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Post by Mister Chase on Dec 13, 2022 21:15:35 GMT -6
My understanding is that ADK’s 67 style mics are really 269 style mics. Larry has mentioned that their Z-Mod 67 is a sonic clone of his personal favorite M269 he has access to. The clips Todd shared with me definitely had an M269 vibe and not a U67 vibe. Not that it’s a bad thing, if that’s the sound you want. I think I mentioned I got a z67 5 or so years ago. It was really a great mic. Just loved it on my voice and it sounded amazing on electric guitar with my Gretsch. But due to financial reasons I had to sell it. I would love to have one some day but they've gone up a good bit. It had a sheen and presence to it that I wouldn't associate with a u67 but still had that velvety mid range. That must be the 269 top. |
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Post by plinker on Dec 13, 2022 21:27:46 GMT -6
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Post by teejay on Dec 14, 2022 10:28:56 GMT -6
My understanding is that ADK’s 67 style mics are really 269 style mics. Larry has mentioned that their Z-Mod 67 is a sonic clone of his personal favorite M269 he has access to. The clips Todd shared with me definitely had an M269 vibe and not a U67 vibe. Not that it’s a bad thing, if that’s the sound you want. Good callout, Vinnie. I had forgotten about this. From Larry's 2014 post on "another" site: "If you find it has slightly more presence than a vintage U-67, that is because it was based on the M-269 mic which was specifically boosted a bit in the range of speech-intelligibility." And from the ADK site for the Z-67: "ADK Z-67 is a versatile microphone that will work on almost any source you put in front of it. Based on the rare M-269 Broadcast-Version of a U67, this is a mic prized by discriminating musicians and engineers since 1960. Z-67 covers the widest range of singers and source material. Golden-Ears chose the Swedish Lundahl transformer to create an extra mid-range required to push the vocal slightly forward in a modern mix. Jazz and R&B, even Opera Singers love the Z-67." Hmmm...do we know any Opera singers here?  |
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 14, 2022 10:58:34 GMT -6
My understanding is that ADK’s 67 style mics are really 269 style mics. Larry has mentioned that their Z-Mod 67 is a sonic clone of his personal favorite M269 he has access to. The clips Todd shared with me definitely had an M269 vibe and not a U67 vibe. Not that it’s a bad thing, if that’s the sound you want. Good callout, Vinnie. I had forgotten about this. From Larry's 2014 post on "another" site: "If you find it has slightly more presence than a vintage U-67, that is because it was based on the M-269 mic which was specifically boosted a bit in the range of speech-intelligibility." And from the ADK site for the Z-67: "ADK Z-67 is a versatile microphone that will work on almost any source you put in front of it. Based on the rare M-269 Broadcast-Version of a U67, this is a mic prized by discriminating musicians and engineers since 1960. Z-67 covers the widest range of singers and source material. Golden-Ears chose the Swedish Lundahl transformer to create an extra mid-range required to push the vocal slightly forward in a modern mix. Jazz and R&B, even Opera Singers love the Z-67." Hmmm...do we know any Opera singers here? When I did the shoot out at Barbershop Studio's I loved my recording with the M269C on the operatic selection. It was my 2nd favorite in the operatic shoot out.... after the M49C. Funny enough, I felt my Advanced Audio CM49 actually sat comfortably in the middle of those two sonically. It's why I bought the RMS269. For the Crooning shoot out I preferred the U67 to the M269C... again the M49C dominated that shoot out on my voice. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 14, 2022 11:12:57 GMT -6
Here it is. So far I can say I like it better than the Advanced Audio CM251 and my BLUE Bottle Rocket Stage II with the B0 capsule. Looking forward to running it through its paces and testing it next to my TLM 49 and U87ai. http://instagr.am/p/CmKAAb8J7dC |
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Post by mcirish on Dec 14, 2022 12:13:02 GMT -6
I'd be interested in what it sounds like. It certainly looks great.
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 14, 2022 21:42:24 GMT -6
I’ll try and post some clips soon.
