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Post by Quint on Oct 24, 2019 21:35:18 GMT -6
This could be really cool, certainly at least for situations where you want to record a live band but don't want issues with bleed. I've really liked every other Strymon product I've tried. I also really like the simplicity of it. www.strymon.net/products/iridium/
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 25, 2019 3:51:18 GMT -6
I’d like to hear it next to a Kemper. I really only use a couple of profiles anyways, so this may be of interest if it sounds comparable.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 25, 2019 6:08:09 GMT -6
The sound quality seems very good even in YT video? Obviously, way more affordable.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 25, 2019 9:53:05 GMT -6
I’d like to hear it next to a Kemper. I really only use a couple of profiles anyways, so this may be of interest if it sounds comparable. I didn’t really think the sounds were very different. Have you seen the AxeFX FM3 that’s coming out? Basically the AFX3 in pedal form. $999
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Post by jamiesego on Oct 25, 2019 12:11:25 GMT -6
Demos seem pretty good. I love my Flint. I could definitely be interested in this.
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Post by popmann on Oct 25, 2019 12:12:49 GMT -6
I thought it sounded damn good--maybe this will get the other boys and girls to use HD digital for their models.
This has a HUGE advantage for a player used to driving tube amps--the tone stack is actually a tone stack and it functions like the original amps. If you tell me you want "that sound" only with this other guitar--I'm going to have to change the tone stack, which a profiler can't do. Of course other modellers do...but, they sort of suck at doing it authentically...listen to how he talks about the bass knob on the Vox and diming the tone stack of the Marshall...at least he is TRYING to do it correctly.
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 25, 2019 14:04:03 GMT -6
I’d like to hear it next to a Kemper. I really only use a couple of profiles anyways, so this may be of interest if it sounds comparable. I didn’t really think the sounds were very different. Have you seen the AxeFX FM3 that’s coming out? Basically the AFX3 in pedal form. $999 I'll have to check that out.
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Post by sirthought on Oct 26, 2019 21:05:32 GMT -6
From what I heard it was impressive. I'd like one in the studio.
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Post by shoe on Oct 26, 2019 23:10:01 GMT -6
I thought the demos sounded pretty good. It seems a little on the bright side in all the strymon demos, but then some of the ones done by other people don't seem to be this way. Not sure what to think about that.
Not an instant buy for me right now, but I might be interested to try it down the line and plug in to the DI on some of my preamps to see if it gets reasonably close to my amp miked up.
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Post by drbill on Oct 26, 2019 23:20:09 GMT -6
Iridium into Zod DI into Coil CA70S..... I'm dying to try that.....
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Post by sirthought on Oct 27, 2019 2:51:45 GMT -6
I thought the demos sounded pretty good. It seems a little on the bright side in all the strymon demos, but then some of the ones done by other people don't seem to be this way. Not sure what to think about that. There is a tone knob for that. It's probably just what the folks dialed it in at. Or...maybe someone mastered all the footage for Strymon before it went onto YouTube. That seems plausible. Anyhow... I want to hear some real world reviews of this first, but I may actually sell a lesser used amp to buy one of these. I could see it becoming my daily driver since I'm not gigging right now. I've seen some comments on YouTube similar to what you hear people claiming about Kempers that there's just something lacking that ruins it for them compared to a real amp. And just like the Kemper comments...I try to focus hard on what that might be and I don't hear it. These sound like real amps to me. Certainly real in a mix with a band. The Kempers always seemed like something I might purchase, especially the recent pedal board version. But for $400 for this and I can probably use it much easier with bands without them being overwhelmed by controls...I'd say this is a strong studio option.
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Post by notneeson on Oct 27, 2019 11:15:23 GMT -6
I feel like I have gotten similar tones with the sansamp plugin and a good cabinet IR. But if I wasn't on an HD rig I could see how a simple stomp box could be great for ease of use and 0 latency.
The "something's missing" thing for me always comes down to the experiential piece, not so much the tone once a performance is captured. (Although I've re-amped Pod tracks and that definitely helped). Even playing a nice amp can feel a little underwhelming when you have it fully isolated and are listening to monitors only in the control room, the interaction is just different.
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Post by popmann on Oct 27, 2019 17:45:11 GMT -6
Or as simple as Strymon records at 96khz, like their pedals do DSP...and knows the value of good cabling for high impedance guitar lines. Sound done by someone who knowns YouTube level calibration and is maybe an audio engineer vs "some guitar player guy doing demos at 44.1 and blindly uploads them to YouTube"
Nothing there seems brighter than any of my amps in the room.
That said--the most impressive clip I heard was the one with the Strymon staff...playing their like 20 different guitars...very different tones...most sounding really good. that tells me more than any particular guy's axe/playing.
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Post by Quint on Oct 28, 2019 5:48:00 GMT -6
Or as simple as Strymon records at 96khz, like their pedals do DSP...and knows the value of good cabling for high impedance guitar lines. Sound done by someone who knowns YouTube level calibration and is maybe an audio engineer vs "some guitar player guy doing demos at 44.1 and blindly uploads them to YouTube" Nothing there seems brighter than any of my amps in the room. That said--the most impressive clip I heard was the one with the Strymon staff...playing their like 20 different guitars...very different tones...most sounding really good. that tells me more than any particular guy's axe/playing. I also like that those official Strymon videos avoid a lot of the usual guitar slinger wankery and just keep it simple. I'd rather hear how that chord decays over time and how twists of the knob affect the tone than how fast someone can shred.
