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Post by sentientsound on Aug 5, 2023 12:51:34 GMT -6
Miad LC4040's Amtec PEQ1A's HendyAmps Michelangelo Electrodyne 711's and 712's channel strips Avedis E27's and E12's Capi LC25's Heritage 6673's and 8173's Quadeight Coranado EQ's channel strips. All my other hardware EQ's I could live without. That's a tasty list. How do you find the E12G compared to the LC25 in use? |
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Post by sentientsound on Aug 5, 2023 12:58:33 GMT -6
Most used here: Avedis e27 Electrodyne 511 Purple TAV RND 5033 API 5500 Chandler Curve Bender A Designs EM-PEQ Iron Age H9 Heritage 1073 EQJr. What do you like the TAVs on? How would you compare their tone against your most used others? I'm debating getting a pair, and I really like all those aside from the Iron Age (just haven't tried 'em)...thanks! |
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Post by chessparov on Aug 5, 2023 15:14:01 GMT -6
Those dial-ly things on my Mackie Mixer.
Chris
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Post by christophert on Aug 5, 2023 17:15:51 GMT -6
Miad LC4040's Amtec PEQ1A's HendyAmps Michelangelo Electrodyne 711's and 712's channel strips Avedis E27's and E12's Capi LC25's Heritage 6673's and 8173's Quadeight Coranado EQ's channel strips. All my other hardware EQ's I could live without. That's a tasty list. How do you find the E12G compared to the LC25 in use? I use the E12g's for standard graphic EQ jobs - they sound amazing. The LC25's are more forward sounding - great on drums - snappy
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Post by srb on Aug 5, 2023 23:34:55 GMT -6
Most used here: Avedis e27 Electrodyne 511 Purple TAV RND 5033 API 5500 Chandler Curve Bender A Designs EM-PEQ Iron Age H9 Heritage 1073 EQJr. What do you like the TAVs on? How would you compare their tone against your most used others? I'm debating getting a pair, and I really like all those aside from the Iron Age (just haven't tried 'em)...thanks! I use them exclusively on toms. They are "round" sounding based on the way I have them set for the studio's Palmetto drum kit. The toms have body and just enough pointedness to bring out the stick. The transformers contribute to a kind of 'softening', I think. As for comparing them to the others, all I can say is that I tend toward broader stroke EQ's, as I use them in tracking often...the kinds of units that are difficult to make sound bad, even with more extreme moves. And, I like inductors and transformers. The TAV's fall into that category. I can add that the Purples seem to allow for a bit more focus (relatively speaking) given their graphic nature and proportional Q. I find them smooth (but punchy) sounding, generally. I use EQ's more for flavor than for sculpting, so I generally don't do large boosts or cuts. Hope this helps. |
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Post by hadaja on Aug 6, 2023 1:39:32 GMT -6
I am guessing people are going to recommend what they already own.
I have the 1073 and its great but I also like the :
Speck ASC-T EQ units I have.
One of my first pro audio purchases was the Speck MP5.0 and I have never sold it.
But I do enjoy those Speck EQ units.
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Post by bricejchandler on Aug 6, 2023 2:42:58 GMT -6
I am guessing people are going to recommend what they already own. I have the 1073 and its great but I also like the : Speck ASC-T EQ units I have. One of my first pro audio purchases was the Speck MP5.0 and I have never sold it. But I do enjoy those Speck EQ units. The Specks are great utility eqs. I think nowadays with all the millions of 500 series eqs you can get better bang for your buck but when they came out, there wasn't much competition. |
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Post by sentientsound on Aug 6, 2023 6:48:10 GMT -6
Buzz REQ-2.2 MEA
Gyraf G23-S
Hendyamps Michelangelo with NOS tubes
API 5500 (opamp swaps sealed the deal for me)
Olympic Germanium MicEQ
2 channels of Pultec (using a Foote solid-state here with separate toggles for input & output transformers)
elysia Museq - although I'm selling mine to fund something else.
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Post by ninworks on Aug 6, 2023 11:03:41 GMT -6
I only have 3 hardware EQ's. An SSL UltraViolet bus EQ, a cheap Rolls 15 band stereo graphic, and a Capi BT50. The SSL is ok for small tweaks and sounds pretty good but the BT50 is a monster. I need another one. The graphic doesn't get used much. It sounds ok but is a bit noisy. I have tons of eq plugins so I use them when needed.
