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Post by audiospecific on Jan 17, 2024 21:01:44 GMT -6
Another subject stam I noticed with the mass manufacturing builds is them not soldering the topside of the through hole. Which was a big no-no in the past because it weakens solder joints and it doesn't ensure any via connections on the topside's low impedance connection to the bottom side. Also I notice a lot of SMD formulation are prone to thermal shock and cold solder joints from thermal stress and some seem to rely on the glue to maintain stability. What do you think of Elysia gear? They seem quite proud of their SMD system if you scroll down on this page: www.elysia.com/company and their gear is generally held in high regard, granted none of it has tubes. There isn't anything wrong with low voltage solid state and surface mount. Especially what they are using. The blue melf resistors are proper surface mounts and I see other premium surface mounts used, so they are actually selective with their surface mounts. they must have hotlink disabled on their pictures, but here is what I'm talking about: picture of construction
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Post by audiospecific on Jan 17, 2024 21:17:58 GMT -6
Encouragement can be helpful in evaluating someone's take. Clearly you've already formed an opinion! Nice first post btw. 😂 It looks like one of those guys that insult people arbitrarily finally chimed in. Its probably one of those internet wieners from another electronic form or gearslutz. The username looks familiar.
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Post by hey212 on Jan 18, 2024 14:07:02 GMT -6
Longtime lurker but fuckssake guy ruins every thread he posts on with the same bullshit Checked out some other threads, which confirmed my suspicion from this thread, bit of a BSer indeed.
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Post by waxstash on Jan 18, 2024 14:19:02 GMT -6
It sucks I can’t really use it as a mono unit during tracking (it doesn’t seem to trigger correctly if you send a signal to just one side), but it’s easy enough to send a mono track to both inputs later and just print one side. If you really wanted to track a single vocal through it or something, you could always get a mic splitter or Y Cable and go into both sides so it triggers correctly, and then record one side of it back in. I did that on vocals with my HendyAmps Pollock all the time through a radial splitter. The mix you shared sounds XL! The bit about lack of mono use is a total drag for me. I'm always looking for ways to make my workflow more simple, not more complex. Can't wait to read your full review. Thanks a million for running it through its paces for all us fence sitters.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 18, 2024 14:24:57 GMT -6
Encouragement can be helpful in evaluating someone's take. Clearly you've already formed an opinion! Nice first post btw. 😂 It looks like one of those guys that insult people arbitrarily finally chimed in. Its probably one of those internet wieners from another electronic form or gearslutz. The username looks familiar. No, you seem to have very strong opinions, and not really worried about how you come off when you share them. Especially for a new member. So lets all play nice.
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Post by waxstash on Jan 27, 2024 12:59:38 GMT -6
Any more user feedback on the Grandchild?
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Post by andersmv on Apr 24, 2024 14:40:00 GMT -6
Here you go, I'll officially release this in the next day or so...
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 24, 2024 21:21:05 GMT -6
It’s kind of comical but I haven’t heard one in earnest. I love the Wes Rhea. I have 2 titans full of their gear and the ng Leveller runs the automation for my desk but I digress. I have a rack of Heritage 10XX module which sound amazing. Peter is a clever guy I just worry about it getting a bit Warm audio. I guess that’s what the market wants.
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Post by ragan on Apr 24, 2024 21:53:24 GMT -6
Sounds nice. I'd dig one I think.
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Post by nick8801 on Apr 25, 2024 6:34:26 GMT -6
Man, that sounds great. Cool tune too. I kind of want one, but I was a little concerned about the sidechain access. But I agree with your assessment. Seems to work best with the sidechain out. Thanks for making such a thorough video.
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Post by andersmv on Apr 25, 2024 7:01:24 GMT -6
Man, that sounds great. Cool tune too. I kind of want one, but I was a little concerned about the sidechain access. But I agree with your assessment. Seems to work best with the sidechain out. Thanks for making such a thorough video. I don't know if it works best without it, but that was my preference. I've talked to a few other people that have one, some really loved the first sidechain setting and are keeping it there. I think it's definitely a preference based off of how you use it. I tend to be a little more subtle with vari-mu's, like 3 dB or so max compression most of the time (I like sprinkling them in). I never felt like the low end was getting in the way with the sidechain off, but not a huge pain to pull it out a switch it every once in a blue moon.
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Post by nas on Apr 25, 2024 8:49:58 GMT -6
I think it sounds great actually.... even if it doesn't sound exactly like a Fairchild ( whatever one REALLY sounds like in person! ). I could definitely see myself using it on a variety of acoustic instruments and would probably sound really good on backing vocals as well. Thanks for the review!