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Post by drumsound on Dec 15, 2022 2:36:42 GMT -6
Here it is. So far I can say I like it better than the Advanced Audio CM251 and my BLUE Bottle Rocket Stage II with the B0 capsule. Looking forward to running it through its paces and testing it next to my TLM 49 and U87ai. http://instagr.am/p/CmKAAb8J7dC Seems like a hellofa deal. |
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Post by Ward on Dec 15, 2022 12:21:58 GMT -6
What's the big holiday season sale mentioned on the website?
It's a banner advert that doesn't lead to a sale page . . . just curious!
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 15, 2022 12:38:01 GMT -6
What's the big holiday season sale mentioned on the website? It's a banner advert that doesn't lead to a sale page . . . just curious! Basically ADK has everything is on sale site wide. For some reason they simply brought all the prices down and don't show you the non sale price. Basically, the T-FET series is $100 off and the 3 Zigma Series is like $55 off. I'm not sure about the Z-Mod mics, as I'm not sure what they usually go for. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 15, 2022 22:36:30 GMT -6
I remember trying one of these probably like ten years ago and being impressed. Be interesting to hear these (and other things) a decade later. It’s funny - experience is a great teacher.
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Post by Ward on Dec 16, 2022 16:54:39 GMT -6
What's the big holiday season sale mentioned on the website? It's a banner advert that doesn't lead to a sale page . . . just curious! Basically ADK has everything is on sale site wide. For some reason they simply brought all the prices down and don't show you the non sale price. Basically, the T-FET series is $100 off and the 3 Zigma Series is like $55 off. I'm not sure about the Z-Mod mics, as I'm not sure what they usually go for. Thank you vincent! That clears it up. |
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Post by Ward on Dec 16, 2022 16:56:03 GMT -6
I remember trying one of these probably like ten years ago and being impressed. Be interesting to hear these (and other things) a decade later. It’s funny - experience is a great teacher. Their Z67 is quite M269 like and I wish I had one. They have stood the test of time. Larry also has a personal stash of classics to reference as well. (he did in 2018 anyhow) |
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Post by teejay on Dec 16, 2022 19:20:22 GMT -6
I'd put it in the same camp as the Z-251...a very nice mic. Just didn't fit my vocals. At that point I'd had no other experiences with a "67" style mic. I've since owned the Warm 67 with Neumann capsule (up for sale, by the way) and my recent 017 tube acquisition. If I can locate some of my sample recordings with the ADK I can give you a better comparison...or maybe even post a few things for you, Tony...albeit a lot of the chain and circumstances will be different. Damnit, I have monitors to pay for. I would like to hear the samples. DM'd you. |
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Post by tackhouse on Dec 16, 2022 19:44:00 GMT -6
I just ordered the ADK Frankfurt 49-T. With it’s darker top end profile, I’m hopeful this mic can cover assignments usually given to the C37, or nicer ribbons like the 4038. And of course, expecting this to work well for vocals.
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 16, 2022 20:51:36 GMT -6
I just ordered the ADK Frankfurt 49-T. With it’s darker top end profile, I’m hopeful this mic can cover assignments usually given to the C37, or nicer ribbons like the 4038. And of course, expecting this to work well for vocals. That mic has me curious. Let us know your thoughts when you get it. |
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Post by Ox Han on Dec 17, 2022 19:30:30 GMT -6
Anyone have any clips on overheads?
I’ve been curious how these compare to 3U offerings and vanguard.
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Post by Tbone81 on Dec 17, 2022 20:27:25 GMT -6
It wouldn’t be till January but If you guys want I could probably track some drums though my 67 T-fet, 251t-fet and the z-251?
Let me know and I’ll get some samples.
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Post by Ox Han on Dec 18, 2022 2:05:39 GMT -6
It wouldn’t be till January but If you guys want I could probably track some drums though my 67 T-fet, 251t-fet and the z-251? Let me know and I’ll get some samples. I think we’d all appreciate that |
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Post by chessparov on Dec 31, 2022 14:43:59 GMT -6
So Vincent...
For sake of rough comparison.
