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Post by mrholmes on Jan 15, 2020 19:05:33 GMT -6
RGOs.
I mentoined it in various posts.
I am downsizing my space for several reasons
I sold a lot of gear not only studio gear.... guitars etc.
I did let go everything unused for years.
Another reasons is, taht my old argument -that only hardware can do the trick- is not a truth for all times.
Special with some of the latest plug ins .... my yaw was dropping too often to the ground in double blind testing.
I kept what I use very often.
Warm 76 and two 1073s.
And some SPL gear and one TL Audio Compressor which I am in doubt to let it go.
I would love to have two too three classic compressors in my rack, but we neeed to save some money becasue we are not getting younger and thats why I ask about the super cheap China clones even if I would love to buy better clones.
I hate to buy Chineese but there is an economic truth for the future... we need to save now for retirement....
Want a second 76.
I wonder if the KT2A sounds anything like an LA2A or is it a unit with too manny corners cut?
THx for your opinions...
Cheers Holmes
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 15, 2020 19:25:26 GMT -6
My KT2A is good. But it does not sound like a real LA2A. Not as thick, rich, and gooey. But does the job fine.
Can't speak on the KT76 but I'd recommend an Audioscape or Hairball one for sure.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 15, 2020 19:33:37 GMT -6
My KT2A is good. But it does not sound like a real LA2A. Not as thick, rich, and gooey. But does the job fine. Can't speak on the KT76 but I'd recommend an Audioscape or Hairball one for sure. Puh yes the real LA2A is 4.6 K I doubt I want swing this amount of cash... for home use only. |
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Post by drbill on Jan 15, 2020 20:17:19 GMT -6
KT2a is good. Very good. A modern sounding LA2a. More muscular, clearer. But just as good. Different. There's room for both in my racks.
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Post by hadaja on Jan 15, 2020 21:30:32 GMT -6
I have both and they are very usable. Quite impressed with kt76 . The quality of knobs and metering made me sell my warm unit. Plus the 1176 sound is there in spades.
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Post by 000 on Jan 15, 2020 21:30:41 GMT -6
I swapped the tubes and optical cell in my KT2A. Definitely adds more tube gooeyness and changed the attack and release to more of what I would expect from an LA2A.
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Post by notneeson on Jan 15, 2020 21:38:11 GMT -6
I have both. Nice in series on vocals. The KT2A is especially great. The 76 seems a bit cleaner than how I recall vintage 76s, but haven’t done any direct comparisons.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 15, 2020 23:45:12 GMT -6
KT76 is equivalent to the Warm IMO. I have both and would sell my Warm and buy another KT if I knew I would pocket a hundo.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 16, 2020 0:39:52 GMT -6
My KT2A is good. But it does not sound like a real LA2A. Not as thick, rich, and gooey. But does the job fine. Can't speak on the KT76 but I'd recommend an Audioscape or Hairball one for sure. Puh yes the real LA2A is 4.6 K I doubt I want swing this amount of cash... for home use only. Considering you could get 11 kt2a's for that money I'd say you'rr better off with the kt! It is nice. I've been very interested in swapping parts out in mine. Just haven't gotten around to it. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jan 16, 2020 1:04:27 GMT -6
Another vote for the KT-2A. Not to mention they have a stereo link, and also has a 'preemphasis' which lets you control how much high end passes before the comp reacts.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 16, 2020 3:38:38 GMT -6
I swapped the tubes and optical cell in my KT2A. Definitely adds more tube gooeyness and changed the attack and release to more of what I would expect from an LA2A.
An Opto cell can cost a few hundred? And which one is the right one?
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Post by brenta on Jan 16, 2020 6:48:56 GMT -6
I’ve got both as well and like them.
KT-2A: If you are looking for something that sounds exactly like an LA2A, you will be sorely disappointed. But if you are looking for a great sounding opto compressor, you will be delighted. I love it on bass.
KT76: as mentioned it sounds cleaner than an 1176. I use them to do the heavy lifting for controlling dynamics during tracking, then use an 1176 plugin shaving off a couple more dB to add more color when mixing. Works great.
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Post by drsax on Jan 16, 2020 7:17:31 GMT -6
KT2a is an incredible value. And sounds great. I’ve got and ADL1500 that I’ve had for 15 years. It sounds good in its own right, but is on the cleaner brighter side of the 2a spectrum. The KT2a is warmer and rounder than the ADL. I’ve got a some really high end tube comps and the KT2a still sees a fair bit of use.
