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Post by notneeson on Dec 22, 2021 10:49:49 GMT -6
Wonder what UA and Bock have up their sleeves? Mic modeling 😫. (Conjecture). |
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Post by chessparov on Dec 22, 2021 11:29:48 GMT -6
I hope not! But a 49 style from David.  Chris |
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Post by plinker on Dec 22, 2021 11:57:26 GMT -6
Sure; I realized they are FETs. I'm curious if there is actual harmonic loss, or just perceived harmonic loss. Yes; it's a difficult thing to suss-out, and blind A/B mic tube comparisons is probably impossible. In the end, they aren't making the tubes anymore so something will need to happen. I think Phaedrus is on the right track. It's funny, because there are people whose ears I trust who are on both sides of the fence with these. Some claim they get closer to the replacement tubes do. Others say they loose something harmonically and you are better off with a 5048 or 6S6BV. It's certainly tricky stuff to compare.
On the Phaedrus site, they go on about how the 5840 isn't a proper substitute for the real thing. My Blackspade UM17 (with HK47) uses the 5840. It sounds pretty good to me...but I've never used either the Phaedrus or the AC701 ;-} It's also probably the last tube mic I'll ever buy because both the tube mics I've owned have been a PITA (power supply issues), and I just don't care that much about the sonic differences. It's all about the capsule (for me) anyway. |
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Post by crillemannen on Dec 22, 2021 13:28:01 GMT -6
I have a friend who is developing his own mics based on both 251,m49 and so forth and he sent me a bunch of revision clips and the Phaedrus sounded quite bad compared to the original. All Phaedrus has a 2khz push which isn't nice compared to say a 6072. Not unusable but not great.
I would so want a m49re or a limited edition.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 22, 2021 17:41:32 GMT -6
Crille in the House! Chris |
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Post by brenta on Dec 22, 2021 20:29:08 GMT -6
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Post by michaelcleary on Dec 22, 2021 20:49:39 GMT -6
Hey all, here is some info. Yes, there will be a limited release. There is no release date yet and no pricing yet. There are a couple of prototypes out and about and you can catch Adele singing into one in an upcoming performance. Let me know any other questions. mc Do you know what tube is in it? Is it an AC701K? Thanks!!!! I am waiting on confirmation from Germany so I dont want to comment until I am sure. I wont get an answer until next week sometime. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 23, 2021 7:49:42 GMT -6
I don't know what it is about the modern era of Neumann mics but there's something about the way they capture "s" and "t" that makes my teeth go on edge. One thing I'll say about this video is there is no reason for him to be that close to this microphone, especially without a pop filter. The drums sound super lively in that space. Maybe they were getting too much bleed further back? I'd still stick a filter on there, but the camera guy probably said no. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Dec 24, 2021 9:17:34 GMT -6
I don’t have the funds to buy something like this, but if I did, I would sure as hell want the original bayonet style connector on there. That and the original c12 connector are so finely machined and makes handling those mics even more special.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 25, 2021 14:58:16 GMT -6
Do you know what tube is in it? Is it an AC701K? Thanks!!!! I am waiting on confirmation from Germany so I dont want to comment until I am sure. I wont get an answer until next week sometime. I was just about to tag you so you could ruin my Xmas lol. Maybe there’s hope after all. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 25, 2021 14:59:41 GMT -6
Btw - I don’t know what would ruin it more. Neumann not coming out with one or vice versa
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Post by Ward on Dec 25, 2021 15:21:35 GMT -6
Btw - I don’t know what would ruin it more. Neumann not coming out with one or vice versa I would be fairly certain that Sennheiser are working on ruining NEXT Christmas. At least for our families. But meh, they've got too much stuff now anyhow. Surely they love us enough to understand why we NEED an M49! Really though, I need an M269 as well |
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Post by chessparov on Dec 25, 2021 17:49:41 GMT -6
I'm tellin' ya'. They're working on a whole new 16/44.1 USB series! Chris |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 25, 2021 19:49:06 GMT -6
Btw - I don’t know what would ruin it more. Neumann not coming out with one or vice versa I would be fairly certain that Sennheiser are working on ruining NEXT Christmas. At least for our families. But meh, they've got too much stuff now anyhow. Surely they love us enough to understand why we NEED an M49! Really though, I need an M269 as well I’m still holding out for the 50% off u67 sale. |
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Post by chessparov on Dec 25, 2021 20:24:38 GMT -6
Like a U33.5 then?
Chris
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Post by ericn on Dec 25, 2021 20:29:26 GMT -6
I would be fairly certain that Sennheiser are working on ruining NEXT Christmas. At least for our families. But meh, they've got too much stuff now anyhow. Surely they love us enough to understand why we NEED an M49! Really though, I need an M269 as well I’m still holding out for the 50% off u67 sale. That’s going to be one long hold. |
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Post by phil on Jan 1, 2022 8:28:55 GMT -6
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Post by WKG on Jan 1, 2022 8:36:56 GMT -6
I think an M49 is coming but the way they are hinting I suspect other things are on the horizon as well. Maybe they are finally going to reissue the KM 84?
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Post by phil on Jan 1, 2022 10:43:44 GMT -6
I think an M49 is coming but the way they are hinting I suspect other things are on the horizon as well. Maybe they are finally going to reissue the KM 84? As far as I know, the video also shows this new electret microphone. en-de.neumann.com/miniature-clip-microphoneIt would be interesting to know all the details about the m49, damn I'm very excited. |
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Post by crillemannen on Jan 1, 2022 14:09:58 GMT -6
Well it's definitely a tube mic but doesn't the bottom plate look completely different from a m49? Flatter?
Soundcard as well perhaps? It's just nice that they actually are releasing new mics!
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 1, 2022 14:37:19 GMT -6
sheesh Neumann..stop releasing these damn Tube mics and give us KM84s like we really want!
The mini capsules were already announced. They look interesting, something to compete with DPA and Schoeps mini series. Doubt it'll be better though personally. Their small diaphragm stuff has never been as good as the competition for years.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2022 13:26:59 GMT -6
Did I already mention I won’t be able to afford the $7500 it will take to buy this?
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Post by timcampbell on Jan 2, 2022 13:47:51 GMT -6
Well in europe at least you can still find the rare deal on originals. 6 months ago I was offered a vintage M49 for 7,700 dollars.
I actually turned it down simply because it was a later one with the red dot instead of jewel but it had the original yoke and power supply.
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Post by ericn on Jan 2, 2022 14:44:14 GMT -6
Did I already mention I won’t be able to afford the $7500 it will take to buy this? I keep trying to convince my wife that the mic is less than the therapy I’ll need if I can’t get one😎 |
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Post by chessparov on Jan 2, 2022 14:58:26 GMT -6
Well in europe at least you can still find the rare deal on originals. 6 months ago I was offered a vintage M49 for 7,700 dollars. I actually turned it down simply because it was a later one with the red dot instead of jewel but it had the original yoke and power supply. For most husbands, the red dot they experience... Will be aimed at their forehead, from their wife's rifle!   Chris |
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