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Post by scumbum on May 26, 2014 12:53:14 GMT -6
WARNING RANTY; This is a discussion of symptoms, not so much of the much greater and core problem that is being ignored. check your knee jerk politics at the door, Capitalism and Socialism both work in theory and on paper, but they are both built upon a very flawed premiss, that all men are Honorable!!!! Back when Bob started out, people believed/cared about much more than the bottom line, greed was more of an outlier, and shame was alive. Now the "what's in it for me" crowd has not only taken over, it is lionized by the day walking mouth breathing populous? Yes these people possess virtually all the capital, and they buy their own laws and make their own rules to take even more! It's parasitic in nature, a parasite by nature, will uncontrollably suck and grow until their host is sucked dry, eventually killing their host and themselves!!(song writers/music industry or who ever?) Don't believe it? see financial collapse and all extenuating circumstances of sept 2008. There are no longer checks and balances, or sense of fairness within this system. People, country, culture and livelihoods be damned, "what's in it for me" rules the day. Control the money, control the message, get gullible people to work against their own best interests, make more money, control the message, get gullible people to work against their own best interest, make more $.......... the circle of the modern day capitalist agenda set upon a dumbed down society continues! Greedy people love stupid as it's easy to get "stupid" to part with it's $. Still don't believe it? two words "kim kardashian", or "tea/dem/repub party" or maybe even "bro country"? It's all a sign of the times, it's everywhere! Mis inform, indoctrinate, propagandize and dismantle peoples ability to unite. It's the tried and trued divide and conquer strategy, only when one of the 3 remaining banks forecloses on their house, do people realize they've been had. If the bulk populous of the artists, from conception through capture of all music, formed a real union, none of this would have happened, power without capital is achieved only in sheer numbers of like minded people in a united front. At this point, achieving a just system of compensation for your efforts is a sheer cliff climb battle, forget about "up hill"! Of course as always, JMO And to be Clear, i'm calling no one here stupid, very much respect for all, i'm just trying to point out the not so obvious as i see it. RANT OVER LOL This Man Speaketh The Truth ! I'm not into politics , so that stuff goes over my head........but I see can see all this happening today . This right here is what I feel is the problem today , "Back when Bob started out, people believed/cared about much more than the bottom line, greed was more of an outlier, and shame was alive. Now the "what's in it for me" crowd has not only taken over," Nobody has integrity anymore , nobody cares about quality only how much profit can I make . I see this in everything I buy , from a refrigerator that used to last 30 years but now only lasts maybe 10 ...to a TV that used to last 30 years and now only maybe 10......to crap throw away music . |
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Post by Ward on May 26, 2014 12:55:03 GMT -6
So, we live in a disposable society... pass the popcorn.
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Post by scumbum on May 26, 2014 13:52:02 GMT -6
So, we live in a disposable society... pass the popcorn. disposable society = disposable music Heres an interesting quote about marriage today : "There is a tendency among young couples, not only because of the high divorce rate, but also what they have been exposed to in the media from the time they were born, to view marriage as something that might not last. There is also a sense of entitlement among many -- not all -- that makes them centered on themselves. We have become a society in which disposability has spread from material possessions to relationships." And you could say its spread to everything else in life . |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 26, 2014 18:30:29 GMT -6
Narcissism. Enflamed by Twitter, Facebook, etc.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 26, 2014 22:19:28 GMT -6
I've been told by people in the position to know that Motown never paid any payola because we couldn't afford it. In spite of that we were in the top ten all the time during the mid '60s and early '70s while I worked there. The only thing I understand it ever bought was a few plays and if stores told the station nobody was buying it when they called, it was gone within days. There was an extortion scam during the '80s where "consultants" would take you off the air unless you paid them and it devastated me financially however that was only for a brief period and the perpetrators went to prison.
Radio stations sell advertising. They only play music shown to attract listeners. In the old days record store activity was the yardstick. Today, unfortunately, it's focus group results showing they attract very specific kinds of listeners. Music is used to sort the audience.
The best evidence of there not being payola today is this automagically updating sales chart:
thewombforums.com/showthread.php?t=12577
It's shocking how many of those titles aren't on the air at all. |
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