If the FLEA 251 is a "10" for relative evaluation.
How high of a number guesstimate, for the Cremona?
Thanks, Chris
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 31, 2022 21:27:39 GMT -6
So Vincent... For sake of rough comparison. If the FLEA 251 is a "10" for relative evaluation. How high of a number guesstimate, for the Cremona? Thanks, Chris When I finally get a demo in my studio I will let you know my thoughts on that comparison. Ultimately, I cannot speak highly enough about the Cremona. It has a beautiful harmonic saturation, really nice highs without being harsh and really deep lows without being woofy. But it’s a FET mic, so it’s always going to be a bit different than a tube equivalent. Seriously though, I should have some time this week to do a little comparison. So far it compares really well with my TLM49. I imagine from the samples I’ve made it will compare really well to my U87ai. Currently my U87ai is an MK67, as I’ve been comparing it to the BeesNeez BU67. So I have to find a moment to switch it back, and between the holidays, concerts, and session work, I’ve just been busy. All that said, it is different than my U87ai and TLM49, which is a good thing. I’m actually very much looking forward to getting my friend Adam in here to try it out. Adam is a basso profundo with a crazy pedal register. He sounds a lot like Thurl Ravenscroft, except that Adam can turn around and suddenly drop another octave. I know Thurl used to use an ELA M 251 a lot, as there are loads of photos of him recording on one. I’ve been trying to help Adam build his first small rig and I think this mic is going to sound great on him. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2023 12:49:51 GMT -6
Just browsing these. Surprised by the low cost. Question if anyone has used these…
I see there’s a “tone color chart” that lists the 49 as the darkest in the line. But if you compare the freq charts of the 49 and the Berlin 47, the 47 should be much darker. The description of the 49 says “ Scooped Upper Mids with a Touch of Air.” Then the crew chart shows a 3db boost at 4khz starting at 2.5 and ending at 6khz. Not what I would call scooped upper mids.
Anyway - I never actually came back around to trying ADK, but I remember liking them the brief time I had with them.
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Post by teejay on Jan 2, 2023 14:24:13 GMT -6
Vincent just picked up the Cremona-251 T (see the ADK Mic Sale thread). Seems he's liking it, with demo clips forthcoming.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2023 17:25:33 GMT -6
So Vincent... For sake of rough comparison. If the FLEA 251 is a "10" for relative evaluation. How high of a number guesstimate, for the Cremona? Thanks, Chris When I finally get a demo in my studio I will let you know my thoughts on that comparison. Ultimately, I cannot speak highly enough about the Cremona. It has a beautiful harmonic saturation, really nice highs without being harsh and really deep lows without being woofy. But it’s a FET mic, so it’s always going to be a bit different than a tube equivalent. Seriously though, I should have some time this week to do a little comparison. So far it compares really well with my TLM49. I imagine from the samples I’ve made it will compare really well to my U87ai. Currently my U87ai is an MK67, as I’ve been comparing it to the BeesNeez BU67. So I have to find a moment to switch it back, and between the holidays, concerts, and session work, I’ve just been busy. All that said, it is different than my U87ai and TLM49, which is a good thing. I’m actually very much looking forward to getting my friend Adam in here to try it out. Adam is a basso profundo with a crazy pedal register. He sounds a lot like Thurl Ravenscroft, except that Adam can turn around and suddenly drop another octave. I know Thurl used to use an ELA M 251 a lot, as there are loads of photos of him recording on one. I’ve been trying to help Adam build his first small rig and I think this mic is going to sound great on him. Thurl Ravenscroft - was he in Harry Potter? I keed Tagging on here. Just noticed these Fet mics and had no idea they were this cheap. Anyway - the Berliner is the one with the most rolled off top end per freq charts…but that’s not how they describe them. Weird. I’ll merge the thread I made about it into this one. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 2, 2023 18:05:59 GMT -6
Johnkenn, the Berlin 47 is also the darkest sounding per the clips that have been posted. Much darker than the Frankfurt 49 clips. It seems that is why they have a new 47 offering they are calling the Munich 7. 47: 49:
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