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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 4, 2022 14:55:12 GMT -6
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Post by sirthought on Apr 4, 2022 15:13:15 GMT -6
Looks good. It's already a great product, so I'm sure the updates will be worth the money. All the expanded grooves and interaction with helping you create parts.
FYI --- The website says $99 for the pre-order upgrade. They charged me $79.
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Post by tkaitkai on Apr 4, 2022 15:24:13 GMT -6
Damn, those kit presets sound really, really good. Especially love the "tight room" clips.
I'm going to need like 5TB of storage for drum samples at this point.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 4, 2022 16:19:39 GMT -6
Looks good. It's already a great product, so I'm sure the updates will be worth the money. All the expanded grooves and interaction with helping you create parts. FYI --- The website says $99 for the pre-order upgrade. They charged me $79. Actually, I think the website says: "Pre-order before May 3 and save USD20!* (reg. upgrade price USD99)" So $100 will be regular upgrade price, $80 is pre-order upgrade price. |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Apr 4, 2022 17:19:14 GMT -6
Very tempting. I have EZD2 but only have SDX expansion packs........
Love to see how the "band mate" follow audio works. I miss logic drummer for those quick writing sessions.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 5, 2022 2:28:28 GMT -6
Seen any demos of band mate ?
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Post by enlav on Apr 5, 2022 7:02:19 GMT -6
If anything, this is making me wonder if/when we will see these features in Superior Drummer. I've been using EZD2 for a while but have been waiting (and probably missing) sales for the upgrade to Superior; It'd be great if these features made their way to Superior Drummer as part of an update, but I'm guessing this is all leading to an eventual new version of Superior Drummer.
I'd love to be wrong though.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 5, 2022 7:59:32 GMT -6
Well, I've got EZ 2, and SD 3, and I barely know how to use those efficiently. I'll watch later, but what difference would EZ3 make if I have SD 3 anyway?
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 5, 2022 8:13:52 GMT -6
You’d probably be better off waiting for the sd3 update as it is more premium but upgrade will likely cost more .
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Apr 5, 2022 16:02:16 GMT -6
You’d probably be better off waiting for the sd3 update as it is more premium but upgrade will likely cost more . Do you remember how long it was between EZdrummer2 and SD3? I thought it was about 2-3 years. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 5, 2022 16:26:20 GMT -6
No, sorry, but likely on their website in release notes ?
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 6, 2022 10:33:56 GMT -6
Honestly - SD3 is somewhat freaking overwhelming to me. I’d probably love to have some convincing drums that are a lot easier to work with.
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Post by notneeson on Apr 6, 2022 11:14:21 GMT -6
Honestly - SD3 is somewhat freaking overwhelming to me. I’d probably love to have some convincing drums that are a lot easier to work with. Not sure this helps as it speaks to my personal tendencies, but I have a trick that works for me: basically I audition a couple kits, and then land on one. From there I only focus on editing the midi/building the arrangement. (I do sometimes reduce the level on the hats only). Then I export every mic and pull the wavs into the session and mix as I would regular drums. Basically, I take away the opportunity to get lost in SD3 tweaking. |
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Post by ragan on Apr 6, 2022 11:24:53 GMT -6
Honestly - SD3 is somewhat freaking overwhelming to me. I’d probably love to have some convincing drums that are a lot easier to work with. Not sure this helps as it speaks to my personal tendencies, but I have a trick that works for m: basically I audition a couple kits, and then land on one. From there I only focus on editing the midi/building the arrangement. (I do sometimes reduce the level on the hats only). Then I export every mic and pull the wavs into the session and mix as I would regular drums. Basically, I take away the opportunity to get lost in SD3 tweaking. Why not just route the tracks to individual auxes? You can even hide the SD3 instance if it’s too tempting to tweak. But it would look just like you describe (just a bunch of individual drum mics) without having to bounce wavs. That’s what I do when I use SD3. |
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Post by notneeson on Apr 6, 2022 11:30:41 GMT -6
Not sure this helps as it speaks to my personal tendencies, but I have a trick that works for m: basically I audition a couple kits, and then land on one. From there I only focus on editing the midi/building the arrangement. (I do sometimes reduce the level on the hats only). Then I export every mic and pull the wavs into the session and mix as I would regular drums. Basically, I take away the opportunity to get lost in SD3 tweaking. Why not just route the tracks to individual auxes? You can even hide the SD3 instance if it’s too tempting to tweak. But it would look just like you describe (just a bunch of individual drum mics) without having to bounce wavs. That’s what I do when I use SD3. It’s largely because I love grid mode as an arranging tool, and I love clip gain as a mixing tool. It just gets me back into “mix brain.” A way to avoid that “nothing is ever completely finished trap” as well. |
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Post by ragan on Apr 6, 2022 12:02:37 GMT -6
