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Post by trubshaw on Oct 16, 2023 11:02:29 GMT -6
I've done the mk1V upgrade on both my uln8s. The sound is improved, but it was already great. Seems more tightly focussed now. I use mine every day - they're super reliable and just do everything I want them to.
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Post by petergreeny on Apr 18, 2024 20:25:25 GMT -6
I'm about to order MKIV upgrades for my two LIO-8 3D units. I love the Halo ecosystem, though I've always found the converters a touch thin/brittle compared to my old Radar 24 Nyquist system or Cranesong HEDD converters. Here's an interesting description of the MKIV improvement from Metric Halo, written as a comment under their Youtube video detailing the MKIV field install:
"The Original AKM based analog board sounds great. The new mkIV board sounds better to our ears; it has lower converter latency, uses less power, and has unity gain analog loops. We believe that the bulk of the difference in the sound is down to the low-latency + custom filters, although the updated analog also plays a part. The low-latency filters have no pre-ring; while the higher-latency symmetric filters in the AKM parts we use on the earlier board have better spec sheet performance (better stop-band rejection, lower phase-shift on the high end) the pre-ring on the symmetric filters seems to add a small element of brittleness or congestion that we feel the new design removes. So to our ears, the mkIV sounds like a ULN-8 - just better."
If the new converters are as 'natural' or 'smooth' or ' nearer to analog' sounding as some of the remarks earlier in this thread suggest relative to the previous gen converters and analog stages, I think I'll be quite happy to have done the update. Fingers crossed and wallet bruised...
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Post by Quint on Oct 24, 2024 14:54:14 GMT -6
Well, I just wanted to publicly note here that BJ reached out to me this morning (at no prompting from me) after seeing this thread and a couple of comments I made on the GS thread. He was super kind and generous, and wanted to let me know that DAW RTL performance is something they are aware of and that they are actively working to address. It has understandably been lower on the list than overall stability and a few other features, but four big points: - They understand the issue and its importance
- They have a plan to address it
- They are working towards a real solution
- It's pretty high priority for MH
So once again I'm reminded why I love the MH experience. Very, very cool that BJ reached out.
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Post by Quint on Oct 25, 2024 10:34:04 GMT -6
Actually, I'm just learning about MHLink which, if I'm understanding correctly, is a lower latency method of connecting to the computer instead of USB?
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Post by veggieryan on Oct 25, 2024 11:23:15 GMT -6
Yes, MHLink works over ethernet. I don't think it's quite as low latency or cpu efficient as the gold standard of RME on PCIe but I think it has improved somewhat since I last used it. I would love to hear some real world numbers versus RME if some current users could chime in.
With Metric Halo you have a DSP mixer that has low latency but its not zero so if you are looking for the lowest RTL monitoring through a DAW you want to bypass the mixer or go "direct" to the daw, not through a channel strip in the mixer.
From my notes:
Metric Halo mkiV MioConsole - 18 samples AD/DA converter latency + 32 samples mixer latency in/out (64 samples total?)
The MHLink driver has "safety offset" buffers for input and output on the computer that seem to default around 1 ms each. BJ seems to indicate you can set them lower to something like 0.5 ms each on a powerful CPU so it would be 1 ms total added to RTL through a DAW.
How all this adds up and how efficient it is in real world usage is something I want to know. They just released a new version of MioConsole with the MBSI and Mixhead plugins added to the mixer and I am thinking the mixer latency is low enough with the new converters that I might be able to get hardware inserts working with the I/O plugins and then manually offset latency as needed with delay plugins on other channels until they figure out latency compensation for I/O plugins.
