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Post by drbill on Jan 19, 2020 12:57:06 GMT -6
Yeh I'm surprised to hear people actually like these things. I haven't heard them myself in person. Puuurfect. Exactly the kind of helpful advice we need. As mentioned, I've got both the KT2a and a hand built Drip 2a with the best components we could buy including Sowters, hand picked T4B's, hand picked NOS tubes, and they are more SIMILAR than they are different. Both equally relevant and good sounding. KT being more modern sounding. Drip being a little gooier for lack of a better term. I can tell you, from much experience, that I have way, WAY, WAAAAY less trouble with the KT than I do with the Drip - which I never know if it's going to sound good, work or be cal'd the way it was the day before. And no, I didn't build it myself. I had a great builder build it for me..... I dunno. Maybe try before dissing? Just a thought. The KT's are excellent. And not just "for the money".
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Post by soundintheround on Jan 19, 2020 13:00:45 GMT -6
Alright I apologize!.....Whatever it takes to make this forum not become like that other one! So much better here Sorry guys. I just wanted to share my feedback based on what I HAVE personally heard in terms of the MIDAS transformers, which I did not like.
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Post by ericn on Jan 19, 2020 17:33:38 GMT -6
Alright I apologize!.....Whatever it takes to make this forum not become like that other one! So much better here Sorry guys. I just wanted to share my feedback based on what I HAVE personally heard in terms of the MIDAS transformers, which I did not like. I get that you did not like the Midas transformers, but I don’t think you mentioned which Midas transformers you didn’t care for. This is important because it’s just to easy to use dis a manufacturer based on on model that has nothing to do with another.
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Post by soundintheround on Jan 19, 2020 17:41:37 GMT -6
Alright I apologize!.....Whatever it takes to make this forum not become like that other one! So much better here Sorry guys. I just wanted to share my feedback based on what I HAVE personally heard in terms of the MIDAS transformers, which I did not like. I get that you did not like the Midas transformers, but I don’t think you mentioned which Midas transformers you didn’t care for. This is important because it’s just to easy to use dis a manufacturer based on on model that has nothing to do with another. Point taken. I forget which one... Ok carry on.
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Post by jamiesego on Jan 19, 2020 17:43:29 GMT -6
I saw somewhere recently that the SMD fets in the KT76 can overheat slightly and cause gain reduction even without audio input. I don’t know if that would cause any actual issues during recording though.
Would anyone care to share some gut shots? I would be curious to know how difficult transformer swaps would be.
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Post by jamiesego on Jan 19, 2020 17:53:22 GMT -6
Also, I think it would be awesome if manufacturers moved back to a plugin design for transformers like old Altec gear or the Coil stuff.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 19, 2020 18:09:55 GMT -6
It makes me feel bad if my question generates negative vibes - now.
I use the compressors in my private studio, not in a professional context where downtime would be an issue. If these are no good, I'll send them back.
I had made very good experience with the ART PRO VLA 2. It sounds incredibly good. Becasue Uli Behringer promissed better QC, 2 years ago, the KT question made sense to me.
If I want that LA2A sound I have to ask friends. If the KT2A is a bit similar, has a little LA2A vibe - I am happy.
The goal is to get more classic hardware vibe on the way into the box, but with a limited amount of tools. I asked myself why not a second #76 and a dream would be something #LA2Aish....
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For the rest of the topic. I am pretty sure that they can produce qualtiy audio-transformers in china at a tiny fraction of the costs compared to the EU/USA. If not, its a reason to swap them.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 19, 2020 21:07:42 GMT -6
I saw somewhere recently that the SMD fets in the KT76 can overheat slightly and cause gain reduction even without audio input. I don’t know if that would cause any actual issues during recording though. Would anyone care to share some gut shots? I would be curious to know how difficult transformer swaps would be. imgur.com/a/rwMaP
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Post by cyrano on Jan 20, 2020 14:04:17 GMT -6
I saw somewhere recently that the SMD fets in the KT76 can overheat slightly and cause gain reduction even without audio input. I don’t know if that would cause any actual issues during recording though. Best one I heard in a long time
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 17:33:45 GMT -6
I had a kt76 and I liked it. Sold to one of my friends. I'm happy using plugins though (BX Opto and Acme Opticom). The kt-2a is great though. The price is insane and it came w/a 10 year warranty. Behringer has excellent customer service in my experience too. Thumbs up.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 31, 2020 10:40:22 GMT -6
Insane it's for all units....
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Post by gwlee7 on Feb 1, 2020 9:19:49 GMT -6
Kinda like saying I’ve never been in that particular model of Ford Fiesta, but I know the engine very well and it’s a POS Hey now, go easy on the Ford Fiesta. That was my first new car. It cost $4500 stripped down with no AC and no radio. Remove the bottom slat on the right side of the hatch to reveal the “trunk” and you put a regular sized, tapped keg in an iced trash can upright in the back and close the hatch. Lightweight and with dual front wheel drive, practically impossible to get stuck. It was a teenaged party machine. ETA: This is pretty much what mine looked like.
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Post by soundintheround on Feb 3, 2020 14:03:55 GMT -6
I own a Ford Fiesta! How else do you think I buy all my gear. Easy decision for me. Priorities
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Post by deehope on Feb 3, 2020 14:32:39 GMT -6
KT2a is good. Very good. A modern sounding LA2a. More muscular, clearer. But just as good. Different. There's room for both in my racks. this means a lot coming from you. It just got bumped up my list.
