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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 15, 2014 21:11:33 GMT -6
I know most of you have heard him before, but if this isn't proof enough that somethings wrong with the music business, nothing else is. He's on the road right now busting his ass in bars. Only 300 plus album cuts and 4 number one songs under his belt. Every big swingin dick in Nashville knows him and admires him, yet he gets no air play. I would challenge any gate keeper who reads this to put him in rotation on Clear Channel and he will single handedly turn country music and it's listeners back to where it should be.
I know I'm a little bias here, but even if I didn't know him, I'd still say the same thing.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 15, 2014 21:13:26 GMT -6
You'll have to forgive me JK for putting this on the main forum but I'm so mad I can't stand it. WAKE UP NASHVILLE!!!!!!!!!
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Post by indiehouse on May 15, 2014 21:48:49 GMT -6
Sweet Jesus, thats badass!
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 15, 2014 21:59:51 GMT -6
Yikes .
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Post by jsteiger on May 15, 2014 22:16:43 GMT -6
I have heard What Are You Listening To on the Chicago country station a number of times. It should be way more though. He is amazing.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 15, 2014 22:35:15 GMT -6
he's a beast no doubt!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 15, 2014 22:35:24 GMT -6
No argument from me. I hear all of the industry saying the right things - "this bro country is terrible" - yet no one changes it. I'm afraid the real reason things don't change is that - on the whole - the song doesn't matter anymore. Or - the best song doesn't always win. When there was less theft of music, everyone was making enough money that integrity still had a place. Now that there's substantially less money, the labels HAVE to have the artist write their own songs to have a viable product (the labels usual also have publishing and or a 360 deal). Songwriting be damned. It's totally diluting and devolving the genre.
Maybe it says more about our culture, though. What did Vince Gill say - a fart app is the same price as the music that I've put my heart and soul into. And btw - a single in 1962 was 99 cents. Same price 50 years later.
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Post by unit7 on May 16, 2014 1:07:42 GMT -6
Wow! Thanks for the link. Definitely on my 'Live acts to see when I travel to Nashville' list! No argument from me either, but just a thought - in these times of Idol, Talent etc etc fast lane success, perhaps you shouldn't forget and underestimate that a career could build slowly. Can be a good thing in many ways. This guy doesn't seem old. If he's got the love and determination I wouldn't worry.
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Post by svart on May 16, 2014 8:44:42 GMT -6
He definitely is talented, but I've said it once, and I'll say it again.. You think he's great.. but does the general populace? I'm not criticizing here, I just intend to make you think about the perspective of it. Chances are that since you are a musician, you have a much better appreciation for good artists than the general public.. But that still doesn't change the fact that "good" and "respected" are NOT the same as marketable. Hell, even "popular" is not the same. These companies are about money and they have their formulas they are going to stick to. They know what will sell and what won't. It'll take a drastic change in buying by the public to change the marketing.
The music industry stopped being about music and started being about money long ago. Now that there is no money in music anymore, they will wring out every last drop by doing the same thing as the movie industry is doing now, by attempting to copy every single thing that has made money in the past regardless of talent. As long as it's marketable, it'll be pushed by the industry. Attributes like being "good" or "respected" don't make money and won't factor into their equations.
It sucks, but that's the way of the industry. Even then, you can't totally blame the industry, they are simply serving the population with what they want to buy. What they want is simple and catchy tunes that don't take thought.
Verse Chorus hook verse chorus hook bridge chorus
Rinse, repeat.
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Post by unit7 on May 16, 2014 9:05:45 GMT -6
Totally see and agree about what you are saying about the music industry svart. But there are other ways to explore and consume music than the ways the industry offers. There are plenty talented people working, recording and touring and slowly but steadily building their fanbase 'under the radar'. Some have to struggle of course, but others have a good life and enjoy the independence of running their own busineses and the liberty of making music without interfernce. Of course if they grow big/famous enough the industry will try to pick them up. I'm also a big believer of the power of a strong voice (not necessarily in dBs . Especially these times when music is marketed in such a streamline/stereotype way, I believe that many (not all of course) will start to long for the very plain and honest performance seen above. No light show, no smoke, no pyro, just a few people sitting with their instruments playing and singing. Call me naive. I don't care
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Post by donr on May 16, 2014 9:14:49 GMT -6
That's Al Anderson, multi-decade lead guitarist for NRBQ, on the guitar. He's gone country.
