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Post by chessparov on Jul 27, 2023 18:00:38 GMT -6
It's actually... A Gospel song!  Chris |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 27, 2023 18:03:57 GMT -6
IMHO another 251 right up there... Is Tommy James' personal 251, used on all his Roulette and Solo hits (After "Hanky Panky") Nice to have a great male voice as reference too! Chris Who owns the Crimson and Clover special now? AFAIK Tommy still has it. I may be contacting him pretty soon anyway. The guy who helped save my life last May 2022... Went to school with a son, of the infamous Morris Levy. Who was like Tommy's Uncle effectively... And saved Tommy's life at least once. Owner of Roulette and basis for Hesh/Sopranos. Like Hesh, he sometimes advised the Genovese's. Chris |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 27, 2023 18:05:55 GMT -6
Think his best was Chrystal Blue Persuasion. I completely agree, brother! We covered that for a movie, I’d never heard it as I’d only heard his break beats but it’s a 60’s psych beauty. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 27, 2023 18:11:04 GMT -6
If Tommy didn't have unlimited Studio time, like Roulette gave him...
He totally believes they never could have recorded that.
That way.
Chris
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 27, 2023 21:03:58 GMT -6
Some of these mics sound NOTHING like a 251. The original T-Funk sounds like an average OG Telefunken from 1960 - good but not spectacular like 'Dolly' The Heiserman Flea and Upton all have the pleasant midrange character one expects. And like crillemannen Christian pointed out, the distortion is usually in the mid.s. if it is in the top end, it sounds very sibilant like a cheap chinesium capsule, and that isn't very warm. If the distortion is in the lower mid to bass, it sounds woofy and fuzzy which isn't very golden at all. JMHO, YMMV. Between you and me, my Upton and H47 sounded almost identical. In fact, I had a test session with the same vocal pass with the H47 and Upton…Did the same pass with the Soyuz, and I definitely preferred it on my vocal. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 11:18:41 GMT -6
Some of these mics sound NOTHING like a 251. The original T-Funk sounds like an average OG Telefunken from 1960 - good but not spectacular like 'Dolly' The Heiserman Flea and Upton all have the pleasant midrange character one expects. And like crillemannen Christian pointed out, the distortion is usually in the mid.s. if it is in the top end, it sounds very sibilant like a cheap chinesium capsule, and that isn't very warm. If the distortion is in the lower mid to bass, it sounds woofy and fuzzy which isn't very golden at all. JMHO, YMMV. Between you and me, my Upton and H47 sounded almost identical. In fact, I had a test session with the same vocal pass with the H47 and Upton…Did the same pass with the Soyuz, and I definitely preferred it on my vocal. Sometimes we don't like to say this . . . but it's true. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2023 11:54:41 GMT -6
IIRC "Woofy" and "Fuzzy" were two of the Seven Dwarves Ward. I'm trying to remember the names of the other four. EDIT: Oh yeah.... Lispy/Wimpy/Cheapie/Boomer. There's all Seven. Good thing I'm a Math Tudor. English two. Chris |
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 12:02:10 GMT -6
I thought I said Fizzy . . . but Fuzzy was probably his twin brother.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2023 12:10:14 GMT -6
At least when Snow White accepted the Oscar for them all (they were too Bashful)...
She made sure to thank the Little People.