Why not just route the tracks to individual auxes? You can even hide the SD3 instance if it’s too tempting to tweak. But it would look just like you describe (just a bunch of individual drum mics) without having to bounce wavs. That’s what I do when I use SD3. It’s largely because I love grid mode as an arranging tool, and I love clip gain as a mixing tool. It just gets me back into “mix brain.” A way to avoid that “nothing is ever completely finished trap” as well. Noted. Good points! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 6, 2022 13:23:23 GMT -6
Honestly - SD3 is somewhat freaking overwhelming to me. I’d probably love to have some convincing drums that are a lot easier to work with. Not sure this helps as it speaks to my personal tendencies, but I have a trick that works for me: basically I audition a couple kits, and then land on one. From there I only focus on editing the midi/building the arrangement. (I do sometimes reduce the level on the hats only). Then I export every mic and pull the wavs into the session and mix as I would regular drums. Basically, I take away the opportunity to get lost in SD3 tweaking. Yeah - that's definitely what I've been trying to do. It's been a lot less pain since I got Legacy of Rock. Also - I get lazy sometimes and don't import in the wavs. I need to do that and mix/replace like I do with any real drums. |
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Post by notneeson on Apr 6, 2022 13:41:39 GMT -6
Not sure this helps as it speaks to my personal tendencies, but I have a trick that works for me: basically I audition a couple kits, and then land on one. From there I only focus on editing the midi/building the arrangement. (I do sometimes reduce the level on the hats only). Then I export every mic and pull the wavs into the session and mix as I would regular drums. Basically, I take away the opportunity to get lost in SD3 tweaking. Yeah - that's definitely what I've been trying to do. It's been a lot less pain since I got Legacy of Rock. Also - I get lazy sometimes and don't import in the wavs. I need to do that and mix/replace like I do with any real drums. One more idea, fwiw: I like to stack an additional snare and kick layer, often even just the same exact drum but it gives me a no bleed version if I need it later. |
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Post by sirthought on Apr 8, 2022 1:08:18 GMT -6
Well, I've got EZ 2, and SD 3, and I barely know how to use those efficiently. I'll watch later, but what difference would EZ3 make if I have SD 3 anyway? Superior Drummer is just options overload. The simpler workflow of EZ Drummer can often get you a result you're happy with and there is less time spent wading through choices. I kind of had a mental block on not getting how to work within EZ Drummer for a long time. It wasn't until I spent a whole week basically trying to find a groove for a certain troublesome song that all the pieces started to fall into place for me. It throws a lot of data in your face at any one time, but once you wrap your head around how to work with MIDI loops it's really pretty brilliant. I've never worked with the other big choices like Addictive, Abbey Road, etc. Logic Drummer is great too, but really the workflow is vastly different. |
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Post by mamm7215 on Apr 8, 2022 14:52:52 GMT -6
I wonder if Bandmate will use the whole groove library including add-on EZX and midi packs to generate beat suggestions. I have a Trio+ pedal I take with me when I travel for work sometimes, it's a bit limited but to have something like this is EZD3 or SD3(4?) will be super cool as long as it works. Any tutorials out for it yet? (Btw I've already bought it).
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Apr 8, 2022 16:22:40 GMT -6
I wonder if Bandmate will use the whole groove library including add-on EZX and midi packs to generate beat suggestions. I have a Trio+ pedal I take with me when I travel for work sometimes, it's a bit limited but to have something like this is EZD3 or SD3(4?) will be super cool as long as it works. Any tutorials out for it yet? (Btw I've already bought it). I haven't seen any early reviews yet. But if they come out with some and Bandmate works well I will be preordering. I primarly use SD3 but would upgrade to EZD3 for the feature. Programming drums can really interrupt creative flow and logic drummer allows you almost seamless drums for writing. I never used them in the final song but they are great for what they do. EZD might change this considerably, especially the work flow, if you can load in a guitar or bass part, get basic beat that works and keep writing. Then manipulate the midi to really fit the parts after the fact. Start to finish in "one" plugin. Well probably move to SD3 for the final version. SD3 is basically a midi workstation for drums I love working with it, but i enjoy the technical side by nature. I can totally understand how people would like the simplicity of EZD. Im like that with synths. |
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Post by mamm7215 on Apr 11, 2022 14:33:53 GMT -6
My thoughts exactly. I've pre-ordered already, even if I used EZD3 for that feature to get the midi done then bring that into SD3. That said, the EZD3 demos on the TT website sound good and it's basically Hansa lite.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 12, 2022 12:15:13 GMT -6
Just got a chance to listen to the samples on monitors. Damn...they sound great.
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 12, 2022 16:45:25 GMT -6
Even though I won’t use it on finished stuff, I do like and use EZDrummer to help with groove when composing. $79 wasn’t a bad upgrade price so I pulled the trigger.
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Post by wiz on Apr 12, 2022 17:03:44 GMT -6
Has there been anything showing it working as yet? Interested in the band mate function
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