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Post by hadaja on Feb 28, 2021 16:38:09 GMT -6
Keep using them and save for the AS Opto in the meantime.
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Post by brenta on Feb 28, 2021 21:37:29 GMT -6
So...we're a year or so later with the KT2A. I'm an owner and wonder how it's held up with other owners. I use it often and in the bang for buck category it's hard to beat. However, lately I'm wondering if I should improve the sound with a new cell and/or tubes. Has anyone gone done that road? The other option would be to use that money towards an Audioscape Opto. But that presents a bit of a timing challenge as I'm currently mixing a couple of important projects. Opinions? I know you have 'em! I'm still loving mine. It's almost always on the bass chain and occasionally gets used on vocals. I've thought about changing tubes or the cell but haven't done it. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 1, 2021 5:28:20 GMT -6
A lot of people have a lot of less than glowing things to say about the KT76 and KT2a, but they do a remarkable job of emulating the 1981 Vestax Distortion guitar pedal! Total bonus.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 1, 2021 10:56:40 GMT -6
A lot of people have a lot of less than glowing things to say about the KT76 and KT2a, but they do a remarkable job of emulating the 1981 Vestax Distortion guitar pedal! Total bonus. I'm not going to say my KT76 is awesome, but it's definitely not a Vestax Distortion pedal. It's definitely a usable unit. |
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Post by brenta on Mar 1, 2021 11:24:05 GMT -6
A lot of people have a lot of less than glowing things to say about the KT76 and KT2a, but they do a remarkable job of emulating the 1981 Vestax Distortion guitar pedal! Total bonus. I'm not going to say my KT76 is awesome, but it's definitely not a Vestax Distortion pedal. It's definitely a usable unit. Agreed. On the contrary, most of the complaints I've seen about the KT76 is that it sounds too clean. I need to shoot it out with my Aphex 651 to see which sounds cleaner and more transparent. The KT2A on the other hand does have a lot of color to it. It adds warmth and girth to bass and enhances the low end, so it pretty much lives on my bass chain. I usually don't find it the best choice for vocals, but last week I was mixing a song that featured a sibilant male singing in falsetto; it worked great for that track. Considering how cheap I got them for, the KT compressors are a couple of the best bang for the buck pieces in my studio. |
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Post by theshea on Mar 1, 2021 11:28:27 GMT -6
sometimes i prefer my kt76 over my stam adg, if i want something cleaner with more highs. and with all buttons in it smashes drum rooms more aggressively than the stam. so it has its uses and for tracking it gets used quiet a lot. a real bargain for the money.
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Post by ragan on Mar 1, 2021 11:32:02 GMT -6
A lot of people have a lot of less than glowing things to say about the KT76 and KT2a, but they do a remarkable job of emulating the 1981 Vestax Distortion guitar pedal! Total bonus. I'm not going to say my KT76 is awesome, but it's definitely not a Vestax Distortion pedal. It's definitely a usable unit. It’s an 1176. Does it sound as sweet as an original or some higher priced clones? No. Does it still sound pretty good and function like an 1176? Hell yeah. There ain’t that much to an 1176 and, fortunately, the electrons aren’t as snobby or dogmatic as we humans are. They don’t care about pedigree. |
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Post by ericn on Mar 1, 2021 11:32:06 GMT -6
A lot of people have a lot of less than glowing things to say about the KT76 and KT2a, but they do a remarkable job of emulating the 1981 Vestax Distortion guitar pedal! Total bonus. While there is a lot to hate about the KT clones, I have to say you can’t sit back and ignore the concept of what Behringer could do if they raised the price point and really tried. Because that’s always been the scariest thing about Behringer they always do a passable job at a much lower price point, their size,design talent, and world wide distribution chain could build a better cheaper clone and everybody in the buisness knows it. So what keeps them from doing it? Probably their market research shows that the numbers just are not there if you jump to even the price point of say Warm. |
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Post by mamm7215 on Mar 1, 2021 14:55:55 GMT -6
I find the KT-76 is fine as is for what it is. The 2A I have I use stock on vocals and bass mostly. If I was to upgrade it I'd put better tubes in the audio path and a real Kenetek Opto. Otherwise, again for the price, there's nothing really wrong with it. It doesn't destroy audio to my ears.
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Post by reddirt on Mar 1, 2021 20:44:16 GMT -6
The mongrels have no shame ; i just noticed they've copied the Beyer 770 headphones down to the same lighter coloured ear pads and using 770 in the title.
Sorry if this skews the thread ; I wanted to get it off my chest.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by ericn on Mar 1, 2021 21:11:18 GMT -6
The mongrels have no shame ; i just noticed they've copied the Beyer 770 headphones down to the same lighter coloured ear pads and using 770 in the title. Sorry if this skews the thread ; I wanted to get it off my chest. Cheers, Ross Of course the one thing they probably didn’t nail, well I guess 2 parts, are the drivers! Personally I don’t care if they look exactly like Beyer as long as they sound good! Uhli sells more from pictures. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 2, 2021 9:06:08 GMT -6
The mongrels have no shame ; i just noticed they've copied the Beyer 770 headphones down to the same lighter coloured ear pads and using 770 in the title. Sorry if this skews the thread ; I wanted to get it off my chest. Cheers, Ross Of course the one thing they probably didn’t nail, well I guess 2 parts, are the drivers! Personally I don’t care if they look exactly like Beyer as long as they sound good! Uhli sells more from pictures. Your humor will be lost on some contributors to this thread.  |
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Post by dok on Jan 16, 2024 19:24:48 GMT -6
Agreed. On the contrary, most of the complaints I've seen about the KT76 is that it sounds too clean. I need to shoot it out with my Aphex 651 to see which sounds cleaner and more transparent. Necro thread! Current 651 owner here thinking about the KT76. Did you ever get around to shooting out the two? Wondering if I should bother changing it up - my one issue with the 651 is that it's really easy to dial in too much compression once you start actually lighting up the meters, and since I'm using this for only tracking I need to be super careful. |
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Post by copperx on Jan 16, 2024 23:48:34 GMT -6
Agreed. On the contrary, most of the complaints I've seen about the KT76 is that it sounds too clean. I need to shoot it out with my Aphex 651 to see which sounds cleaner and more transparent. Necro thread! Current 651 owner here thinking about the KT76. Did you ever get around to shooting out the two? Wondering if I should bother changing it up - my one issue with the 651 is that it's really easy to dial in too much compression once you start actually lighting up the meters, and since I'm using this for only tracking I need to be super careful. As someone interested in both the 651 and kt76, I would like to know this too. Tangential -- if the 1178 is like a cleaner 76 (I never heard an 1178), is the kt76 closer to a mono 1178 than to an 1176? |
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 17, 2024 2:07:40 GMT -6
I have got some nice pieces in my racks.
