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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2022 15:49:30 GMT -6
Received notification of BU67 arrival.  Will try it out before bed/after work, to get a preliminary sense of the 67/269 settings. Planning to update this post after that too. Chris That’s awesome! I look forward to your thoughts on it. Here is the info Ben gave me about the switches: “ Switches; Top left near head grille; hi pass. To the right of the hi pass id Broadcast filter Below these two is the Pad And at the bottom next to the transformer Cathode by-pass: down is like a u67, up is like a 269.” Thanks! Honestly I couldn't see any of that right away, without that guidance. Geico Caveman here. I made sure it was switched to 115 Volts on the PSU. Chris |
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Post by teejay on Jul 28, 2022 16:28:37 GMT -6
Drumroll, please…
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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2022 16:41:13 GMT -6
Actually dinner last night was california rolls and salmon rolls. I love Japanese food. If I have a yen for it. P.S. But not sushi. Too undercooked. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2022 23:56:04 GMT -6
Yep. The BU67 sounds great.
I'm tempted to post the domestic kitchen vocal I did. Which amply illustrates...
1) Its smooth and lush quality ala U67.
2) Chris using his soft after 10PM/don't bug the neighbors voice. Good alternative to Sominex, if you're out of it.zzzzzzz
3) How bad my untreated kitchen sounds,
despite my best efforts adding reverb
camouflage.
Chris
P.S. I'll attempt to record something more worthy of the mic, this weekend at work after hours.
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Post by chessparov on Aug 1, 2022 0:35:10 GMT -6
It was fun singing this "one take" Little Richard song. ("Rip It Up" Intro). BU67 in Figure 8. Chris |
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Post by chessparov on Aug 1, 2022 1:17:39 GMT -6
A more mellow vocal clip. Again BU67 in Figure 8. Chris |
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Post by seawell on Aug 4, 2022 8:49:13 GMT -6
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 4, 2022 11:26:53 GMT -6
Great samples here. They really show the differences with the settings. This is an unbelievable value.
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 4, 2022 11:36:31 GMT -6
Posted on the BeesNeez site. Worth sharing here. Wonderful capture of a beautiful perfomance.
Listen to this sample of “Jolene”, recorded with a BeesNeez BU67!
https%3A//soundcloud.com/stefan-nowak/jol-1807%3Futm_source%3Dclipboard%26amp%3Butm_medium%3Dtext%26amp%3Butm_campaign%3Dsocial_sharing
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Post by chessparov on Aug 4, 2022 13:10:33 GMT -6
Those performances are helping to inspire me to do some more vocal training. As yours do too! Chris |
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Post by Quint on Aug 4, 2022 14:48:23 GMT -6
This does sound nice. Hmmm...
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Post by sirthought on Aug 4, 2022 15:46:38 GMT -6
I tried the BU67 with an upright piano the other day and really enjoyed it. The best description I can think of is focused and natural sounding. I haven't had a singer around to use it with yet.
I didn't even think to open it up to try the other settings, but the S2 mod Josh's video shows off fills out the low end in a nice way! Each of the settings sounded great. I wish the low cut and some of these others were options without needing to open it up. Too expensive to implement?
I have no experience with an actual U67 to know how authentic it sounds.
I had always been hesitant to buy BeezNeez because I thought if it needed servicing, sending back to Australia could be a hassle (and potential disaster if you are waiting forever or it's lost). But I'm glad I pulled the trigger on this.
