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Post by hey212 on Feb 23, 2024 16:37:59 GMT -6
I have not. I was interested in the Kush modded Fatso but never pulled the trigger. Cheers, Geoff Yeah, that thing was HYPED on GS back in the day. Not so much anymore. Gregory Scott is pre-hyping V2 on GS now. Can't lie though, I'm here for it. "Like, ubk-1 is, what, 12 years old now? And it still kicks ass and has no equivalent, but good lord, when you hear and use ubk-2, which I'm now able to do, it's clearly from another plane of existence. Magpha filters into our new sats tuned with my current ears... it's next level tech, the sonics are unreal." |
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Post by notneeson on Feb 23, 2024 17:30:23 GMT -6
Yeah, that thing was HYPED on GS back in the day. Not so much anymore. Gregory Scott is pre-hyping V2 on GS now. Can't lie though, I'm here for it. "Like, ubk-1 is, what, 12 years old now? And it still kicks ass and has no equivalent, but good lord, when you hear and use ubk-2, which I'm now able to do, it's clearly from another plane of existence. Magpha filters into our new sats tuned with my current ears... it's next level tech, the sonics are unreal." I was actually talking about the hardware, totally forgot about UBK-1. |
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Post by hey212 on Feb 23, 2024 18:00:13 GMT -6
Oh cool. It's weird he doesn't sell the hardware Fatso on the Kush website anymore, but you can still find it elsewhere.
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Post by geoff738 on Feb 23, 2024 18:30:56 GMT -6
Yeah, that thing was HYPED on GS back in the day. Not so much anymore. Gregory Scott is pre-hyping V2 on GS now. Can't lie though, I'm here for it. "Like, ubk-1 is, what, 12 years old now? And it still kicks ass and has no equivalent, but good lord, when you hear and use ubk-2, which I'm now able to do, it's clearly from another plane of existence. Magpha filters into our new sats tuned with my current ears... it's next level tech, the sonics are unreal." I hope I don’t get WUP’d, or KUP’d in this case, like I did with the Clariphonic. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by hey212 on Feb 23, 2024 18:51:30 GMT -6
Ha! That's funny he actually mentions the Clariphonic update in that same post gearspace.com/board/showpost.php?p=16787416&postcount=715 It sounds like UBK-2 will probably be a paid update too, but I'm just guessing so don't quote me. Personally I think paid updates are totally fair if there's been a lot of new development work, and I wouldn't touch Waves with a 10 foot pole bc I see WUP as a sneaky subscription more than a paid update. |
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Post by geoff738 on Feb 23, 2024 19:04:51 GMT -6
Ha! That's funny he actually mentions the Clariphonic update in that same post gearspace.com/board/showpost.php?p=16787416&postcount=715 It sounds like UBK-2 will probably be a paid update too, but I'm just guessing so don't quote me. Personally I think paid updates are totally fair if there's been a lot of new development work, and I wouldn't touch Waves with a 10 foot pole bc I see WUP as a sneaky subscription more than a paid update. Yeah, I get that to a point. But I already paid $150 for the clariphonic. A not inconsiderable sum. They want $50 to update. Which brings it to full list. But they just had it on sale for $120, a full 30 bucks less than I have already paid. And $80 less than what I would have paid if I bought the upgrade. It would be nice, as an early adopter, to have a better upgrade path than essentially having to pay full list. Had I known I would be screwed out of using the Clariphonic, no way I would have purchased it. So I am not exactly jumping for joy at the potential loss of the ubk-1 which I was also an early adopter of. We shall see I guess. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by geoff738 on Feb 23, 2024 19:08:37 GMT -6
And agreed re Waves. Not gonna go there. Ever. Again.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by geoff738 on Feb 29, 2024 15:06:59 GMT -6
Whelp, am I finally done? Ua got me with the Helios, and PA with the SPL eq and Iron for $20 each. Neither needed, but for the price of a couple pints? I will drink a couple less pints to atone.
I think I have all the major food groups covered. N, A, Helios, Daking/Trident, but not really S. And console emulations from Slate and the Silver Bullet. Can anybody say option/analysis paralysis. Plus Kush and PSP Avedis eqs which are both lovely plus the stock Logic ones and TDR. And every type of compression known to man. Vca, Fet, Varimu, and that’s just the outboard. Not sure I have a diode bridge or pwm style, Trakker maybe?
