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Post by OtisGreying on Jul 29, 2022 18:17:19 GMT -6
Anyone using a second converter from a different brand with the Lynx for more I/o? Can anyone share how difficult/easy that process is? Im wondering if I’ll have problems in sessions running lots of instances of hardware inserts from multiple (different brand) converters. I originally planned on another Lynx but the outboard I want is actually very cheap and makes more sense to buy a cheaper converter to run it. I had my MOTU 1248 sync'd to the Aurora via wordclock, it worked absolutely fine as an aggregate on MAC. I'm not sure I entirely trust the clock drift function available when aggregating so if you are going to do it make sure the secondary device has WC.. So the Lynx was your primary converter/clock and the motu just works as a secondary synced to its clock? They’re aren’t any issues?? If it’s that simple it’s a no brainer then, I may just get that very motu device.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2022 18:29:25 GMT -6
So the Lynx was your primary converter/clock and the motu just works as a secondary synced to its clock? They’re aren’t any issues?? If it’s that simple it’s a no brainer then, I may just get that very motu device. Yep, it's very straight forward. Here's an article:
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Post by ironinthepath on Jul 30, 2022 20:48:53 GMT -6
I use a Dangerous Monitor ST (with remote) with my Aurora (n) setup --> love it!
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Post by nick8801 on Jul 31, 2022 6:18:20 GMT -6
Forgot to post here, but I had the Lynx preamp card installed several months ago and I’ve since sold all of my outboard pres. They are crystal clear and dead quiet, plus they are wired directly to their own converters. Since I downsized my home studio to more of a production/mixing setup, the Lynx pres were a no brainer. Even when I do more acoustic/live recordings as opposed to all itb stuff, only having four pres really makes me focus on making music instead of spending hours micing up a drum kit. I think you can have up to 8 of these installed in one unit. They are fantastic pres!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 31, 2022 7:14:20 GMT -6
Thx for posting about the pre module!
Wish Lynx would drop the default sd card: much rather have the 4 pres!!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 31, 2022 8:13:21 GMT -6
He references links to sound files.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 31, 2022 8:14:39 GMT -6
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 2, 2022 15:41:28 GMT -6
Well, I took the plunge and went through with my Aurora N order. My impression is that it's like it is when using it through Access Analog, but much better. Using it through AA is like getting a preview. The sound is very clean and clear enabling mixes that sounded a bit anemic or messy to now sound smooth and very listenable. Comparisons between the same mixes bounced on the 404HD or Apollo Twin are pretty similar to the ones Streaky did on Youtube with the Hilo and the Behringer 202UMC. The Lynx will give you a smoother, fuller sound with better stereo imaging. I'm also not getting feedback when using Fusion. I don't know if it's because I'm using 25 Mogami cables or because of the conversion, but I always had to put trim plugins after the Pro Tools hardware insert when using Fusion or massive feedback would hit me. And I'd have to cut the volume by a lot. But it never completely went away using the 404HD or Twin. Maybe it was the Guitar Center cables. Not sure if the shielded usb cable makes a difference. Last night I used the usb cable from the 404hd. Today stuff sounds better with the Lynx usb cable, but I haven't done a null test or anything.
The setup was easy enough. It's basically plug n play. Just plugged Fusion into inputs 3 and 4. I'm not sure what routing scheme I'd have to use to get it in 1 and 2. Lately with the Twin, Fusion just worked with the Console instructions whereas before it would not work a lot of the time. The 404HD is quite good and I got a bounce of the same mix previously bounced with the Twin to null. The 404HD does have issues with output volume and the fact that the inputs have to have the volume manually set or you end up with one channel louder than the other. But I must say the Aurora N is several leagues above the 404HD, Twin, and original ID14.
The headphone out supposedly has a 0 impedance according to what my Sweetwater guy heard from Lynx. It is way too loud for my Sony Z7M2. Works well with VSX though.