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Post by Quint on Oct 25, 2024 11:51:41 GMT -6
Yes, MHLink works over ethernet. I don't think it's quite as low latency or cpu efficient as the gold standard of RME on PCIe but I think it has improved somewhat since I last used it. I would love to hear some real world numbers versus RME if some current users could chime in. With Metric Halo you have a DSP mixer that has low latency but its not zero so if you are looking for the lowest RTL monitoring through a DAW you want to bypass the mixer or go "direct" to the daw, not through a channel strip in the mixer. From my notes: Metric Halo mkiV MioConsole - 18 samples AD/DA converter latency + 32 samples mixer latency in/out (64 samples total?) The MHLink driver has "safety offset" buffers for input and output on the computer that seem to default around 1 ms each. BJ seems to indicate you can set them lower to something like 0.5 ms each on a powerful CPU so it would be 1 ms total added to RTL through a DAW. How all this adds up and how efficient it is in real world usage is something I want to know. They just released a new version of MioConsole with the MBSI and Mixhead plugins added to the mixer and I am thinking the mixer latency is low enough with the new converters that I might be able to get hardware inserts working with the I/O plugins and then manually offset latency as needed with delay plugins on other channels until they figure out latency compensation for I/O plugins. Yeah, I wouldn't be looking to use the built in MHMixer. Just monitoring thru the DAW, via MHLink. That is, IF MHLink allows for a low enough RTL thru the DAW. So if it's basically ~2 ms RTL thru the DAW, that's good to know. |
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Post by veggieryan on Oct 25, 2024 12:32:39 GMT -6
No I should have been more clear the safety offset buffers are in addition to your DAW buffer so if you have those set to 1 ms each it's 2 ms added to your RTL. If you lower them to 0.5 ms each it's 1 ms added to your RTL... etc. We need a current user to chime in with some real world numbers as to how it performs these days. Can you use a 32 or 64 sample DAW buffer at 96khz and its usable or is it pops and crackles with a lower safety offset?
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Post by Quint on Oct 25, 2024 13:20:40 GMT -6
No I should have been more clear the safety offset buffers are in addition to your DAW buffer so if you have those set to 1 ms each it's 2 ms added to your RTL. If you lower them to 0.5 ms each it's 1 ms added to your RTL... etc. We need a current user to chime in with some real world numbers as to how it performs these days. Can you use a 32 or 64 sample DAW buffer at 96khz and its usable or is it pops and crackles with a lower safety offset? Ok. So RTL, at minimum, is probably more like 4 ms. Maybe more. |
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Post by veggieryan on Oct 25, 2024 13:58:37 GMT -6
Hopefully it's just 1ms total over what you would get with RME at any buffer and sample rate.
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Post by the other mark williams on Oct 25, 2024 14:46:31 GMT -6
Quint : apologies for my absence from the thread. I won’t have a chance to respond more fully for another day or two. I will say that plinker was messaging me earlier today saying he was getting 2.9ms total RTL, I believe. But I’m not sure if he’s routing through the MIO mixer or not. Regardless, even with MHLink, the RTL figures are not as fast as RME’s. Still, they’re pretty good, and there are other benefits to the MH ecosystem for sure. More soon. Also, plinker? Care to weigh in, Jim?
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Post by plinker on Oct 25, 2024 15:36:24 GMT -6
Yo! Yes; I'm running the new MIOConsole functionality through its paces, and I installed the Mk4 upgrade last year. Here's the latency I'm seeing. I'll try to be as context-specific as possible because RTL varies greatly depending on what the heck we're referring to... First, with Mk4 and the new MIOConsole you can now select different conversion filter modes. Here's a screenshot of what that looks like:  Of those four options, the new, default filtering is Low Latency Minimum Phase, and you can see the computed latency for it. The old, non Mk4 boxes used the High Attenuation Linear Phase by default -- and you were stuck with it. Here's what that looks like:  I've been alternating back and forth between the new and old filter settings and have noticed a slight difference. The old, High Attenuation Linear Phase, setting seems to be a tighter sound -- a bit more constrained, while the new Low Latency Minimum Phase setting sounds a bit more open and spacious. As far as what Logic Pro thinks... I noticed more latency than expected for with external processing. However, overdub latency is super low. Here's what I'm getting: - recording latency (as shown in Logic's "Audio->Devices" setting: 1.9 ms roundtrip (0.9 ms output). This is with a 32 sample I/O buffer size @96 kHz - latency using external processing of tracks (as shown in Logic's I/O plugin): 91 samples. This is with the MIO safety offsets at 0.6 ms. I think the recording latency is pretty good -- I mean, 1.9 ms is only about 2 feet of sound travel. I don't know other converters because I've been using MH for 19 years now. When I'm recording overdubs to backing tracks I just use the MIOConsole mixer to monitor both the DAW 1/2 output and the mic(s) that I'm using for the overdub (or new track). Everything always sounds great, with no latency. So, I'm not sure why latency is an issue for some. Is it the latency induced during outboard processing? Mark, I know you are sensitive to latency. Can anyone help me understand the issue? Thanks! |