So what more could I possibly want? Well Quad 8 or Flickinger. The latter exists, but I have been warned off. I wish I had picked up the Nuemann W495 eq when it was a freebie, but I was between computers and missed out. A phase alignment plug. A good denoiser, especially for 60 cycle hum. Possibly an ATR102 or similar.
I am now fairly fluent with Logic drummer, so at this point the only thing holding me back from making music is, well, me. And my crap space but it is what it is. Renters can’t be choosers, especially in this market.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 1, 2024 16:29:54 GMT -6
Aaaaaaand …. Maybe my spending on plugins like a drunken sailor on shore leave hasn’t actually come to an end. One thing I had mentioned wanting up at the top of this thread was a 33609. I was not familiar with Arturia plugins. But as of today I am. And, they have a 33609 plugin currently on sale. If anybody has thoughts on that or their Siemens eq or just their stuff in general please let me know what you think.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 15:40:46 GMT -6
Aaaaaaand …. Maybe my spending on plugins like a drunken sailor on shore leave hasn’t actually come to an end. One thing I had mentioned wanting up at the top of this thread was a 33609. I was not familiar with Arturia plugins. But as of today I am. And, they have a 33609 plugin currently on sale. If anybody has thoughts on that or their Siemens eq or just their stuff in general please let me know what you think. Cheers, Geoffq None of these emulated compressor plugins will work like the hardware. They're not very useful ime as tools. I just got the free softube vca and yeah it sounds cool but on a snare, I preferred the old school oxford dynamics yesterday. it seemed to behave better and be less tweaky while the stock softube vca took the top end off and the hf expander made it too bright. i compared it to the psp fetpressor but that was stupid distorted so i went with the oxford. not that you should buy the oxford if you already have a bunch of compressors (you shouldn't) but that's just an example of how useless a lot of these emulations are in the real world. |
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 2, 2024 15:46:07 GMT -6
Aaaaaaand …. Maybe my spending on plugins like a drunken sailor on shore leave hasn’t actually come to an end. One thing I had mentioned wanting up at the top of this thread was a 33609. I was not familiar with Arturia plugins. But as of today I am. And, they have a 33609 plugin currently on sale. If anybody has thoughts on that or their Siemens eq or just their stuff in general please let me know what you think. Cheers, Geoffq None of these emulated compressor plugins will work like the hardware. They're not very useful ime as tools. I just got the free softube vca and yeah it sounds cool but on a snare, I preferred the old school oxford dynamics yesterday. it seemed to behave better and be less tweaky while the stock softube vca took the top end off and the hf expander made it too bright. i compared it to the psp fetpressor but that was stupid distorted so i went with the oxford. not that you should buy the oxford if you already have a bunch of compressors (you shouldn't) but that's just an example of how useless a lot of these emulations are in the real world. I should use my hardware compressors more. I get lazy. Between the Daking and the Cranesong and the Audioscape I have a lot of bases covered. I know you’re not fond of Warm, and possibly not KT, aka Behringer, but they are here too. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 16:05:38 GMT -6
None of these emulated compressor plugins will work like the hardware. They're not very useful ime as tools. I just got the free softube vca and yeah it sounds cool but on a snare, I preferred the old school oxford dynamics yesterday. it seemed to behave better and be less tweaky while the stock softube vca took the top end off and the hf expander made it too bright. i compared it to the psp fetpressor but that was stupid distorted so i went with the oxford. not that you should buy the oxford if you already have a bunch of compressors (you shouldn't) but that's just an example of how useless a lot of these emulations are in the real world. I should use my hardware compressors more. I get lazy. Between the Daking and the Cranesong and the Audioscape I have a lot of bases covered. I know you’re not fond of Warm, and possibly not KT, aka Behringer, but they are here too. Cheers, Geoff dude just use those. you have some of the best compressors ever already. i love daking stuff.
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 2, 2024 16:07:46 GMT -6
I should use my hardware compressors more. I get lazy. Between the Daking and the Cranesong and the Audioscape I have a lot of bases covered. I know you’re not fond of Warm, and possibly not KT, aka Behringer, but they are here too. Cheers, Geoff dude just use those. you have some of the best compressors ever already. i love daking stuff.