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Post by timcampbell on Aug 6, 2023 12:02:33 GMT -6
The Gyraf G14 is unbelievable and their Tilting EQ is also wonderful.
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Post by Ward on Aug 7, 2023 8:03:13 GMT -6
Apart from channel strips, which I'm partial to . . . The Meeq which was the product that brought me here in the first place. And also, kind of fond of the Chambord 250 EQ, the old Orban 622B and the Focusrite Red 2 Also finding a lot of use for the LH95, which seawell introduced me to with his review. |
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 8, 2023 10:53:49 GMT -6
Must have hardware eqs in 2022? None. You're buying a BMW because you can't handle a Honda. I dunno... I think it's the music you're dealing with and what you expect out of an EQ. And not all EQs with similar features (and even specs) are created equal. Also it depends on your experience level. An inexperienced person can get totally lost real quick if confronted with a stereo, 4 band, fully parametric EQ. And if you want an "atmosphere" type of EQ then you're talking analog technology. You need a balance. Use each technology where it excels. |
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Post by sentientsound on Aug 8, 2023 11:01:12 GMT -6
The Gyraf G14 is unbelievable and their Tilting EQ is also wonderful.
The Ambler Tilt is nuts, the modern dual-topology version especially. Just running through the gain stage sounds nice in S mode. The tube mode is nicer on some things but the S is never wrong. It's also the best brightening tilt I've ever heard. Doesn't sound EQd at all, and the big knob is fun to use for 'hands-on automation'. What's the G14 like? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2023 13:40:04 GMT -6
Must have hardware eqs in 2022? None. You're buying a BMW because you can't handle a Honda. I dunno... I think it's the music you're dealing with and what you expect out of an EQ. And not all EQs with similar features (and even specs) are created equal. Also it depends on your experience level. An inexperienced person can get totally lost real quick if confronted with a stereo, 4 band, fully parametric EQ. And if you want an "atmosphere" type of EQ then you're talking analog technology. You need a balance. Use each technology where it excels. What is an atmospheric eq? Shelves? Distortion? Ringing? Noise? Clipping? Analog technology is mature and well known. The optimal filter structure for digital eqs has been public knowledge for years. There have been common digital eqs with analog frequency response since Oxford EQ and Renaissance EQ and analog frequency and phase since the original MDWEQ. You get modern filter structure eqs for free with Ableton (EQ8) and Reaper (JS:ReEQ free add on). Slick EQ is a great free channel strip “tone” eq. The benefit of many analog eqs are that they are not parametric so no death by a thousand cuts overeqed sound, you can have hands on both q and gain for parametric eqs to adjust both at once, and there is no visual feedback of the filters meaning the user must eq by ear and not by eye! Many of the best sounding eq choices for a given track do not look optically pretty. The drawable eqs inspired by Fabfilter Q also encourage drastic over eq vs skeuomorphic knob eqs. Inexperienced users should not be using much beyond a tone stack eq and baxandall shelves anyway. Something like a Tascam EQ already had that problematic mid bell they could hang themselves with. Even an API 550 has proportional cuts that narrow with gain so deeper cuts can be less tonally harmful than shallower ones which punishes being a scared wuss. Record it better! |
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 9, 2023 2:44:41 GMT -6
The joy of mixing is enhanced and taken to the next level by the Thermionic Swift EQ.
Oh my gosh, this unit on the mix bus has transformed my mixing (and pleasure) mixing experience.
I have a whole slew of plugin DSP EQ's from all the usual players and nothing but nothing comes within a country mile
of this beautiful hardware stereo tube EQ.
