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Post by bossanova on Mar 30, 2022 12:49:38 GMT -6
Wow…it looks like they finally did it: spark.uaudio.com/. UAD outside of the “dongles”, I thought it would never happen. |
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Post by Guitar on Mar 30, 2022 12:57:40 GMT -6
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Post by deaconblues on Mar 30, 2022 13:02:04 GMT -6
(While doing beta on this) I have been using a mixture of Octo Satellite and the new UADx native versions, and I really don't think this lowers the value of any of my UAD hardware, if anything it makes the hardware more useful. I've been using the native for things in frequent use with a lower dsp load (comps, eqs, strips) and then using the UAD2 hardware for the heavy, DSP-hog plugs (CultureVulture, AMS RMX/DMX, Capitol Chambers, Lexicon 480, Manley, etc). I really like having the option to balance the DSP load however I want -- which will only improve as they add more stuff to the UADx line, make it M1 ready, and I get a sweet new Mac. Fingers crossed for more of the bread and butter stuff like the standalone pres and eqs to come along soon.
I also think using the UA Rack interfaces with Flex Routing are a great way to make your Apollo a parallel fx unit. With some of the dsp stress being passed to the computer, this becomes a more enticing setup for hybrid rats like myself.
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 30, 2022 13:08:03 GMT -6
(While doing beta on this) I have been using a mixture of Octo Satellite and the new UADx native versions, and I really don't think this lowers the value of any of my UAD hardware, if anything it makes the hardware more useful. I've been using the native for things in frequent use with a lower dsp load (comps, eqs, strips) and then using the UAD2 hardware for the heavy, DSP-hog plugs (CultureVulture, AMS RMX/DMX, Capitol Chambers, Lexicon 480, Manley, etc). I really like having the option to balance the DSP load however I want -- which will only improve as they add more stuff to the UADx line, make it M1 ready, and I get a sweet new Mac. Fingers crossed for more of the bread and butter stuff like the standalone pres and eqs to come along soon. I also think using the UA Rack interfaces with Flex Routing are a great way to make your Apollo a parallel fx unit. With some of the dsp stress being passed to the computer, this becomes a more enticing setup for hybrid rats like myself. Ah, I didn’t realize they’re not Apple Silicon ready. I mean, I’m sure they work fine under Rosetta, but seems like the release of this Spark thing would’ve been a good time for the plugs to be fully ready, especially as it’s Apple-only at the moment. |
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Post by Quint on Mar 30, 2022 13:14:42 GMT -6
(While doing beta on this) I have been using a mixture of Octo Satellite and the new UADx native versions, and I really don't think this lowers the value of any of my UAD hardware, if anything it makes the hardware more useful. I've been using the native for things in frequent use with a lower dsp load (comps, eqs, strips) and then using the UAD2 hardware for the heavy, DSP-hog plugs (CultureVulture, AMS RMX/DMX, Capitol Chambers, Lexicon 480, Manley, etc). I really like having the option to balance the DSP load however I want -- which will only improve as they add more stuff to the UADx line, make it M1 ready, and I get a sweet new Mac. Fingers crossed for more of the bread and butter stuff like the standalone pres and eqs to come along soon. I also think using the UA Rack interfaces with Flex Routing are a great way to make your Apollo a parallel fx unit. With some of the dsp stress being passed to the computer, this becomes a more enticing setup for hybrid rats like myself. So, when you go into the insert section in your DAW, I guess you have to pick between the UAD and UADx version of a given plugin? Did you test any of this in Luna? If so, I'm hoping that Luna can seemlessly shuffle back and forth between native and DSP versions, based on the ARM state of a given track, in the same way that it does for the API Vision Console Emulation. |
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Post by seawell on Mar 30, 2022 13:23:47 GMT -6
Does any of this now allow users to sell individual plug ins?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 30, 2022 13:42:52 GMT -6
Does any of this now allow users to sell individual plug ins? I seriously doubt it. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 14:12:56 GMT -6
I’m ok with that, as when I rebought UA , I only bought what I wanted or got thrown in with hardware .
My m1 works fine, will be interesting to try running this new hybrid system with some plugs on octo some on m1.