I love Daking too. Wish I had a stereo pair. I keep looking. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by jaba on Mar 2, 2024 16:29:24 GMT -6
I wish Daking still made their 500 series compressor...
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 18:23:09 GMT -6
I wish Daking still made their 500 series compressor... the comp II is that modernized |
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 7, 2024 18:41:31 GMT -6
I have now gone a whole week without buying another plugin. Look at me go.
As for the pledge to drink a couple less pints to cover previous purchases. Um, no comment.
I am considering the Dirty Shirley that PA has for $20 currently. Looking for a convincing Marshall sim for lower to mid gain tones.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Dan on Mar 7, 2024 20:26:51 GMT -6
I have now gone a whole week without buying another plugin. Look at me go. As for the pledge to drink a couple less pints to cover previous purchases. Um, no comment. I am considering the Dirty Shirley that PA has for $20 currently. Looking for a convincing Marshall sim for lower to mid gain tones. Cheers, Geoff there isn't any. the best is so expensive you might as well buy a fleawatt marshall and mic it up. it will be lower latency and sound better with an sm57 into any interface. |
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 7, 2024 20:49:58 GMT -6
Ugh. I could go the UA pedal or a one watt Marshall. I kinds liked the DS tones I listened to online. I just don’t have the space to crank a real one, sadly.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 16, 2024 11:06:39 GMT -6
I dithered. Bought the Goodhertz good dither on their Pi day sale. And the Kazrog compressor bundle, also on sale.
Am I done?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by geoff738 on Apr 19, 2024 13:12:03 GMT -6
Aaaaand. I have now gone a full month without buying a plugin. I may have finally kicked my plugin purchase compulsion to the curb. Although I did pick up a piano library. And I keep checking to see who has sales, so I may not be completely cured.
And yes, that faint tapping sound you are hearing is me patting myself on the back.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by easyrider on Apr 20, 2024 4:56:22 GMT -6
Plugins are a waste of money….we buy them cause they’re cheap….not because we need them.
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Post by geoff738 on Apr 20, 2024 13:33:59 GMT -6
Plugins are a waste of money….we buy them cause they’re cheap….not because we need them. Yeah, do I need any of this? Truth is I’d prefer hardware, but I lack the space, electrical, and funds. So, for now plugins it is. But yeah half of what I bought since last fall I havent even used. So, there is that. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by drumsound on Apr 20, 2024 20:28:33 GMT -6
Aaaaaaand …. Maybe my spending on plugins like a drunken sailor on shore leave hasn’t actually come to an end. One thing I had mentioned wanting up at the top of this thread was a 33609. I was not familiar with Arturia plugins. But as of today I am. And, they have a 33609 plugin currently on sale. If anybody has thoughts on that or their Siemens eq or just their stuff in general please let me know what you think. Cheers, Geoffq None of these emulated compressor plugins will work like the hardware. They're not very useful ime as tools. I just got the free softube vca and yeah it sounds cool but on a snare, I preferred the old school oxford dynamics yesterday. it seemed to behave better and be less tweaky while the stock softube vca took the top end off and the hf expander made it too bright. i compared it to the psp fetpressor but that was stupid distorted so i went with the oxford. not that you should buy the oxford if you already have a bunch of compressors (you shouldn't) but that's just an example of how useless a lot of these emulations are in the real world. I put the Softube VCA on snare drum today and it did exactly what I wanted it to do. But, who knows the next time... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 20, 2024 21:18:20 GMT -6
Plugins are a waste of money….we buy them cause they’re cheap….not because we need them. Interesting take. I’ve made a living off of plugins. |
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Post by ericn on Apr 20, 2024 22:20:50 GMT -6
Plugins are a waste of money….we buy them cause they’re cheap….not because we need them. While still a huge hardware guy I have to say the reasons given to me by most of the working pros I know would say you got it ass backwards, recall and finding that sweet spot on hardware is the waste of time. Yes pretty much every plugin in chasing the tone of analog has left me wanting the analog, every Analog recreation of what a plugin can do has had the same effect. Understand for many this isn’t about chasing sonic nirvana, it’s about paying the rent, we normally don’t get paid by the hour but buy the project these days so if a plugin in can get closer to perfect quickly and get me back there quickly it’s not a waste of money it’s a money maker. |
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