Did I say how much I love it :-)
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Post by Ward on Aug 9, 2023 7:16:30 GMT -6
What is an atmospheric eq? Shelves? Distortion? Ringing? Noise? Clipping? Analog technology is mature and well known. The optimal filter structure for digital eqs has been public knowledge for years. There have been common digital eqs with analog frequency response since Oxford EQ and Renaissance EQ and analog frequency and phase since the original MDWEQ. You get modern filter structure eqs for free with Ableton (EQ8) and Reaper (JS:ReEQ free add on). Slick EQ is a great free channel strip “tone” eq. The benefit of many analog eqs are that they are not parametric so no death by a thousand cuts overeqed sound, you can have hands on both q and gain for parametric eqs to adjust both at once, and there is no visual feedback of the filters meaning the user must eq by ear and not by eye! Many of the best sounding eq choices for a given track do not look optically pretty. The drawable eqs inspired by Fabfilter Q also encourage drastic over eq vs skeuomorphic knob eqs. Inexperienced users should not be using much beyond a tone stack eq and baxandall shelves anyway. Something like a Tascam EQ already had that problematic mid bell they could hand themselves with. Even an API 550 has proportional cuts that narrow with gain so deeper cuts can be less tonally harmful than shallower ones which punishes being a scared wuss. Record it better! Just as a stand-alone post, this is a great one, Dan. I’ve always liked the proportional cut/changing Q aspect of the API 550s for many applications. But don’t like the ergonomics. Many good informative points in the above. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 12:18:06 GMT -6
What is an atmospheric eq? Shelves? Distortion? Ringing? Noise? Clipping? Analog technology is mature and well known. The optimal filter structure for digital eqs has been public knowledge for years. There have been common digital eqs with analog frequency response since Oxford EQ and Renaissance EQ and analog frequency and phase since the original MDWEQ. You get modern filter structure eqs for free with Ableton (EQ8) and Reaper (JS:ReEQ free add on). Slick EQ is a great free channel strip “tone” eq. The benefit of many analog eqs are that they are not parametric so no death by a thousand cuts overeqed sound, you can have hands on both q and gain for parametric eqs to adjust both at once, and there is no visual feedback of the filters meaning the user must eq by ear and not by eye! Many of the best sounding eq choices for a given track do not look optically pretty. The drawable eqs inspired by Fabfilter Q also encourage drastic over eq vs skeuomorphic knob eqs. Inexperienced users should not be using much beyond a tone stack eq and baxandall shelves anyway. Something like a Tascam EQ already had that problematic mid bell they could hand themselves with. Even an API 550 has proportional cuts that narrow with gain so deeper cuts can be less tonally harmful than shallower ones which punishes being a scared wuss. Record it better! Just as a stand-alone post, this is a great one, Dan. I’ve always liked the proportional cut/changing Q aspect of the API 550s for many applications. But don’t like the ergonomics. Many good informative points in the above. Yes and now since private equity is giving the house away to increase users and get revenue fast to make their money back to compete with Waves, Tokyo Dawn, and sole proprietor companies like Klanghelm and Fuse, you can get top flight eqs for dirt cheap. Waves Renaissance EQ comes with Renaissance Maxx that is 40 bucks for the whole bundle a couple of times a year. Slick EQ GE and Slick EQ M are sold as loss leaders on plugin boutique for 10 bucks a pop! Ozone has a ton of great eqs built in with modern filter structures and Francisco Partners give away Elements! Plugin Alliance has bx digital with curves from a Roger Schultz EQ and Just run Ozone eqs at 88.2 khz or higher and hit oversampling in EQ8 or JS:ReEQ at 44.1/48 in Ableton and Reaper! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 12:51:12 GMT -6
Just as a stand-alone post, this is a great one, Dan. I’ve always liked the proportional cut/changing Q aspect of the API 550s for many applications. But don’t like the ergonomics. Many good informative points in the above. Yes and now since private equity is giving the house away to increase users and get revenue fast to make their money back to compete with Waves, Tokyo Dawn, and sole proprietor companies like Klanghelm and Fuse, you can get top flight eqs for dirt cheap. Waves Renaissance EQ comes with Renaissance Maxx that is 40 bucks for the whole bundle a couple of times a year. Slick EQ GE and Slick EQ M are sold as loss leaders on plugin boutique for 10 bucks a pop! Ozone has a ton of great eqs built in with modern filter structures and Francisco Partners give away Elements! Plugin Alliance has bx digital with curves from a Roger Schultz EQ and Just run Ozone eqs at 88.2 khz or higher and hit oversampling in EQ8 or JS:ReEQ at 44.1/48 in Ableton and Reaper! Dual concentric knobs have to have the right texture to be easy. Some of the textured aluminum ones feel nice. Also bad are mini pots with poor granularity across much of the range instead of just one hour or so in clockface terms. |
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 11, 2023 16:35:41 GMT -6
I dunno... I think it's the music you're dealing with and what you expect out of an EQ. And not all EQs with similar features (and even specs) are created equal. Also it depends on your experience level. An inexperienced person can get totally lost real quick if confronted with a stereo, 4 band, fully parametric EQ. And if you want an "atmosphere" type of EQ then you're talking analog technology. You need a balance. Use each technology where it excels. What is an atmospheric eq? Shelves? Distortion? Ringing? Noise? Clipping? Analog technology is mature and well known. The optimal filter structure for digital eqs has been public knowledge for years. There have been common digital eqs with analog frequency response since Oxford EQ and Renaissance EQ and analog frequency and phase since the original MDWEQ. You get modern filter structure eqs for free with Ableton (EQ8) and Reaper (JS:ReEQ free add on). Slick EQ is a great free channel strip “tone” eq. The benefit of many analog eqs are that they are not parametric so no death by a thousand cuts overeqed sound, you can have hands on both q and gain for parametric eqs to adjust both at once, and there is no visual feedback of the filters meaning the user must eq by ear and not by eye! Many of the best sounding eq choices for a given track do not look optically pretty. The drawable eqs inspired by Fabfilter Q also encourage drastic over eq vs skeuomorphic knob eqs. Inexperienced users should not be using much beyond a tone stack eq and baxandall shelves anyway. Something like a Tascam EQ already had that problematic mid bell they could hang themselves with. Even an API 550 has proportional cuts that narrow with gain so deeper cuts can be less tonally harmful than shallower ones which punishes being a scared wuss. Record it better! An "atmospheric EQ" is advertisingspeak. What they mean - who knows? It probably varies with the manufacturer and/or ad writer.