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Post by Tbone81 on Oct 28, 2019 15:12:04 GMT -6
Is anyone else disappointed with the high gain tones? IDK, it seems like a really useful box for scratch tracks, songwriting etc. And I did really like the slide guitar examples. I'm thinking my Nord could sound great going into this box. But for guitar, meh, its not convincing me to give up my amps any time soon.
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Post by Quint on Oct 28, 2019 16:18:54 GMT -6
Or as simple as Strymon records at 96khz, like their pedals do DSP...and knows the value of good cabling for high impedance guitar lines. Sound done by someone who knowns YouTube level calibration and is maybe an audio engineer vs "some guitar player guy doing demos at 44.1 and blindly uploads them to YouTube" Nothing there seems brighter than any of my amps in the room. That said--the most impressive clip I heard was the one with the Strymon staff...playing their like 20 different guitars...very different tones...most sounding really good. that tells me more than any particular guy's axe/playing. Here's a similar type of video done by Strymon that I just came across for the Iridium. It's got a lot of different guitar/style combinations. There's also these videos. Based on what I'm hearing so far, I may have to pick one of these up to try.
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Post by saltyjames on Oct 29, 2019 22:30:44 GMT -6
Strymon (on their Iridium webpage says): Leave your amp at home. Me: Nah, Imma bring my amp and a couple pedals with me, there will be a strymon on the board.
When did marketers start telling us what to do? How about these ideas: ~You 'could' leave your amp at home. ~Amp broke? Try this pedal instead for 11 years. ~This pedal. It's like an amp. People on the internet that have never even played through it will swear it is better. ~Strymon is a cool word, Kemper is a dumb word.
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Post by donr on Oct 30, 2019 19:02:22 GMT -6
The Chime amp in particular sounds nice. I may go for this just to have another option of amp-less recording.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 30, 2019 19:26:58 GMT -6
That sounds pretty good. Before I listened I thought it might just be a modeling amp in a pedal, but it sounds much better than the modeling amps I've heard. Good tip Quint, thanks.
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Post by popmann on Oct 31, 2019 14:49:05 GMT -6
Since I was intentionally doing all this album myself, I thought it would be ideal to use an amp modeler--since what this basically would mean is one guy, one mic (vocals/acoustic)--a kind of "ideal setup" for a songwriter. Paying $2k for a Kemper or AxeFX still seems absurd to me--if you're a guitarist, you own an amp, if you own an amp--I've never had issues getting "good" tone quietly. Anyway....Long and the short--I couldn't find any that weren't going to EITHER suck or take WAY too much extra mixing BS to make them work compared to literally dropping the Royer in front of one of my amps. So--fuck other people's ideal set up....I need shit to just work.
But, based on the demos I've heard from different players/pickups/guitars--I'd have ordered one of these if I were starting the project today. I don't NEED one....knock on wood....but, if I did....I wouldn't hesitate. I've heard this thing give good tones from demo making dipshits who can't play their instrument in tune. Still sounds good. People who don't even know how to drive the various tone stacks....
Make no mistake--this is a player pedal. If you want the Brown Sound of EVH1 or SRV's Cold Shot recorded tone--you need something like a Helix/AXFX with the whole effects and studio EQs/compressor and such to sound like some record. This sounds like a Fender, Vox/marshall tone stack into different cabs with a little room emulation....otherwise--the ideal recording rig. Even if you like Cold Shot's tone--that's irrelevant for your guitar and record/part....here--you'd put the dEluxe into the boost area with small or med room up half way....and record it--have some bucket bridge pedal you want to use? Cool--use that, too, in front like a normal amp. So, I get that this might be a huge failure for them--new guitarists who don't know that a Fender gets flabby with the bass of the tone stack up.....who don't understand how the bass knob messes with the midrange on an AC30-and that they used the midrange knob for a Cut control in that model....who don't know that you dial a Marshall tone stack to ten then start pulling BACK what's too much (usually the treble)....this will not be their cup of tea.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 31, 2019 15:07:59 GMT -6
It’s impressive but close to $600 cdn . I can get a new Marshall Origin 20 watt combo for around $900. Hmmmm.
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Post by Quint on Oct 31, 2019 16:14:06 GMT -6
I'm buying one. Hopefully this next month.
I have quite a few amps, but this thing sounds like it may be an awesome studio tool for tracking guitars and drums at the same time, when you don't want bleed.
One thing I'm not clear about though is whether or not the output of the Iridium is intended to go directly into your AD or if it needs to go through a preamp or DI or something?
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Post by drbill on Oct 31, 2019 20:20:04 GMT -6
I'm going to buy one. Maybe on Black Friday.... ??
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 31, 2019 21:02:10 GMT -6
Looking forward to hearing your evaluations guys.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 1, 2019 11:19:47 GMT -6
Sounds good here.
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