The Aurora N sounds good enough that I could almost get by just using plugins.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2022 15:47:18 GMT -6
Have fun, try recording using ob and just monitor off the aurora.
Be curious, what you will think of it standalone?
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 2, 2022 19:55:24 GMT -6
I used a zoom r16 portably for years before getting into a DAW. It had some version of Cubase that I found very unintuitive. This was around 2009. The onscreen meters and display are pretty thorough on the Lynx. I wonder if I can just load tracks and then record new ones like on a DAW. It will be a little while before I record much with it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2022 20:33:57 GMT -6
Not certain what you mean by load tracks but you can import pretecorded tracks into any daw, record directly onto aurora sd card without a computer/daw or record into daw .
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Post by RealNoob on Nov 2, 2022 20:51:55 GMT -6
Well, i can get an Aurora 16 for under a grand. Anyone know how they stand today?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2022 22:15:04 GMT -6
It would be good value and sound fine as long as everything is functional.
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Post by nick8801 on Nov 3, 2022 6:26:32 GMT -6
Still loving mine. Since getting the preamp card, I'm essentially all ITB. Literally everything I do goes through the Lynx preamps and converters, and all my monitoring/mixing is done through the Lynx. Never had an easier time making music. Could be a combination of getting older and better skilled but having top notch conversion and clean clear preamps sure doesn't hurt!
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Post by enlav on Nov 3, 2022 9:02:00 GMT -6
Well, i can get an Aurora 16 for under a grand. Anyone know how they stand today? If you're talking about the first gen or non-(N) versions, there some reported heat issue that I remember reading in prior threads that could necessitate service after years of use.
If it IS the newer model, sub 1000 would be an instant buy from me, regardless of currently installed cards.
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 3, 2022 9:26:33 GMT -6
Well, i can get an Aurora 16 for under a grand. Anyone know how they stand today? If you're talking about the first gen or non-(N) versions, there some reported heat issue that I remember reading in prior threads that could necessitate service after years of use.
If it IS the newer model, sub 1000 would be an instant buy from me, regardless of currently installed cards.
Sub $1k for a 16 channel Aurora (n)? That would be crazy cheap.
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 3, 2022 10:30:34 GMT -6
Well, i can get an Aurora 16 for under a grand. Anyone know how they stand today? If you're talking about the first gen or non-(N) versions, there some reported heat issue that I remember reading in prior threads that could necessitate service after years of use.
If it IS the newer model, sub 1000 would be an instant buy from me, regardless of currently installed cards.
At this point I would be looking at mfg date of an original Aurora. I bought one used and within a year the caps on channels 9-16 went out and needed replacing. That was going to be 400 dollars of work in 2016 or 17. If it's an (n) then holy moly.
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Post by mcirish on Nov 3, 2022 10:31:59 GMT -6
Well, i can get an Aurora 16 for under a grand. Anyone know how they stand today? I have an Aurora 16 and use AES to get another 8 channels for a total of 24. I never track any more than that anyway. To me, it's still great. Would I like to get the newer version.... of course, but I don't think it's going to be a night and day difference. If my mixes suck now, they will still suck with any other converter. But... I still want the new one. I love Lynx as a company. They have always been super helpful.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2022 13:59:32 GMT -6
I’ll sell my N when I stop recording !
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 3, 2022 14:30:38 GMT -6
I am curious if I can do something like put instrument tracks on an SD card and then upon inserting into the Aurora that they end up being setup as separate tracks. But, I don't think the Aurora has DSP fx like the Zoom R16 does. So, any recording has to be done with what's present outside the Aurora I imagine. Plugins sound much, much better with this thing. With the ID14, Twin, or 404HD, I did not think it sounded good when using the 20hz and 20khz filters on Oxford Eq(or any other eq) and Softube Overstayer sounded like too much. Mixes with more tracks especially sound significantly better. One Lynx video pointed out that Lynx posts measurements from their devices whereas the usual practice is for a company to just post the measurements of the chips themselves or whatever. Lynx stuff isn't going to turn a bad mix into a good one, but it can make a mix with problems sound good since it seems a lot of problems are caused by the interface itself.