Retro, Coil, Thermionic, BAE, Crane Song. I think they’re special sounding bits of kit. Sound expensive and were expensive.
But I’ve equally been very impressed by Audioscape and Wes Audio who seem to provide a boutique philosophy at a medium price point - great builds with no compromise components.
I think Warm Audio and Behringer should start a second line of clones that go for a more boutique higher end build and sonic approach for more money but not high end money.
I’d imagine they would be very good sellers, AS and Wes can pull it off in this segment of the market.
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Post by doubledog on Jan 17, 2024 8:48:12 GMT -6
I've had a Lindell LiN76 and LiN2A in my rack for about a year now and been enjoying them. I use them mostly for tracking though. I've got a 2A-KT as well that I recently modded (Kenetek opto, tube swap and the output cap) and I still think I like the LiN2A a little better in most cases (it tends to put a little more shine on tracks where as the KT sounds a bit dull sometimes - but it may be the right fit sometimes too).
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Post by Ward on Jan 17, 2024 11:44:47 GMT -6
SNIP I think Warm Audio and Behringer should start a second line of clones that go for a more boutique higher end build and sonic approach for more money but not high end money. SNIP You're not the only one who has had those thoughts or said them to Bryce several times, and to think he had cdkelly on staff . . . ideal time to launch Warmer Audio |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 17, 2024 12:00:28 GMT -6
There seem to be two different model designations for the 76-KT.
76-KT and 1176-KT. Are these different? Maybe one is pre-Behringer? For whatever reason the 76-KT seems to be going for a lot more used at Guitar Center used site but that could just be because they're idiots. It's 2x the price of new 1176-KT.
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 17, 2024 12:07:53 GMT -6
There seem to be two different model designations for the 76-KT. 76-KT and 1176-KT. Are these different? Maybe one is pre-Behringer? For whatever reason the 76-KT seems to be going for a lot more used at Guitar Center used site but that could just be because they're idiots. It's 2x the price of new 1176-KT. [br Pretty sure it’s identical! |
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 17, 2024 12:12:50 GMT -6
And there is no pre Behringer kt 1176!
It’s always been Behringer so I don’t see why it would be any kind of collectible item.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 17, 2024 12:14:03 GMT -6
And there is no pre Behringer kt 1176! It’s always been Behringer so I don’t see why it would be any kind of collectible item. Got it. So GC are idiots which we all already knew. Sounds like somebody got one hell of a trade-in for their 1176-KT! Good for that person whoever they are!! |
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Post by enlav on Jan 17, 2024 13:37:45 GMT -6
And there is no pre Behringer kt 1176! It’s always been Behringer so I don’t see why it would be any kind of collectible item. Got it. So GC are idiots which we all already knew. Sounds like somebody got one hell of a trade-in for their 1176-KT! Good for that person whoever they are!! Good lord, one was tagged at 699.99 originally. Depending on that store's policies, they could have gotten anywhere between 350 and 420 dollars. Just wow.
I know these Klark Teknik 76 and 2a units were price hiked at one point for whatever reason, but there's no way it was ever high enough for a reasonable employee to ever give up that much for the 76...
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 17, 2024 14:01:48 GMT -6
Got it. So GC are idiots which we all already knew. Sounds like somebody got one hell of a trade-in for their 1176-KT! Good for that person whoever they are!! Good lord, one was tagged at 699.99 originally. Depending on that store's policies, they could have gotten anywhere between 350 and 420 dollars. Just wow.
I know these Klark Teknik 76 and 2a units were price hiked at one point for whatever reason, but there's no way it was ever high enough for a reasonable employee to ever give up that much for the 76...
Haha, right? See why I was asking? Maybe it's one of the modded ones and they didn't mark it correctly. Who knows. |
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Post by vintagelove on Jan 17, 2024 14:11:35 GMT -6
I think the 2a is an excellent first compressor for someone. It only has a couple knobs, so it's hard to screw anything up too bad, and it has enough of a sound to make it worth using to add some color. For the price, you really can't ask for more.
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Post by notneeson on Jan 17, 2024 14:24:13 GMT -6
Good lord, one was tagged at 699.99 originally. Depending on that store's policies, they could have gotten anywhere between 350 and 420 dollars. Just wow.
I know these Klark Teknik 76 and 2a units were price hiked at one point for whatever reason, but there's no way it was ever high enough for a reasonable employee to ever give up that much for the 76...
Haha, right? See why I was asking? Maybe it's one of the modded ones and they didn't mark it correctly. Who knows. I bought one new for like 160 euros from Thomann when they came out. And I’m US based. Not a bad box by any means. |
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