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Post by andersmv on Apr 25, 2024 8:57:32 GMT -6
I think it sounds great actually.... even if it doesn't sound exactly like a Fairchild ( whatever one REALLY sounds like in person! ). I could definitely see myself using it on a variety of acoustic instruments and would probably sound really good on backing vocals as well. Thanks for the review! I've found myself using the higher time constants a lot more on this hardware one than I ever have on plugins. Most Fairchild plugins, I'm always using time constant 1 and that's it. It's nice they they included an "Ardent Mod" in this for Time Constant 1, Time Constant 2 on the Grandchild is the normal "1" on a Fairchild. Especially on vocals, turning the DC Threshold more to limiting and doing Time Constant 5 has done a really good job of adding some nice weight and color, here I'm hitting maybe 3 dB of compression at the most. I tried that with the UAD Fairchild plugin back to back with the Grandchild and the UA plugin just sounded way overcompressed and pumpy on a vocal. But ya, the Ardent Mod Time Constant 1 setting on the Grandchild rocks on acoustic guitar. I would have been happy just using it for that one thing...
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Post by nas on Apr 25, 2024 9:19:12 GMT -6
I think it sounds great actually.... even if it doesn't sound exactly like a Fairchild ( whatever one REALLY sounds like in person! ). I could definitely see myself using it on a variety of acoustic instruments and would probably sound really good on backing vocals as well. Thanks for the review! I've found myself using the higher time constants a lot more on this hardware one than I ever have on plugins. Most Fairchild plugins, I'm always using time constant 1 and that's it. It's nice they they included an "Ardent Mod" in this for Time Constant 1, Time Constant 2 on the Grandchild is the normal "1" on a Fairchild. Especially on vocals, turning the DC Threshold more to limiting and doing Time Constant 5 has done a really good job of adding some nice weight and color, here I'm hitting maybe 3 dB of compression at the most. I tried that with the UAD Fairchild plugin back to back with the Grandchild and the UA plugin just sounded way overcompressed and pumpy on a vocal. But ya, the Ardent Mod Time Constant 1 setting on the Grandchild rocks on acoustic guitar. I would have been happy just using it for that one thing... Yeah Time Constant 1 on the UAD Plugin is what I usually use. I could see this unit excelling in a hybrid score where there's say a combination of live strings and acoustic soloists and you're blending them with sample ensembles/ instruments and synths etc.. Having the Grandchild on the Mix bus just gently holding it all together by a couple of dB and imparting a little color would work quite well I think.
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Post by andersmv on Apr 25, 2024 9:57:33 GMT -6
For the first time in one of these videos, I had a really hard time level matching things in the final video montage. I've never done anything this extreme where I'm comparing a whole mix with and without compression. The Grandchild added up really nicely at the end where you're hearing it subtly over every track, as well as a little on the master bus. I was able to level match the two files in the louder choruses, but then on the verses the Grandchild mix sounded a lot louder. I had to decide if I was going to level match the files in the verses or the choruses, so I chose the choruses.
Even though all that compression is technically adding up to stomp things a bit in the loud choruses, it's barely doing anything in the verses, so they're louder. At the same time, it doesn't sound like the verses are getting slammed when the loud parts come in, it actually hit harder to me and still sounded more dynamic with the Grandchild mix than the "no compression" mix. That was a "learning moment" for me when I heard that, and I think it's one of the things Vari-Mu compressors do really well if you don't overdo things. I was careful to subtly stack the Grandchild on everything, as well as just sprinkle it on the master bus. I think the results speak for themselves, and I was definitely able to hear what it was doing and understand it's "sound" a lot better after doing all of this.
Again, who knows if it's actually doing what a "real" Fairchild is doing. At this point, I would say it stands on it's own and sounds great, regardless of the pedigree. I talked with Heritage for a while about arranging a demo of their Herchild 670 so I could do a larger video showcasing both of them, and doing a little bit of comparing. It didn't sound like they were really interested in doing that unfortunately, which I kind of understand. It's not really fair to compare a small 500 series unit to a massive $10k tube and transformer monster, and I'm sure they want the Grandchild to be able to stand on its own a bit without constantly being compared to a Fairchild. At the same time, I think it's inevitable that someones going to do it. I wish I would have gotten the chance!
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 25, 2024 13:23:05 GMT -6
Cool tune! It definitely sound bigger with the Grandchild in...
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