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Post by 000 on Jan 16, 2020 8:18:45 GMT -6
I swapped the tubes and optical cell in my KT2A. Definitely adds more tube gooeyness and changed the attack and release to more of what I would expect from an LA2A.
An Opto cell can cost a few hundred? And which one is the right one?
I went with the kenetek (which I’m fairly certain a lot of the popular “clone” guys around here are using). It was about $100 and worth it IMO. |
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Post by askomiko on Jan 16, 2020 9:18:57 GMT -6
How about Klark KT2a versus the Golden age project Comp2a. You'd fit 2 Golden age comps in same rack space as one Klark.
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Post by ericn on Jan 16, 2020 12:28:47 GMT -6
For the money and if you look at it for what they are pretty damn good!
If you want either historically correct or nailing the Sonics of the original s you need to look some where other than here and spend lots more $$.
Now before most of you were deep into recording we were happy to have Anthony Demaria and others building clones as best they could for a lot more money that other than BAE & Purple didn’t nail the mark either. I wouldn’t be upset to walk into a studio that said it had La2’s 1176’s and Pultecs in the racks as I would to here they had an SSL and find a 6.
Me, I have the time and enough ability that I personally would probably spend a bit more and go DIY, but If I didn’t, even Considering my branding of current KT owner Behringer the evil empire, I’d probably bite on these.
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Post by drbill on Jan 16, 2020 13:08:32 GMT -6
That's what I did a few years ago Eric. I threw all the money I needed to get "the best" DIY recreation many think possible. Cost quite a bit. And honestly, I like the KT2a just as much. It's not identical to my DIY, but it definitely is similar and holds it's own. |
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 16, 2020 16:21:23 GMT -6
Thanks for all the opinions.
I think the risk to not like the budget gear is low because the investment is low too...
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Post by Ward on Jan 19, 2020 10:11:14 GMT -6
RGOs. SNIP..... I would love to have two too three classic compressors in my rack, but we neeed to save some money becasue we are not getting younger and thats why I ask about the super cheap China clones even if I would love to buy better clones. I hate to buy Chineese but there is an economic truth for the future... we need to save now for retirement.... Want a second 76. SNIP.... With all my might I STRONGLY suggest you go and buy from audioscape or Chandler. The Blare-inger stuff does not sound like the real thing at all. JMHO |
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Post by tasteliketape on Jan 19, 2020 10:43:40 GMT -6
Audio Scape great gear , and definitely the kind of people you want to do business with!
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Post by soundintheround on Jan 19, 2020 11:08:02 GMT -6
Yeh I'm surprised to hear people actually like these things.
I haven't heard them myself in person, but I have heard MIDAS transformers and not a huge fan.
Behringer might be able to pull of a Mini Moog re-issue that sounds similar and fun to mess with, but at this level of nuance for audio rack gear, I would think you'd want something of higher quality.
I'd go the STAM/Audioscape/Similar route or better yet the UA re-issues, as they have gotten reasonable on the used market now due to all the competition.
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Post by 000 on Jan 19, 2020 12:34:07 GMT -6
I haven't heard them myself in person, but... There used to be a time where I would read comments like these and say something along the lines of “well you should really try them out -they’re great!” But now I’m more in the camp of - if you want to come to conclusions about something before even actually using/hearing it - then your mind is already made up and it’s a pointless discussion. |
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Post by soundintheround on Jan 19, 2020 12:37:47 GMT -6
Well being that MIDAS transformers are used in them, and if you know anything about compressors that’s a HUGE part of their sound, I guess I felt like I had something to contribute to the OP.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 19, 2020 12:40:00 GMT -6
Well being that MIDAS transformers are used in them, and if you know anything about compressors that’s a HUGE part of their sound, I guess I felt like I had something to contribute to the OP. I mean I think it's been pretty clear that the kt2a does not sound like an la2a really at all. But it does not sound bad and is a perfectly good optical compressor. Not the right unit if you want vibe in spades. But it is good. Just different. |
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Post by soundintheround on Jan 19, 2020 12:42:58 GMT -6
Kinda like saying I’ve never been in that particular model of Ford Fiesta, but I know the engine very well and it’s a POS
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