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Post by thehightenor on Aug 22, 2023 1:49:01 GMT -6
sxpro.co.uk/product/fairchild-model-670/£34K !!!! Huh .... WTF Ok so it's point to point hand wiring but still, even if it takes a month to wire it and you're paying a top class fabricator really decent wages, how that get's you to £34K or $43,500 is completely beyond me. I mean there's trading off a name but this is just plain silly!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2023 1:54:09 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure for half of that price someone would be willing to build one for you and happily do the gardening, wash the dishes and clean your shoes too.
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Post by christophert on Aug 22, 2023 3:22:29 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2023 7:02:56 GMT -6
Ancient antiquated tech for rich hobbyists and pop stars pissing away money.
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Post by lowlou on Aug 22, 2023 7:05:15 GMT -6
Nah I guess it has an incredible sound. Too expensive but probably incredible. But then again, what happens when a tube dies...? Huh, this one hurts.
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Post by Ward on Aug 22, 2023 8:17:54 GMT -6
Ancient antiquated tech for rich hobbyists and pop stars pissing away money. LOL!! (keep your humor hat on) but it's a great overdrive! Like having a DOD 250 overdrive preamp in the signal chain. And only $40,000 to $300,000 more. <sigh> the constant chasing this rabbit down a tiny hole by so many is such a waste of time and resources. Let one or two go after it, and the rest of the gear revivalists out there can pursue other noble causes . . . like the Federal, the Sta-Level, the RCA BA6a, Urei BL40, etc etc . . . Took me YEARS to convince someone to resurrect the 1178, and now there are two in production and I suspect a few other me-too/s will jump on the wagon. 1176s? Everyone is making one now and they're all the best . . . well, there was only one that improved on the design in a progressive evolutionary way and that was Brandon's Mohog MA76 (not sure the source of the attitude that sunk that ship) . . . hats off to Chris Yetter for bringing a unique thing to 76 construction: actual quality control. and reducing noise . . . And the innovation nod goes to stam for the 76ADG (and now 76ADF). Final note. . . Just wait until someone decides to move on the BL40. How about quality control AND innovation? Be still, my beating heart.
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Post by smashlord on Aug 22, 2023 8:31:44 GMT -6
If these are the new Telefunken-made ones (they bought the name), one of my friends/clients has one. I think he was an investor in the project beyond just purchasing one. They are only making 30 or so of them for now, I think.
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Post by Ward on Aug 22, 2023 8:45:34 GMT -6
If these are the new Telefunken-made ones (they bought the name), one of my friends/clients has one. I think he was an investor in the project beyond just purchasing one. They are only making 30 or so of them for now, I think. to quote ONJ in Grease, "tell me more, tell me more, tell me more"
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Post by guitfiddler on Aug 22, 2023 9:04:15 GMT -6
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Post by stevenlmorgan on Aug 22, 2023 9:24:14 GMT -6
And the UnFairchild is superb. I am sure the other quality builds are superb as well. Many can vouch for the UTA and you can buy them used for a great deal. Mine was used, pristine and thankfully hand-delivered as shipping is possible but obviously an expensive hassle.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 22, 2023 10:16:31 GMT -6
I'll stick with my Stamchild MKII
Also, not sure what the time mark is but at some point wade from chandler goes into detail about making a true replica of a vintage fairchild and why its hard to do bc of the tubes. That being said, I love my stamchild ... whatever it does compared to an original, i dont care i jussss like it haha and 40k is nutso lol
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Post by damoongo on Aug 22, 2023 10:22:58 GMT -6
If these are the new Telefunken-made ones (they bought the name), one of my friends/clients has one. I think he was an investor in the project beyond just purchasing one. They are only making 30 or so of them for now, I think. That's amusing, because Telefunken also bought the name Telefunken.
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Post by drumsound on Aug 22, 2023 11:24:09 GMT -6
ridiculous price. Dan's comment is right on.
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 22, 2023 11:57:00 GMT -6
Ancient antiquated tech for rich hobbyists and pop stars pissing away money. "Ancient antiquated tech" - that's not the issue for me, most of my prized equipment in my room would come under that banner and I love it to bits - all my tube and iron kit make my plugins sound literally flat and 2D .... so we all have our own personal perspective. Buy hey, if those with money coming out of their ears want to blow £20K on a name .... it's their money.
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Post by drbill on Aug 22, 2023 12:13:01 GMT -6
Somehow I've managed to survive and thrive my entire adult career without ever touching or even SEEING a fairchild. Go figure. Maybe I should be hanging it up, cause I can't afford one now. Nor would I want to deal with the tube issues.....