Chris
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 28, 2023 13:57:04 GMT -6
Some of these mics sound NOTHING like a 251. The original T-Funk sounds like an average OG Telefunken from 1960 - good but not spectacular like 'Dolly' The Heiserman Flea and Upton all have the pleasant midrange character one expects. And like crillemannen Christian pointed out, the distortion is usually in the mid.s. if it is in the top end, it sounds very sibilant like a cheap chinesium capsule, and that isn't very warm. If the distortion is in the lower mid to bass, it sounds woofy and fuzzy which isn't very golden at all. JMHO, YMMV. Between you and me, my Upton and H47 sounded almost identical. In fact, I had a test session with the same vocal pass with the H47 and Upton…Did the same pass with the Soyuz, and I definitely preferred it on my vocal. I’m a huge Soyuz fan. It sounds much better than a 251 clone to me. So much more classy with the way it cuts through. Unlike most modern mics. |
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Post by ab101 on Jul 28, 2023 18:48:06 GMT -6
Between you and me, my Upton and H47 sounded almost identical. In fact, I had a test session with the same vocal pass with the H47 and Upton…Did the same pass with the Soyuz, and I definitely preferred it on my vocal. I’m a huge Soyuz fan. It sounds much better than a 251 clone to me. So much more classy with the way it cuts through. Unlike most modern mics. - how would you compare, if possible, your Soyuz, to the Stam 87-t? Thank you. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 28, 2023 19:08:27 GMT -6
I’m a huge Soyuz fan. It sounds much better than a 251 clone to me. So much more classy with the way it cuts through. Unlike most modern mics. - how would you compare, if possible, your Soyuz, to the Stam 87-t? Thank you. The Stam is bigger and less subtle but similar in shape somehow. The Soyuz has a more vintage sound to it between a 67 and a 47. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 28, 2023 19:44:10 GMT -6
paulcheeba - how would you compare, if possible, your Soyuz, to the Stam 87-t? Thank you. The Stam is bigger and less subtle but similar in shape somehow. The Soyuz has a more vintage sound to it between a 67 and a 47. Yeah - I get the comps to the 67 for sure. |
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Post by ab101 on Jul 28, 2023 20:03:21 GMT -6
paulcheeba - how would you compare, if possible, your Soyuz, to the Stam 87-t? Thank you. The Stam is bigger and less subtle but similar in shape somehow. The Soyuz has a more vintage sound to it between a 67 and a 47. I give up. I am ordering a pair with the mod. |
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Post by 80hz on Oct 1, 2023 11:43:01 GMT -6
Has anybody received theirs yet?
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Post by drbill on Oct 1, 2023 11:57:19 GMT -6
Yup. Months ago. (hence this thread.... ). Loving even more than initially. Great microphone. A must have for me. It's interesting now that we have a few shootouts of the usual suspects. Especially the VK shootout. Turned out, I loved the H251 on that shootout too. Reinforces my decision to go Heiserman. |
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Post by 80hz on Oct 1, 2023 14:28:27 GMT -6
Glad to hear it's working out great! I placed an order back in May, I've had some contact with Heiserman regarding progress, but no shipment has been made yet. I just wanted to see if others have received theirs who maybe don't know the manufacturer personally?
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Post by chessparov on Oct 1, 2023 16:18:40 GMT -6
Maybe give them a call.
(Remember those days?)
LOL!
Chris
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Post by christophert on Oct 1, 2023 20:12:48 GMT -6
Glad to hear it's working out great! I placed an order back in May, I've had some contact with Heiserman regarding progress, but no shipment has been made yet. I just wanted to see if others have received theirs who maybe don't know the manufacturer personally? We all had to wait |
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Post by drbill on Oct 1, 2023 20:17:48 GMT -6
80hz - Since I first heard rumblings about the H251 I've been waiting. I can't remember how long it took, but I think at least a couple years before the "official" release happened. Tweaking, tweaking, tweaking....... Trust me, it will be worth it.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 1, 2023 20:56:45 GMT -6
If you’re worried about whether you’re getting scammed, I wouldn’t worry about that. They’re stand up guys - just might be caught behind some supply chain issues.
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Post by 80hz on Oct 1, 2023 21:01:03 GMT -6
No not worried about anything like that. More just curious how long the list is of people who have paid and are awaiting shipment. I was wondering if there's others in the same boat and if they've received any updates.
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Post by ab101 on Oct 3, 2023 12:44:35 GMT -6
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Oct 3, 2023 17:15:20 GMT -6
Been waiting quite awhile as well but Dave's been great about explaining what's going on. Nick and I both have 47 tubes but can't wait to hear what this can do.
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