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Post by ab101 on Aug 4, 2022 16:20:16 GMT -6
Great samples here. They really show the differences with the settings. This is an unbelievable value. $1503 U.S. (today, and I suppose some shipping expense). That is an amazing value! And Beesneez will even tell you what the tube is! (hint to other manufacturers!) |
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Post by sirthought on Aug 4, 2022 18:03:03 GMT -6
Great samples here. They really show the differences with the settings. This is an unbelievable value. $1503 U.S. (today, and I suppose some shipping expense). That is an amazing value! And Beesneez will even tell you what the tube is! (hint to other manufacturers!) I paid $1,457.33 + $57 flat rate shipping. It does not come in any sort of pelican or suitcase style container. So, if you like to store your mics in something that holds the whole amount of gear (shock mount, cable, etc.), you'll need to plan for that. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 22, 2022 10:38:05 GMT -6
I'm going to try this guy next to my Neumann modded MK U67 tomorrow courtesy of jtc111 . I'm really looking forward to it. |
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Post by chessparov on Aug 22, 2022 11:19:45 GMT -6
As Rob Schnapf has said elsewhere, it has nice body. Perfect for my 6 foot tall "Chipmunk" singing voice. Alvin, can you dig it? Alvin!! Chris P.S. We are too Vincent! |
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 25, 2022 9:41:32 GMT -6
I'm going to start with the BU67 is a wonderful sounding microphone and I want one. I was going to hold off sharing my thoughts until everyone had a chance to listen to some blind clips, but I discovered this morning that I messed up and recorded with the S2 mod engaged, which actually explains why I found the BU67 in both modes to have quite a bit more low end than my MKU67. Below is a link to (3) clips which include the BU67 without the high pass or pad, and with the S2 switch in mod mode, the BU67 in M269 mode without the high pass or pad, with the S2 switch in mod mode, and my Neumann BV12 modded MKU67 which still has the S2 in. I recorded the BU67 and MK67 simultaneously, and only stopped quickly to put the BU67 in M269 mode and record a take with just the BU269. All of these clips were recorded through my Neve 1073 DPX. There was a 10db difference between my MKU67 and the BU67. I actually shut the BU67 off at first to make sure the pad was not engaged. Obviously, this would only be an issue if I were trying to use them as a pair, but it is worth noting. www.dropbox.com/sh/f4gunrl2vusnw1x/AACA0OFL6ErhUamuhvARQ_7ea?dl=0So knowing these are not apples to apples in the low end, the only thing I can talk about sonically is the high end. The MK67 seems to have a bit more shimmer and detail on the top end. Frankly, that is most likely due to the tube choice. Mullard made great tubes, but they are known for their softer top end. My MK U67 has an Amperex in it. More beefy than a Telefunken, but not as mellow as a Mullard. Since the design of the BU67 is based around this variant Mullard EF86 you can't roll tubes, which is one of the few negatives of this microphone. Still, the BU67 sounds fantastic. It's not overly dark, it has plenty of detail, it's smooth, and you feel like you could record anything on it with much success. The top end of the MK67 works a little better for my voice, but I imagine a little EQ on the BU67 would get you there. The low end really shined on Jim's folk baritone. Of course, the S2 mod was engaged. I didn't overly love the M269 mode in regards to sounding like an M269. While it had some similarities to the M269 sound I'm familiar with the tube colored the sound a bit too much, and it didn't have the airy highs of my old RMS 269. The AC701 and other equivalents are known for being fairly uncolored. The mellowness of that Mullard tube is certainly apparent here. Still, It sounded very good on its own and is a different color that is nice to have. I really need to try it again with out the S2 mode. The low end build up may be what is throwing me off. So, more to come when I get it back in here. There are a few things worth noting about the mic itself: -I think the build quality is really nice. I don't mind that it's not quite as big as a real U67. It still looks very nice, very profession, and feels solid. -The power supply does not have a light. I didn't like that. It meant I really needed to check if the mic was switched on or off, rather than glancing quickly to see the light is on. Not a deal breaker, but something worth noting. -The microphone cable that came with the BU67 is only about 10ft long. For my set up that was a bit short and if and when I order one I will most likely ask Beesneez what the upcharge would be for a 20ft cable. Something to keep in mind if you plan to order one. -The switches are probably the thing I like best and least about this mic. Because they are on the inside of the microphone you have to stop what you are doing, shut it off, take it off the stand, open it up, make your changes, close it up, and then put it back on the stand. I also do not feel they are clearly marked. Now that I know what is what it will be better next time, but realizing this morning that I had one of the switched in the wrong position was aggravating. However, sonic options are always great to have. The S2 mod gave this microphone a substantial bump in the low end when listening to it next to my MKU67. If I could get a mic with the high end shimmer of my MKU67 and low end reach of BU67 that would be an incredible sounding microphone. In short, I have to agree with Josh's statements in his video. This is a wonderful mic and at this price it is a steal. I'm hoping to borrow it from Jim again when I know Emily will have some time to record some samples. The MKU67 has become her go too mic, but I think with the slightly more mellow top end and S2 mod the BU67 might actually capture her voice better. We'll see. She doesn't love making YouTube videos, but maybe I can convince her for this one. So no one messes up like I did see the below Switch Guide stolen from seawell 's video:  |