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 22, 2023 12:43:23 GMT -6
Somehow I've managed to survive and thrive my entire adult career without ever touching or even SEEING a fairchild. Go figure. Maybe I should be hanging it up, cause I can't afford one now. Nor would I want to deal with the tube issues..... My wife's cousin is a reasonably successful UK film and TV composer and he was telling me he had a Fairchild 670 in his studio and a chap in the USA offered him £4.5K (this is 30 years ago) for it. He flew over from the States to pick it up. He's told me in retrospect he should of kept it as an investment. Yep, that would of been wise!
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Post by smashlord on Aug 22, 2023 14:29:52 GMT -6
If these are the new Telefunken-made ones (they bought the name), one of my friends/clients has one. I think he was an investor in the project beyond just purchasing one. They are only making 30 or so of them for now, I think. to quote ONJ in Grease, "tell me more, tell me more, tell me more" He said he hasn't had it shipped to him yet, but its made and paid for. He lives not too far from me, so when he has it, I'll check it out and report back! and correction: only 17 made.
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Post by seawell on Aug 22, 2023 15:01:22 GMT -6
For anyone interested in going the modern Fairchild route, I’d check out the latest magic death eye compressors. Ian has spent the last 3 years tweaking the design to make it work with 12AU7 tubes to make it way more easy and affordable to maintain. magicdeatheye.com/“New design Magic Death Eye Stereo Compressor With the cost of 6386 tubes skyrocketing because of only one company (JJ) making them, and other difficult manufacturing hurdles, I spent 3 years redesigning my compressors. The new models use the very abundant and still manufactured 12AU7 dual triode. This is not a remote cutoff (vari-mu) tube. It does have the widest bias range of all the common 12A(X)7 type tubes. The 12AU7 can still deliver 5mA of current at -20 volts bias at 350v plate. A 12AX7 shuts off at -3 Volts. All this means is that the 12AU7 can be slowly turns off over a wider control voltage range, closer to how a vari-mu tube like the 6386 or 6BC8 works. So I set out to match the performance of my old design with a new design. I rewound transformers, introduced discrete op amps, amassed piles of prototypes and after 3 years, finished a design I’m proud of. Both the stereo and mono use four 12AU7’s per channel flanked by an input and output transformer. The stereo has a new EQ loosely based off the Sontec, using a discrete op amp (Jensen 918 circuit) with the filter circuit in the feedback loop. There is 6dB of cut and boost for both high and low bands. Each band has 2 frequencies. There is also a 20Hz 24db/octave low cut filter. I made sure the unit is very serviceable and robust in design.“
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Post by ericn on Aug 22, 2023 15:01:45 GMT -6
ridiculous price. Dan's comment is right on. Ah the world of more money than brains, this is the studio equivalent to the guy who paid 1.9 million for the burnt out shell of a Ferrari last week. It would be interesting to live in that world.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Aug 22, 2023 16:22:19 GMT -6
I'll stick with my Stamchild MKII Also, not sure what the time mark is but at some point wade from chandler goes into detail about making a true replica of a vintage fairchild and why its hard to do bc of the tubes. That being said, I love my stamchild ... whatever it does compared to an original, i dont care i jussss like it haha and 40k is nutso lol There's also that video where Wade talks with Dave Cobb about having Cobb's unit for almost a year to do Chandler's 660
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Post by yotonic on Aug 22, 2023 20:28:17 GMT -6
Pop stars don't care about this stuff anymore. They make their money off of everything but recording. Sadly...
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Post by tasteliketape on Aug 22, 2023 21:04:43 GMT -6
A local studio here just bought an original from a famous studio for a 125,000 now that’s WTF!!
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Post by yotonic on Aug 22, 2023 22:03:33 GMT -6
There's an original 670 on eBay for $350,000. Lol.... And a restored La2a for $23,000. WTF is wrong with people.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Aug 22, 2023 23:20:13 GMT -6
I would LOVE to hear some basic tracks printed through a Fairchild to A/B with the unprinted versions... Something simple like vocals through an 87, an acoustic guitar with a clean SDC, going into some pretty clean pres... How magical can the sound be??
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Post by christophert on Aug 23, 2023 2:10:25 GMT -6
A producer mate heard my POM and told me it sounds better than the originals he has used, and much better than the Unfairchild. I also have original transformers in mine - so maybe that helps?
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