci-fi shows, cars, DIY, renovations, new technologies etc. then I will, no issues. First of all, woohoo! Glad you're "back," Danny! There's always the "Off Topic" subforum, even if it's not heavily populated? Secondly, thanks so much for sharing what's been going through your mind lately. I hope this thread demonstrated that we care about you and hope you're doing well. Re: waning interest in music: I'll just speak for myself here when I say that it happens sometimes. I'm the kind of person (like many of us, I'm sure) who at various times in my life would forgo food for music if necessary - that's how strong the pull can be. So I was completely shocked when about 18 years ago I lost a lot of interest in music when I was going through a divorce. I was actually pretty depressed at the time, and one of the signs of depression is anhedonia - difficulty feeling pleasure in much of anything. Things that usually bring pleasure simply don't anymore. And I went months without picking up a guitar or playing piano or singing or anything. Eventually that all subsided, of course, but it was a long journey. Obviously not saying that's what's happening for you, Danny, just saying I understand the waxing/waning nature of this stuff sometimes. I do hope you're well, and I hope you hang around. I appreciate your voice here.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2024 12:00:20 GMT -6
Well this was unexpected and certainly not what I foresaw . Firstly I’ll just say, I didn't rage quit (because I'm an adult). It had nothing to do with anyone here, nobody offended me (which is extremely hard to do anyway if you know me) and as I've said multiple times I honestly like you lot. I certainly didn't think at the time a one liner was dramatic in any way shape or form, although sorry, maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all? I was trying to avoid an exit speech or long explanation lol, they don't seem to go down well. Nope sorry everyone, jmoose is the lottery winner here and pretty much hit the nail on the head. I've tried my best but any interest in audio or music has unfortunately completely and utterly died, it's a shame because this part of my life has been with me since I was young. However on Friday when I was supposed to setup my studio again I did the dishes instead and cleaned the kitchen. The worst bit is I didn't think for a second YEAH let's get on with some MUSICC, I thought jeez that room needs dusting . Indifference at this stage doesn't even cover it lol. As I get further away from music I don't believe I've got anything valuable at all to contribute to this site, at this rate I'll barely be able to operate Pro Tools in a year. I have "given up", even the technical side of it doesn't get me anymore. A decade ago I'd happily go into the depths of clocking, converters, circuits, supplies or aliasing, I was into all sorts back then like car engines, game engines, programming, ripping apart audio equipment just to see how it ticked. Nowadays for example I left my Shelford in bits for months, all I needed was a few opamps and to build some leads, couldn't be bothered at all until it came time to sell it then my backside got motivated and in the space of 48 hours I'd repaired it, serviced it etc. My Stam still isn't fixed.. Apologies if this irked anyone, that really wasn't the intent here. Honestly I like to believe I’m a fair, easy going, rational, simple to talk to sorta person. Also, I’m fine.. Absolutely cool, it’s been a more promising year thus far. P.S John, no I certainly don’t think I’m smarter than anyone. In fact I’m getting a bit forgetful unfortunately. I’m also not really bothered if someone listens to me or not, hopefully I help people on occasion and if I do then that makes me happy. There’s nothing more to it. P.P.S After some of the shit I’ve put up with over the last couple of years I’m certainly not “thin skinned” or a bitch. LMAO, it did honestly make me laugh though. P.P.P.S I appreciate you letting me back in to explain. P.P.P.P.S No, I’m a different Dan.. I’ve got a different face and everything. P.P.P.P.P.S The reason to close your forgotten non used accounts is it’s not entirely unfeasible for someone to compromise it, get your email address, find a target, compromise your email, get some pertinent information and take out several phone contracts in your name or take your card for a spin. It’s happened to me, more than once.. Also I paid online at a large music store and got my account cleared out, I work in tech and I still haven't figured out how they did that on an SSL secured site. Too many P.S’s to count, perspective is a funny thing and hindsight is beautiful. John I get where you’re coming from and I always look for both sides of a story. 99% of the people here were cool, one or two though in a polite way pretty much called me a nob whilst acting like a complete nob themselves. I’m always here to help so please reflect on that hypocrisy for a moment if you will. I’m sure that epiphany will serve you (as in the few, not mentioning any names) well in the future. Well that reply was longer than expected and I thought I’d just explain seen as thing thread happened. Please, anyone feel free to keep in touch. If you want me to stick around to discuss other geeky or boring shit like sci-fi shows, cars, DIY, renovations, new technologies etc. then I will, no issues. I wasn't pissed, I was shocked...OK, that's not true, when I first saw it, I was pissed. I thought a "Leaving2024" was becoming a thing. Sorry to fly off the handle. But the exit was mid thread...so it was shocking. As far as burning out - take some time off. Do something just for yourself musically...just start with the sound that makes you remember why you started in the first place.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2024 12:03:08 GMT -6
Well this was unexpected and certainly not what I foresaw . So I was completely shocked when about 18 years ago I lost a lot of interest in music when I was going through a divorce. I was actually pretty depressed at the time, and one of the signs of depression is anhedonia - difficulty feeling pleasure in much of anything. Things that usually bring pleasure simply don't anymore. Holy crap...how long have I been depressed?
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