I generally ignore such talk.
What I was referring to is a certain activity in the upper harmonic area that some people find appealing on some types of music or, as an example, female vocals.
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Post by rowmat on Aug 11, 2023 22:50:16 GMT -6
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Post by lowlou on Aug 12, 2023 11:23:06 GMT -6
Siemens w295b
Tab 395a
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 11:52:42 GMT -6
What is an atmospheric eq? Shelves? Distortion? Ringing? Noise? Clipping? Analog technology is mature and well known. The optimal filter structure for digital eqs has been public knowledge for years. There have been common digital eqs with analog frequency response since Oxford EQ and Renaissance EQ and analog frequency and phase since the original MDWEQ. You get modern filter structure eqs for free with Ableton (EQ8) and Reaper (JS:ReEQ free add on). Slick EQ is a great free channel strip “tone” eq. The benefit of many analog eqs are that they are not parametric so no death by a thousand cuts overeqed sound, you can have hands on both q and gain for parametric eqs to adjust both at once, and there is no visual feedback of the filters meaning the user must eq by ear and not by eye! Many of the best sounding eq choices for a given track do not look optically pretty. The drawable eqs inspired by Fabfilter Q also encourage drastic over eq vs skeuomorphic knob eqs. Inexperienced users should not be using much beyond a tone stack eq and baxandall shelves anyway. Something like a Tascam EQ already had that problematic mid bell they could hang themselves with. Even an API 550 has proportional cuts that narrow with gain so deeper cuts can be less tonally harmful than shallower ones which punishes being a scared wuss. Record it better! An "atmospheric EQ" is advertisingspeak. What they mean - who knows? It probably varies with the manufacturer and/or ad writer.
I generally ignore such talk.
What I was referring to is a certain activity in the upper harmonic area that some people find appealing on some types of music or, as an example, female vocals.
You can get tons of weird activity in a DAW. You can even get distortion plugins that only distort certain frequencies and target them like a sniper rifle like Saturn, Spectre, and Kelvin. Resonant shelf behavior like an old EQ? That's been there since the 90s. Even shitty inductor ringing has been modeled. You even have hardware models that saturate quickly like transformers fed with DC offset audio now. There are things that are difficult to do well in digital like truly hard knees and hard voltage clipping but EQs that distort on boost is not one of them. Even back in the day, you could boost a resonant shelf into a waveshaping function and have it sound pretty good. You could also boost into some old tube plugins like Boot EQ's drive, Brainworx SPL Twin Tube, Shattered Glass audio, Klanghelm anything, etc and it sounded pretty good. Now there are many more sounds available. |
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Post by linas on Aug 12, 2023 12:00:05 GMT -6
I'd like to get a Pultec for mastering to have some color and warmth, but yeah, Q3 does everything for my mixes.
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Post by drbill on Aug 12, 2023 12:05:30 GMT -6
Out of all my EQ's - one thing I don't really find as "must have" is Pultec type EQ's. I use em, but I don't find them necessary for what I do.
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Post by linas on Aug 12, 2023 14:09:07 GMT -6
I would just want to insert it on master and leave it. I have zero outboard, I've been living in the software world since 1998
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