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Post by Quint on Oct 25, 2024 16:11:40 GMT -6
Yo! Yes; I'm running the new MIOConsole functionality through its paces, and I installed the Mk4 upgrade last year. Here's the latency I'm seeing. I'll try to be as context-specific as possible because RTL varies greatly depending on what the heck we're referring to... First, with Mk4 and the new MIOConsole you can now select different conversion filter modes. Here's a screenshot of what that looks like: Of those four options, the new, default filtering is Low Latency Minimum Phase, and you can see the computed latency for it. The old, non Mk4 boxes used the High Attenuation Linear Phase by default -- and you were stuck with it. Here's what that looks like: I've been alternating back and forth between the new and old filter settings and have noticed a slight difference. The old, High Attenuation Linear Phase, setting seems to be a tighter sound -- a bit more constrained, while the new Low Latency Minimum Phase setting sounds a bit more open and spacious. As far as what Logic Pro thinks... I noticed more latency than expected for with external processing. However, overdub latency is super low. Here's what I'm getting: - recording latency (as shown in Logic's "Audio->Devices" setting: 1.9 ms roundtrip (0.9 ms output). This is with a 32 sample I/O buffer size @96 kHz - latency using external processing of tracks (as shown in Logic's I/O plugin): 91 samples. This is with the MIO safety offsets at 0.6 ms. I think the recording latency is pretty good -- I mean, 1.9 ms is only about 2 feet of sound travel. I don't know other converters because I've been using MH for 19 years now. When I'm recording overdubs to backing tracks I just use the MIOConsole mixer to monitor both the DAW 1/2 output and the mic(s) that I'm using for the overdub (or new track). Everything always sounds great, with no latency. So, I'm not sure why latency is an issue for some. Is it the latency induced during outboard processing? Mark, I know you are sensitive to latency. Can anyone help me understand the issue? Thanks! That's great info. Thanks So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you're getting 1.9 ms in the type of scenario I'm interested in. That's pretty good latency. |
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Post by plinker on Oct 25, 2024 16:14:08 GMT -6
Quint -- so, you're talking about recording while also monitoring through plugins, right?
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Post by Quint on Oct 25, 2024 16:14:44 GMT -6
Quint -- so, you're talking about recording while also monitoring through plugins, right? Correct |
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Post by plinker on Oct 25, 2024 16:19:41 GMT -6
Got it -- Ok, well, I've looked into this recently because I had some <insert my own stupid shit here> problems.
Latency due to plugins is strictly a DAW problem. The interface/converters can't control that -- it's totally up to the DAW and plugins. Every plugin is going to induce some form of latency because the computer has to handle the computations. However, some DAWs can compensate for that.
Logic has "low latency mode" functionality that compensates for DAW plugins. I'm not sure how well that works.
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Post by Quint on Oct 25, 2024 16:39:11 GMT -6
Got it -- Ok, well, I've looked into this recently because I had some <insert my own stupid shit here> problems. Latency due to plugins is strictly a DAW problem. The interface/converters can't control that -- it's totally up to the DAW and plugins. Every plugin is going to induce some form of latency because the computer has to handle the computations. However, some DAWs can compensate for that. Logic has "low latency mode" functionality that compensates for DAW plugins. I'm not sure how well that works. To be clear, I'm just trying to figure out what kind of latency people are getting thru their DAW, BUT without plugins at all, even though I definitely intend to try to monitor thru plugins. As the plugins add a variable that is kind of all over the place, that's more than I'm going to worry about right now, knowing that I will get some additional amount of latency from the plugins. But, if what you're saying is that you're able to get RTL thru Logic of 1.9 ms at a 32 buffer and 96k with no plugins, that's a latency number I can probably live with. |
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Post by plinker on Oct 25, 2024 16:59:36 GMT -6
Got it -- Ok, well, I've looked into this recently because I had some <insert my own stupid shit here> problems. Latency due to plugins is strictly a DAW problem. The interface/converters can't control that -- it's totally up to the DAW and plugins. Every plugin is going to induce some form of latency because the computer has to handle the computations. However, some DAWs can compensate for that. Logic has "low latency mode" functionality that compensates for DAW plugins. I'm not sure how well that works. To be clear, I'm just trying to figure out what kind of latency people are getting thru their DAW, BUT without plugins at all, even though I definitely intend to try to monitor thru plugins. As the plugins add a variable that is kind of all over the place, that's more than I'm going to worry about right now, knowing that I will get some additional amount of latency from the plugins. But, if what you're saying is that you're able to get RTL thru Logic of 1.9 ms at a 32 buffer and 96k with no plugins, that's a latency number I can probably live with. Thanks for the clarification -- I wasn't sure what the context was. Those numbers I posted are straight from Logic, at those settings. Also, that's with the MH converter safety offset set pretty low:  The MH stuff runs pretty deep. I've been using it for 19 years and am still on the (rather steep) learning curve.  |
