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Post by subspace on Dec 31, 2020 7:37:16 GMT -6
Carbon has control for 3 monitor pairs, the dedicated TRS plus outs 1-4 on the DSUB. Existing interface in the studio is a MOTU 16A, which will still be used for 16 i/o over ADAT with Carbon, should be interesting comparing the two. Set up a 24 track template with a Brainworx SSL 9000 J on each channel using 7 of the 8 DSP, looking forward to tracking through the set-up. Wow I watched both videos on Carbon and clearly missed that lol So are all 3 level matches & controllable mon outputs via software & front panel or just SW? Either way that’s great news! Excited to hear what you think of the sound quality. Idk if it’s me but I would be a little nervous running multiple interfaces. So if you clock the Motu off the Carbon & you record 24 inputs will they all be sample accurate aligned in Pro Tools edit window? Is there any other process needed for sample accurate recording thru both interfaces? The three monitor select buttons are on the front panel to the left of the monitor volume. Pro Tools hardware set-up lets you enable up to three of the output pairs for monitor control with mute and dim buttons to the right of the volume encoder. The MOTU will run as a stand-alone analog-to-ADAT/ADAT-to-analog box, so not connected as a second interface, just slaved to WC for conversion. You have to enter the conversion delay into hardware set-up for everything after the ADAT ports just like any other external converter with Pro Tools, all the built-in conversion is already aligned. Moved it out to the studio on Monday and tested it recording stand-alone in the tracking room with eight drum mics. Just headphone monitoring out there, but first impression on playback was these preamps are going to be all I need on location for choral and orchestral work. The Audient's were my first call for acoustic instruments and overheads but the honeymoon is strong on these, so I moved Carbon to the control room to start wiring it in for a direct comparison without moving the mics. Had a quick session on Tuesday morning so I just booted the new Catalina partition with PT 2020.12 installed and tried it with the MOTU 16A, which worked perfectly. I then had to run and pick-up a truck to move our theatre company into a new space, which has been a full court press for the last 48 hours, hoping to get back into the studio later today or on New Year's Day for some direct comparisons. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 1, 2021 0:22:39 GMT -6
Avid probably should have done this years if not a couple of decades ago! If you don’t need a bunch of I/O, want to run PT with low latency and some plugins this is awesome. Wonder when we will see a Blacklion Modded version? I laffed |
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Post by ericn on Jan 4, 2021 14:21:30 GMT -6
A couple of us were talking during the Chiefs loss and Packer win yesterday about this, we all agreed we liked the idea of PT Carbon. You could describe all of us as “former PT power users”, who have all moved on. We all kind of wish Avid had taken the next 2 steps with it; Step #1 learn from RADAR, your own live consoles and large scale Euphonix Console/ Controllers, put the [email protected] CPU in the box! Look AVID has wanted to sell turnkey systems since they bought Didgidesign here is not only the chance but the perfect product, you could even look at it as a HDX level product for MI dealers support would all be through AVID. Plus if you used a small Chip you would need to use all DSP based plugins like on the live systems, they are priced higher. Step #2 if you implement step 1, run the controller GUI on IPad, Android and surface! Think about it going back to TDM Avids DSP systems have primarily used the host as A PSU, chassis and GUI! Sure put a Video monitor out on it but a IPAD sure makes a great wireless controller! Suddenly Carbon would move into the market of larger Sound Devices systems have dominated ! The only other real gripe was that everybody would have preferred that the 16 ch of ADAT I/O was card based so that one could choose their preference ( yeah none of us really like ADAT light pipe) AES, MADI, Dante are so less problematic and so much more professional, hell 24 ch of TDIF would probably make me a buyer, all of us old RADAR owners would probably buy in. |
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Post by EmRR on Jan 4, 2021 15:21:53 GMT -6
ADAT with high sample rates is such a F’in nightmare. Never seen a switch between low and high rates happen without blowing up routing configuration.
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Post by ericn on Jan 4, 2021 15:24:18 GMT -6
ADAT with high sample rates is such a F’in nightmare. Never seen a switch between low and high rates happen without blowing up routing configuration. The only 2 reasons for it are it’s cheap and minimal space on the rear. |
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Post by mulmany on Jan 4, 2021 22:40:14 GMT -6
ADAT with high sample rates is such a F’in nightmare. Never seen a switch between low and high rates happen without blowing up routing configuration. The only 2 reasons for it are it’s cheap and minimal space on the rear. And it makes the spec I/O count look good! |
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Post by subspace on Jan 12, 2021 0:24:04 GMT -6
Toyed with 3 different mounting configurations, finally settled on adding it to the preamp/EQ rack. Was running a Logic session and flipping back and forth between the Carbon monitor outs and it's ADAT outs feeding the MOTU 16A conversion, both hitting parallel returns on the Audient monitor controller. The Carbon is a nice step-up in resolution, vocals and ambience have more depth and detail, bass lines have a girth to them whereas on the MOTU I'd say they were defined but flatter sounding.
Have all the Dsubs wired up now and I hear no difference between the monitor outs and 8 line outs, on to shooting out the ADCs!
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