I think there's this whole industry based on convincing people to buy cheaper gear that provides a problematic foundation and then get them in a cycle of buying loads of plugins, educational videos and courses, mics, or even hardware. That can work if it's just someone screwing around with samples, VIs, fake instruments, things that were recorded well in good studios or that are computer generated. If it's real instruments recorded in not very ideal ways, then you don't need your interface to add to the problems. I've never bought into the whole Recording Revolution philosophy. Can't say I've ever heard anything Graham mixed that made me think "Wow, how do I get that sound?". It's ok if you're a guy who works all week and wants to record your band's latest jam or something after you drop $1500 at Guitar Center, but that's all I ever took away from that. I knew a lot of guys like that circa 2007. Guys who did blue collar work and would show up with their latest gizmo from Guitar Center thinking it had magical properties or whatever. Cool guys, but very naive.
My Fusion hardware sounds much smoother and wider than plugin chains. Sometimes it sounds like adding any plugins after Fusion in a mastering session just degrades the sound. I'd definitely like to add some more stuff, but I could get by like this for a while. Still a lot of room to explore the expanded potential of plugins with this level of conversion quality.
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Post by tkaitkai on Nov 3, 2022 16:08:51 GMT -6
Well, i can get an Aurora 16 for under a grand. Anyone know how they stand today?
I love Lynx, but I would shy away from the original Auroras and opt for an Aurora(n) or Hilo instead.
I had an original Aurora 8 that I bought used in 2020, and the sound was pretty bad. Relatively speaking, of course — the recordings were still usable, but the tone was just kind of cruddy/gritty/brittle and I was never happy with it. Replacing it with a Lavry was a big eye-opener.
It is possible that it just needed servicing, and I wouldn't be surprised, as it was literally the hottest piece of gear I've ever owned. But who knows.
All of the current Lynx stuff is amazing, though.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2022 16:10:58 GMT -6
That is not a typical criticism of the original auroras , maybe it did need servicing ?
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Post by allbuttonmode on Nov 4, 2022 5:51:30 GMT -6
I've got 3 of the old Auroras, and they produce a LOT of heat. But, as long as you leave an empty rack space above and below, you'll be fine. I've had mine for over 10 years now.
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Post by tkaitkai on Nov 4, 2022 7:41:35 GMT -6
I've got 3 of the old Auroras, and they produce a LOT of heat. But, as long as you leave an empty rack space above and below, you'll be fine. I've had mine for over 10 years now. Yeah, other people seemed to do just fine with them! Sadly, I could just never get mine to sound right. It was super frustrating.
I've talked to a few others who had the same experience, and I also made a thread about it here a while back. I believe someone mentioned that the caps in the old Auroras needed replacing every so often. Maybe mine had reached that point — I did leave space above/below it, but I wasn't the original owner, so who knows...
Either way, I still think the Hilo and Aurora(n) are killer, and I would gladly make recordings with either one.
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Post by ericn on Nov 4, 2022 8:28:37 GMT -6
I've got 3 of the old Auroras, and they produce a LOT of heat. But, as long as you leave an empty rack space above and below, you'll be fine. I've had mine for over 10 years now. Yeah, other people seemed to do just fine with them! Sadly, I could just never get mine to sound right. It was super frustrating.
I've talked to a few others who had the same experience, and I also made a thread about it here a while back. I believe someone mentioned that the caps in the old Auroras needed replacing every so often. Maybe mine had reached that point — I did leave space above/below it, but I wasn't the original owner, so who knows...
Either way, I still think the Hilo and Aurora(n) are killer, and I would gladly make recordings with either one.
Often wondered how much the caps issue had to do with heat issues. That brings up a major gripe if it needs space to breathe design it in a bigger chassis!
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