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Post by deehope on Jun 17, 2020 12:17:52 GMT -6
KT2a is good. Very good. A modern sounding LA2a. More muscular, clearer. But just as good. Different. There's room for both in my racks. between this and the jlm la500 what would be your pick. Especially when it comes to size and fighting digititis?
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Post by drbill on Jun 17, 2020 12:25:06 GMT -6
KT2a is good. Very good. A modern sounding LA2a. More muscular, clearer. But just as good. Different. There's room for both in my racks. between this and the jlm la500 what would be your pick. Especially when it comes to size and fighting digititis? Not sure. Kind of a tossup.
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Post by deehope on Jun 17, 2020 12:27:18 GMT -6
between this and the jlm la500 what would be your pick. Especially when it comes to size and fighting digititis? Not sure. Kind of a tossup. thx that actually puts the kt-2a over the top. Dont have to build it and can get it locally. Is the la500 a bit faster?
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jun 18, 2020 14:11:24 GMT -6
KT2a is good. Very good. A modern sounding LA2a. More muscular, clearer. But just as good. Different. There's room for both in my racks. this means a lot coming from you. It just got bumped up my list. I also have a pair of the KT-2As. Im very happy with them as well. Hard to go wrong for that kind of money.
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Post by deehope on Jun 18, 2020 15:45:22 GMT -6
this means a lot coming from you. It just got bumped up my list. I also have a pair of the KT-2As. Im very happy with them as well. Hard to go wrong for that kind of money. I just missed a b stock for $288... that is bloody insanity!!!!!
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Post by audioscape on Jun 18, 2020 17:26:51 GMT -6
...just wanted to say - thanks for all the kind words y'all!!! Love it.
TBH - do whatever best fits your budget and level of obsession in getting a unit that sounds JUST like a much more expensive, vintage "xyz thing".
There is room for all!!! ;-)
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Post by deehope on Jun 18, 2020 17:42:20 GMT -6
...just wanted to say - thanks for all the kind words y'all!!! Love it. TBH - do whatever best fits your budget and level of obsession in getting a unit that sounds JUST like a much more expensive, vintage "xyz thing". There is room for all!!! ;-) i keep checking your site but the buss comp is always sold out lol
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Post by drbill on Jun 18, 2020 17:45:39 GMT -6
...just wanted to say - thanks for all the kind words y'all!!! Love it. TBH - do whatever best fits your budget and level of obsession in getting a unit that sounds JUST like a much more expensive, vintage "xyz thing". There is room for all!!! ;-) If I was starting over from the beginning on my 2a journey, no doubt I would choose the AS. My custom built 2a's are great, the KT2a is cool, but bang for the buck, the AS is the way to go now I think. Still wish they were 2RU though.... heh heh
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Post by audioscape on Jun 18, 2020 21:26:30 GMT -6
...just wanted to say - thanks for all the kind words y'all!!! Love it. TBH - do whatever best fits your budget and level of obsession in getting a unit that sounds JUST like a much more expensive, vintage "xyz thing". There is room for all!!! ;-) If I was starting over from the beginning on my 2a journey, no doubt I would choose the AS. My custom built 2a's are great, the KT2a is cool, but bang for the buck, the AS is the way to go now I think. Still wish they were 2RU though.... heh heh THANK YOU for that!! We're super proud of our OPTO COMP... suppose there's a reason they sell out within 1 minute every-time we put them up for sale - just like the BUSS COMP, 76A, 76F, EQP, MEQ, V-COMP, et al.... LOL We knowwwwww you value your precious real-estate!!! BUT - you'll be all the happier when our 500-series modules start getting released... Just received a BUNCH of front panels/cases for the V3A so that will be released VERY soon as well front panels/cases for our first preamp, 500-series as well.... AND - 2 samples cases for our new "low barrier to entry" product - super useful, but with some neat options that aren't often found on a _ _ Box ;-) SHHHHHHH!
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Post by teejay on Jun 18, 2020 22:09:06 GMT -6
...just wanted to say - thanks for all the kind words y'all!!! Love it. TBH - do whatever best fits your budget and level of obsession in getting a unit that sounds JUST like a much more expensive, vintage "xyz thing". There is room for all!!! ;-) If I was starting over from the beginning on my 2a journey, no doubt I would choose the AS. My custom built 2a's are great, the KT2a is cool, but bang for the buck, the AS is the way to go now I think. Still wish they were 2RU though.... heh heh AS is exactly how I started my 2A journey. And the beautiful thing is the journey is also over. With AS I’ve arrived. Same for my BUSS Comp “journey”!
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 19, 2020 5:39:44 GMT -6
Well being that MIDAS transformers are used in them, and if you know anything about compressors that’s a HUGE part of their sound, I guess I felt like I had something to contribute to the OP. I mean I think it's been pretty clear that the kt2a does not sound like an la2a really at all. But it does not sound bad and is a perfectly good optical compressor. Not the right unit if you want vibe in spades. But it is good. Just different.
And with this is nothing wrong in a world which is spoiled by options. The day I heard the brainworx ACME Optical plug in, it was clear that this one is another option.
The only question that remains is:
Is it healthy to drown in all the options.
My personal answer to this is NO... keep options away from me I need to finish Songs.
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