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Post by seawell on Aug 25, 2022 11:38:31 GMT -6
There was a 10db difference between my MKU67 and the BU67. Hey Vincent, double check the voltage setting on back of the power supply. If it’s set wrong it will be really quiet like that. Mine was still set to 230v when I got it. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 25, 2022 13:16:01 GMT -6
There was a 10db difference between my MKU67 and the BU67. Hey Vincent, double check the voltage setting on back of the power supply. If it’s set wrong it will be really quiet like that. Mine was still set to 230v when I got it. That was the first thing I checked. Jim’s was in 230 and we switched it over before we started. When I get it back in the studio I’ll mess around with it and make sure the pad wasn’t wired backwards or something. I did have it off per the switch label and your diagram. |
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Post by guitarheadhunt on Sept 8, 2022 13:10:05 GMT -6
Hey guys, I just recieved mine today. I ordered it on August 26th. They didnt ship it until september 2nd and recieved today on Sept. 8th. I have not put it through any test yet. Busy with my day job. Anyway I opened the mic up as I do with all my mics when they first arrive. 1st thing I noticed right away,the tube that is in this mic is not as advertised. There is no connection at the top of the tube. In fact th tube is just loose and only held in place with a piece of foam wedged in between the top of the tube and bottom of the headbasket. Has anyone elses mic come this way. Also my power supply did not come with an ic plug. No big deal I have plenty of those.
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Post by recordingengineer on Sept 8, 2022 15:52:35 GMT -6
I’m super confused. What tube do they say they use? From quick look, it seems they use an EF86, as one would expect for a 67-style mic. A top connection? An EF86 doesn’t have one. I’ve looked at pictures, and it looks exactly as you describe.
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Post by guitarheadhunt on Sept 8, 2022 17:25:19 GMT -6
I’m super confused. What tube do they say they use? From quick look, it seems they use an EF86, as one would expect for a 67-style mic. A top connection? An EF86 doesn’t have one. I’ve looked at pictures, and it looks exactly as you describe. If you will look at the first page of this topic 3rd post. You will see a picture posted of what the tube should look like. Also read the description on Beesneez website on how Ben describes the tube that is used. Referring it to the AC701k tube which has it's input on the head. The tube that is in mine does not have it's input coming from the top (head) as the picture posted by Josh. Ben goes into great detail on how he obtained some old tubes for this design. Here is a small portion from their website "This tube is a real game changer for us as EF86 tubes are getting so hard to purchase in usable quantities and many of those that are available today are either noisy or fail to pass the necessary tests to be used in a microphone. There are some currently manufactured EF86 tubes, but these do not even come close to the beauty of their vintage counterpart and do not even get a look in. Our Brimar/Mullard 86 designated tube is truly a remarkable tube and is so perfect for this application." Nothing to be much confused over if you know about this mic. What has been claimed and how it's advertised. I bought the mic based on Josh's review. To be a little disappointed that the mic is not like Josh's mic at all in concern of the tube. So my questions goes out to those that have purchased the mic. Do you have the mentioned tube in your build or did yours come just like mine. Also my pin 3 on my mic was sunk in halfway down in comparison to the other pins. |
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Post by guitarheadhunt on Sept 8, 2022 17:30:02 GMT -6
mic pic 1 (2.61 MB) mic pic 2 (3.28 MB) Here are the pics of the way mine came. Not the same tube as mentioned in Ben's advertisement or in the mic Josh has.
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Post by recordingengineer on Sept 8, 2022 18:16:22 GMT -6
Your pictures didn’t come through for me. I see seawell’s post and see the top connection you’re talking about. Still, I wonder what tube is Beesneez using? No EF86 tube data sheet I’ve ever seen shows a top connection, since its release in the early 1950s. So still super confused.
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Post by guitarheadhunt on Sept 8, 2022 18:36:32 GMT -6
Your pictures didn’t come through for me. I see seawell’s post and see the top connection you’re talking about. Still, I wonder what tube is Beesneez using? No EF86 tube data sheet I’ve ever seen shows a top connection, since its release in the early 1950s. So still super confused. He said it was a specially built EF86. He sent me a email I will see if I can't copy and paste his comments. He has made sound like he has changed the design but yet his site says something different. |
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