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Post by svart on May 16, 2014 9:17:01 GMT -6
But there are other ways to explore and consume music than the ways the industry offers. Yeah, but none of those ways controls the airwaves like "Big Music" does.. Which was the gripe in the thread's headline.. The reason that radio stations play the same 10 songs on repeat over and over is because the music companies pay them to do so. The range of songs is also very limited because it's cheaper to play the same song 100X a day than 4 songs 25X a day, etc. So between the radio stations that have drastically reduced their content in order to cover their shrinking budgets, the music industry has filled in with pushing certain bands and songs that make more money than the others. On the rare occasion that I listen to the radio(rock station) it'll be the same 10 songs over and over.. And even during "all requests" hours, they'll just say "we have a request for (Insert name of the same 10 songs)" until all those same songs are played. Maybe they'll throw in some old Nirvana or rolling stones or something, but it's the same songs as any point in the day.
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Post by jsteiger on May 16, 2014 9:56:37 GMT -6
Well, I still try to be a fan of modern popular country but they are making it tougher and tougher every day. With opening lines like "In my truck flying down a dirt road", I puke a little in my mouth and change the station or put in a Rainbow or Deep Purple disc. It seems the only saving grace is female country artists have a tougher time crossing over into the bro-country mentality....thankfully.
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Post by svart on May 16, 2014 10:03:53 GMT -6
Well, I still try to be a fan of modern popular country but they are making it tougher and tougher every day. With opening lines like "In my truck flying down a dirt road", I puke a little in my mouth and change the station or put in a Rainbow or Deep Purple disc. It seems the only saving grace is female country artists have a tougher time crossing over into the bro-country mentality....thankfully. And I snorted some coffee out of my nose reading this.
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Post by adogg4629 on May 16, 2014 10:25:30 GMT -6
$#1tballs, that was AL on Guitar?!? I haven't seen him in over ten years. He's gone country (no surprise here). I am officially in iTunes download purchase mode now as well as a tour watch. You made my morning Cowboycoalminer!!!!!
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Post by henge on May 16, 2014 10:35:26 GMT -6
Tough times for all that's for sure.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2014 12:20:47 GMT -6
The reason that radio stations play the same 10 songs on repeat over and over is because the music companies pay them to do so.
Hammer meet nail.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2014 12:22:28 GMT -6
That's Al Anderson, multi-decade lead guitarist for NRBQ, on the guitar. He's gone country. He's been at it for a long while now. I think he had a bunch of country hits as far back as a decade ago.
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Post by svart on May 16, 2014 12:52:43 GMT -6
I assume that's like "you hit the nail on the head"?
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2014 13:19:32 GMT -6
I assume that's like "you hit the nail on the head"? Yes...that's what I meant...maybe I used it wrong...
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Post by svart on May 16, 2014 13:32:30 GMT -6
Yes...that's what I meant...maybe I used it wrong... I dunno. I've never heard it before. I figured it was a local colloquialism or something, meaning roughly the same thing.
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Post by unit7 on May 16, 2014 13:48:38 GMT -6
Well, I still try to be a fan of modern popular country but they are making it tougher and tougher every day. With opening lines like "In my truck flying down a dirt road", I puke a little in my mouth and change the station or put in a Rainbow or Deep Purple disc. It seems the only saving grace is female country artists have a tougher time crossing over into the bro-country mentality....thankfully. And I snorted some coffee out of my nose reading this. Me too!
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 16, 2014 18:07:42 GMT -6
Folks, Madison Avenue is who controls the airwaves. That's the problem. It all switched from record sales dictating airplay to focus groups. The result of this change is nothing that isn't in the review mirror, actually says something or isn't distorted as hell gets any airplay.
"Big music" is just a messenger carrying an ugly ugly message. Radio, especially in the U.S., has become utterly useless because of this. Hopefully some of us can find an end run around this mess. If people were buying more records than ever it would be one thing but they aren't.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2014 19:25:54 GMT -6
Bob Olhsson Speaking of selling records...you have any thoughts on how to address the pirating issue? Do you think that is the primary issue that has sunk the industry?
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 16, 2014 19:51:02 GMT -6
Just made my wife Janet listen to this it's that good. It's inspiring, and makes me want to be a better singer.
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