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Post by indrasnet on Oct 25, 2024 17:37:56 GMT -6
Yo! Yes; I'm running the new MIOConsole functionality through its paces, and I installed the Mk4 upgrade last year. Here's the latency I'm seeing. I'll try to be as context-specific as possible because RTL varies greatly depending on what the heck we're referring to... First, with Mk4 and the new MIOConsole you can now select different conversion filter modes. Here's a screenshot of what that looks like: Of those four options, the new, default filtering is Low Latency Minimum Phase, and you can see the computed latency for it. The old, non Mk4 boxes used the High Attenuation Linear Phase by default -- and you were stuck with it. Here's what that looks like: I've been alternating back and forth between the new and old filter settings and have noticed a slight difference. The old, High Attenuation Linear Phase, setting seems to be a tighter sound -- a bit more constrained, while the new Low Latency Minimum Phase setting sounds a bit more open and spacious. As far as what Logic Pro thinks... I noticed more latency than expected for with external processing. However, overdub latency is super low. Here's what I'm getting: - recording latency (as shown in Logic's "Audio->Devices" setting: 1.9 ms roundtrip (0.9 ms output). This is with a 32 sample I/O buffer size @96 kHz - latency using external processing of tracks (as shown in Logic's I/O plugin): 91 samples. This is with the MIO safety offsets at 0.6 ms. I think the recording latency is pretty good -- I mean, 1.9 ms is only about 2 feet of sound travel. I don't know other converters because I've been using MH for 19 years now. When I'm recording overdubs to backing tracks I just use the MIOConsole mixer to monitor both the DAW 1/2 output and the mic(s) that I'm using for the overdub (or new track). Everything always sounds great, with no latency. So, I'm not sure why latency is an issue for some. Is it the latency induced during outboard processing? Mark, I know you are sensitive to latency. Can anyone help me understand the issue? Thanks! As someone who uses software synths and plugins for real time guitar/vocal effects I can say that latency is a real issue. I am one of those who is very sensitive to latency when using a midi controller or DI instrument. I own a ULN8 mkiii and it definitely was unusable with mhlink latency. I ended up getting a lynx pcie aes card to connect to the ULN8 which is rock solid and allows very low latency, low buffer recording and monitoring. I don't know where things stand now with MKIV but previously the USB connection was a bit faster RTL than mhlink but still not usable in my machine without crackle under 128 buffer in my real world use (96Khz). I think ultimately with the Apple kernel restrictions a PCIe or Thunderbolt solution is best if latency is of primary concern to you. I would love to see the new mkiv RTL USB and MHLink figures in 44.1, 48, 96Khz settings through a loopback RTL software utility though. |
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Post by veggieryan on Oct 26, 2024 12:11:42 GMT -6
My first question would be what ethernet adapter were you using with MHLink? What computer are you using?
When I was using it only the MH recommended apple thunderbolt to ethernet adapter provided usable performance. Using any other ethernet adapter or port was unusable at any low buffer size in a DAW.
My understanding reading the MH 3D thread on the purple site lately was that MHLink performance had improved quite a bit since I had a 3D ULN-8 a few years ago.
I was hoping that it was basically PCIe level performance now with only the additional safety buffer as the penalty for using ethernet as the protocol...
miWould love to get to the bottom of this as I find the MIOConsole to be one of the best and most flexible mixers out there for a lot of my "special" needs.
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Post by Quint on Oct 26, 2024 12:36:56 GMT -6
My first question would be what ethernet adapter were you using with MHLink? What computer are you using? When I was using it only the MH recommended apple thunderbolt to ethernet adapter provided usable performance. Using any other ethernet adapter or port was unusable at any low buffer size in a DAW. My understanding reading the MH 3D thread on the purple site lately was that MHLink performance had improved quite a bit since I had a 3D ULN-8 a few years ago. I was hoping that it was basically PCIe level performance now with only the additional safety buffer as the penalty for using ethernet as the protocol... miWould love to get to the bottom of this as I find the MIOConsole to be one of the best and most flexible mixers out there for a lot of my "special" needs. I've been asking about this over on the purple site. gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1219789-metric-halo-3d-here-270.html#post172174781.9 ms is being reported. If so, that's pretty good. I was a little skeptical of latency numbers that low, but that's also what Plinker was getting up above in this thread. So it sounds like 2 ms is doable using MHLink thru the DAW, at least at 96k. |
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Post by plinker on Oct 26, 2024 13:59:02 GMT -6
I know this is going to sound pretty petty, but one of my favorite things about MHLink it that, unlike the USB connection, you can control the volume/mute using the volume/mute keyboard keys.