I don’t use many UA plugs anymore, so my octo never gets strained, but this lets you use the m1 chip too, so no need to worry about buying more sharc chips.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 14:13:29 GMT -6
(While doing beta on this) I have been using a mixture of Octo Satellite and the new UADx native versions, and I really don't think this lowers the value of any of my UAD hardware, if anything it makes the hardware more useful. I've been using the native for things in frequent use with a lower dsp load (comps, eqs, strips) and then using the UAD2 hardware for the heavy, DSP-hog plugs (CultureVulture, AMS RMX/DMX, Capitol Chambers, Lexicon 480, Manley, etc). I really like having the option to balance the DSP load however I want -- which will only improve as they add more stuff to the UADx line, make it M1 ready, and I get a sweet new Mac. Fingers crossed for more of the bread and butter stuff like the standalone pres and eqs to come along soon. I also think using the UA Rack interfaces with Flex Routing are a great way to make your Apollo a parallel fx unit. With some of the dsp stress being passed to the computer, this becomes a more enticing setup for hybrid rats like myself. Ah, I didn’t realize they’re not Apple Silicon ready. I mean, I’m sure they work fine under Rosetta, but seems like the release of this Spark thing would’ve been a good time for the plugs to be fully ready, especially as it’s Apple-only at the moment. Not ARM native, no Windows. Weird. |
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Post by deaconblues on Mar 30, 2022 14:28:16 GMT -6
Ah, I didn’t realize they’re not Apple Silicon ready. I mean, I’m sure they work fine under Rosetta, but seems like the release of this Spark thing would’ve been a good time for the plugs to be fully ready, especially as it’s Apple-only at the moment. Not ARM native, no Windows. Weird. UA site says Windows in Fall 2022. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 14:29:01 GMT -6
New UAD v10 Released!
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UAD Software Version 10.0.0 — March 30, 2022
Changes in this release
• Support for UADx plug-ins
• Support for macOS 12 Monterey and Windows 11
• UAD-2 plug-ins are grouped by category in VST DAWs
• Native Apple Silicon support for UAD-2 DSP plug-ins and Apollo Console
• Flex Routes are increased from eight to 16 with Apollo X Series rack models
• New Mix control for Teletronix LA-2A Collection
• (Mac) High resolution Retina display graphics for Teletronix LA-2A Collection
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 30, 2022 14:36:32 GMT -6
This will be a good option for those that don’t want to get into the HW. Native versions are only the ones listed right now and only available via subscription. If you own the plug, you get free native (without the subscription, right?) So, owning the hardware and emus is still the preferable option.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 14:41:10 GMT -6
Just installing the update .
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 14:44:25 GMT -6
If you already own the plug you are supposed to get the x version.
Download has new installer.
UA connect
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 14:47:07 GMT -6
Satelite firmware update included guess that let’s the two systems talk ?
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Post by Quint on Mar 30, 2022 15:03:34 GMT -6
This will be a good option for those that don’t want to get into the HW. Native versions are only the ones listed right now and only available via subscription. If you own the plug, you get free native (without the subscription, right?) So, owning the hardware and emus is still the preferable option. I agree. UA did this right. I still don't love the subscription idea, but no one is forcing us to go that route. I'll continue buying UAD DSP plugins going forward, and get the native versions for free, without paying any subscription. Where this will get real interesting is when they eventually make it so that Luna is able to seemlessly shuffle between UAD DSP and UADx native plugins in a session, similar to how Luna already does this with the API Vision Console Emulation. That will be the best of both worlds. Let Luna take care of ALL of the DSP management and just get to work. That sort of workflow, similar to the hybrid engine in PT, is where this is all headed and will be super cool. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 15:10:28 GMT -6
If you can’t see your plug ins in UA connect after refresh, likely because their servers are getting hammered and your licenses haven’t been deposited in ilok yet.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 30, 2022 15:15:11 GMT -6
I’m reading this as not available for ALL of their plugs, correct? Just a few plugs from a handful of categories?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 15:19:43 GMT -6
Yes, not all yet, but coming.
I wanted to check but can’t get the refresh to load plug ins .
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Post by wiz on Mar 30, 2022 15:21:39 GMT -6
My initial reaction is that this is the best possible outcome for my situation.
My investment is protected at this point in time. I am hoping to see Octos drop in price on the second hand market.
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2022 15:30:41 GMT -6
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Post by Quint on Mar 30, 2022 15:37:44 GMT -6
With this announcement today, I'm about to be pretty much all UA once my new Mac Studio arrives.
My Apollo x16 and 2192, plus Luna and now the ability to use UAD natively is going to make for a pretty bitchin system in combination with the Mac Studio.
Once they add an update to Luna for hardware inserts, I might even have to spring for a second Apollo.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 30, 2022 15:57:18 GMT -6
Yes, not all yet, but coming. I wanted to check but can’t get the refresh to load plug ins . Did it say somewhere that more/all plugs will be UADx? Did I miss that? Or is it intentionally limited? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 30, 2022 16:04:29 GMT -6
Yes, not all yet, but coming. I wanted to check but can’t get the refresh to load plug ins . Did it say somewhere that more/all plugs will be UADx? Did I miss that? Or is it intentionally limited? I think all of them eventually. |
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Post by Guitar on Mar 30, 2022 16:06:04 GMT -6
Yes, not all yet, but coming. I wanted to check but can’t get the refresh to load plug ins . Did it say somewhere that more/all plugs will be UADx? Did I miss that? Or is it intentionally limited? It's a "big job" to recode all this software. They're not going to say that in public/marketing. But there's a few already done (listed on the Spark page,) and they're working on more. I'm hoping/assuming that every plugin in the roster would eventually get this treatment, but I also have no idea, it's just an ideal. |
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