It doesn't sound like much, but I really like not having to mouse-around to change the volume! I used to back in the pre-MHLink days.
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Post by Dan on Oct 26, 2024 16:09:46 GMT -6
Yo! Yes; I'm running the new MIOConsole functionality through its paces, and I installed the Mk4 upgrade last year. Here's the latency I'm seeing. I'll try to be as context-specific as possible because RTL varies greatly depending on what the heck we're referring to... First, with Mk4 and the new MIOConsole you can now select different conversion filter modes. Here's a screenshot of what that looks like: Of those four options, the new, default filtering is Low Latency Minimum Phase, and you can see the computed latency for it. The old, non Mk4 boxes used the High Attenuation Linear Phase by default -- and you were stuck with it. Here's what that looks like: I've been alternating back and forth between the new and old filter settings and have noticed a slight difference. The old, High Attenuation Linear Phase, setting seems to be a tighter sound -- a bit more constrained, while the new Low Latency Minimum Phase setting sounds a bit more open and spacious. As far as what Logic Pro thinks... I noticed more latency than expected for with external processing. However, overdub latency is super low. Here's what I'm getting: - recording latency (as shown in Logic's "Audio->Devices" setting: 1.9 ms roundtrip (0.9 ms output). This is with a 32 sample I/O buffer size @96 kHz - latency using external processing of tracks (as shown in Logic's I/O plugin): 91 samples. This is with the MIO safety offsets at 0.6 ms. I think the recording latency is pretty good -- I mean, 1.9 ms is only about 2 feet of sound travel. I don't know other converters because I've been using MH for 19 years now. When I'm recording overdubs to backing tracks I just use the MIOConsole mixer to monitor both the DAW 1/2 output and the mic(s) that I'm using for the overdub (or new track). Everything always sounds great, with no latency. So, I'm not sure why latency is an issue for some. Is it the latency induced during outboard processing? Mark, I know you are sensitive to latency. Can anyone help me understand the issue? Thanks! very cool metric halo came out with effective filters instead of the phase shifted ones. i wonder if low latency is a half band filter, which is perfectly fine at 48 khz (the aliasing is heavily rolled off in the audible band) and computationally cheaper but can be problematic at 44.1? it could be just a fir filter with inadequate band rejection like those that are stock on some cheaper converter chips. again the biggest problem is 44.1 kHz sample rate chosen for audio back in the 70s. |
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Post by indrasnet on Oct 26, 2024 18:43:43 GMT -6
My first question would be what ethernet adapter were you using with MHLink? What computer are you using? When I was using it only the MH recommended apple thunderbolt to ethernet adapter provided usable performance. Using any other ethernet adapter or port was unusable at any low buffer size in a DAW. My understanding reading the MH 3D thread on the purple site lately was that MHLink performance had improved quite a bit since I had a 3D ULN-8 a few years ago. I was hoping that it was basically PCIe level performance now with only the additional safety buffer as the penalty for using ethernet as the protocol... miWould love to get to the bottom of this as I find the MIOConsole to be one of the best and most flexible mixers out there for a lot of my "special" needs. Yes, I worked with MH support at the time (2022) to use the proper Ethernet chipset and settings. At the time USB was lower latency than Mhlink w Mkiii (3d). Maybe that's changed now. Keep in mind Logic and other Daws can incorrectly report RTL. I ran tests using a software rtl utility and USB outperformed mhlink in latency in every test. My old post on the purple site... "I've previously tested the RTL latency on the ULN8 3D connected via USB to my Mac with Oblique Audio's RTL utility. Sample Rate - Buffer Size - Latency Samples - Latency Time 44.1 - 32 - 384 - 8.707ms 44.1 - 64 - 448 - 10.159ms 44.1 - 128 - 576 - 13.061ms 44.1 - 256 - 832 - 18.866ms 48 - 32 - 395 - 8.229ms 48 - 64 - 459 - 9.562ms 48 - 128 - 587 - 12.229ms 48 - 256 - 843 - 17.562ms 96 - 32 - 556 - 5.792ms 96 - 64 - 620 - 6.958ms 96 - 128 - 748 -7.792ms 96 - 256 - 1004 - 10.458ms By my math (which could be off) the improvements for the MKIV will be: 2.254ms less at 44.1kHz 2.058ms less at 48kHz 1.0192ms less at 96kHz So for example, using my results above, at 48kHz with 128 sample buffer the MKIV should be around 10.171ms RTL connected via USB. Keep in mind MHLink connection is several ms more latency depending on settings. Also, whether you route through MIOConsole and/or MC as well adds samples. " If someone is really interested in an MH box I'm sure they'll let you return it if it doesn't meet your needs. Send them an email with your specific use case and see what they say you should expect in real world use. They're usually very responsive. I still use my ULN8 mkiii and it's a very pristine sounding, versatile solution. If Mkiv is really running 1.9ms at 32/96 without issue with heavy plugins/vst that might warrant an upgrade for myself! For anyone who wants to check, here is the RTL utility: oblique-audio.com/rtl-utility.php |
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Post by Quint on Oct 26, 2024 19:04:19 GMT -6
My first question would be what ethernet adapter were you using with MHLink? What computer are you using? When I was using it only the MH recommended apple thunderbolt to ethernet adapter provided usable performance. Using any other ethernet adapter or port was unusable at any low buffer size in a DAW. My understanding reading the MH 3D thread on the purple site lately was that MHLink performance had improved quite a bit since I had a 3D ULN-8 a few years ago. I was hoping that it was basically PCIe level performance now with only the additional safety buffer as the penalty for using ethernet as the protocol... miWould love to get to the bottom of this as I find the MIOConsole to be one of the best and most flexible mixers out there for a lot of my "special" needs. Yes, I worked with MH support at the time (2022) to use the proper Ethernet chipset and settings. At the time USB was lower latency than Mhlink w Mkiii (3d). Maybe that's changed now. Keep in mind Logic and other Daws can incorrectly report RTL. I ran tests using a software rtl utility and USB outperformed mhlink in latency in every test. My old post on the purple site... "I've previously tested the RTL latency on the ULN8 3D connected via USB to my Mac with Oblique Audio's RTL utility. Sample Rate - Buffer Size - Latency Samples - Latency Time 44.1 - 32 - 384 - 8.707ms 44.1 - 64 - 448 - 10.159ms 44.1 - 128 - 576 - 13.061ms 44.1 - 256 - 832 - 18.866ms 48 - 32 - 395 - 8.229ms 48 - 64 - 459 - 9.562ms 48 - 128 - 587 - 12.229ms 48 - 256 - 843 - 17.562ms 96 - 32 - 556 - 5.792ms 96 - 64 - 620 - 6.958ms 96 - 128 - 748 -7.792ms 96 - 256 - 1004 - 10.458ms By my math (which could be off) the improvements for the MKIV will be: 2.254ms less at 44.1kHz 2.058ms less at 48kHz 1.0192ms less at 96kHz So for example, using my results above, at 48kHz with 128 sample buffer the MKIV should be around 10.171ms RTL connected via USB. Keep in mind MHLink connection is several ms more latency depending on settings. Also, whether you route through MIOConsole and/or MC as well adds samples. " If someone is really interested in an MH box I'm sure they'll let you return it if it doesn't meet your needs. Send them an email with your specific use case and see what they say you should expect in real world use. They're usually very responsive. I still use my ULN8 mkiii and it's a very pristine sounding, versatile solution. If Mkiv is really running 1.9ms at 32/96 without issue with heavy plugins/vst that might warrant an upgrade for myself! For anyone who wants to check, here is the RTL utility: oblique-audio.com/rtl-utility.phpThe MHLink is supposed to be faster than USB now, at least if you're on a MKIV. At least that's how I understand it. |
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Post by indrasnet on Oct 26, 2024 19:29:08 GMT -6
The MHLink is supposed to be faster than USB now, at least if you're on a MKIV. At least that's how I understand it. Nice, you all have got me curious about the upgrade now. I hadn't seen anything advertised about that dramatic of MHLink driver improvements in real DAW use (just a slight reduction in hw converter latency specs w/ phase filter and mkiv) but now I'm going to contact MH about the changes. If true, it's a much more elegant solution for my use. |
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