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Post by porkyman on Jan 8, 2016 1:28:06 GMT -6
i decided to take on the zayance sta level. groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=59017.0pcb's on sale for $75 +/-. mouser cart was $100ish. still need all the expensive stuff though. trying to decide how crazy to get with tubes and trafos. sowters are like 3-4 times the price of edcors for ex. the 6386 is 10x the price of 6ba6 splitter option. it adds up pretty quick. anyone tried it yet? opinion on sowter v edcor? thanks.
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Post by porkyman on Jan 5, 2016 14:03:16 GMT -6
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Post by porkyman on Jan 4, 2016 18:37:49 GMT -6
what about spl de-verb?
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Post by porkyman on Jan 4, 2016 2:54:48 GMT -6
i just recently got a little 16x4 studiomaster. the old one pre ross. monitoring through the board makes a really big difference to me. the stereo field is a lot different. it only took me a day though to realize that i wouldnt be using the eq's ever. the recall is just not worth it. i dont think id have the patience to mix 100% OTB.
i also found that there isnt a huge difference between summing multiple stems OTB and just having 1 2bus like Dr. Bill suggests. i even thought it might have sounded better sometimes. i think mixing is 90% good tracking anyways. i dont believe any of you guys could polish some of the turds ive been producing.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 30, 2015 19:24:53 GMT -6
Slightly off topic but I've always wondered why you've never made one of these tutorials. You've given half of it away already on these forums but "Mixing it like Motown" would be an instant buy for me. It kind of speaks volumes about how busy CLA isn't these daze! CLA follows Bob Clearmountain's process for fully recallable fast intuitive mixes. The secret is that all of the left-brain, utterly fatiguing setup process has been done by his assistants before he ever hears a note. Then he knocks out his mix with totally fresh ears. The labels, producers and artists can all send their comments and he just recalls the mix and punches in any changes they've asked for. You can pretty much do the same thing in Pro Tools only you need somebody to do setup. whenever i read one of Bobs post i always think to myself, "i could easily go through this forum and copy and paste everything Bob says and sell it as a book."
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iLok 2
Dec 23, 2015 23:36:00 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 23, 2015 23:36:00 GMT -6
lol back. the first question people usually ask when you have an ilok problem is "are you using a hub." heres an ex. from duc duc.avid.com/archive/index.php/t-367705.htmlhubs decrease the bandwidth of your usb ports (obviously) by spliting the signal. there is nothing i would put on there except keyboard. youre right though. that was a reach. i usually remove the wifi anyways when im mixing even if im not using the port. I think that like most things there are good hubs and bad. I use a hub for everything except my RME UFX, including the iLok, with no problem. Because my PC is in a closet, I have my hub and the UFX on 16 foot USB extenders plus 8 foot USB cables, again with no problem. you dont get any latency? i would like to move my pc to the back of the room but im already getting lag from my mouse from 20' dvi cable. i didnt think extending the usb would be a very good idea.
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iLok 2
Dec 23, 2015 20:40:40 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 23, 2015 20:40:40 GMT -6
The iLock 1 crack sent several small plug-in developers into bankruptcy. I've been told developers watch their sales drop by 90% every time they get cracked. No developer who has investors can afford to not use the most secure copy protection available. youre right Bob. i was being selfish. if these guys are willing to pay $40,000 then it must mean a lot to their company. i have tech-rage. i go from 0 to postal every time doesnt work perfectly. i often yell out loud at my phone in public like a crazy person whenever it doesnt do exactly what i want instantly. i dont know what it is but i have zero patience with anything "tech." i still hate ilok though. i hope theres a new standard around the corner.
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iLok 2
Dec 23, 2015 20:22:27 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 23, 2015 20:22:27 GMT -6
i have a usb problem on my pc. it only has 6 but 2 are mouse and keyboard. another one for wifi, so technically i only have 3. 1 interface. 1 flash (waves), and 1 for ilok. every time i want to use midi or external HD i have to lose wifi. not that big of a deal but its annoying. lol buy a USB hub. They're like $20 from NewEgg or less. You can't seriously expect us to believe that this is a problem anymore. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2V51YU3966lol back. the first question people usually ask when you have an ilok problem is "are you using a hub." heres an ex. from duc duc.avid.com/archive/index.php/t-367705.htmlhubs decrease the bandwidth of your usb ports (obviously) by spliting the signal. there is nothing i would put on there except keyboard. youre right though. that was a reach. i usually remove the wifi anyways when im mixing even if im not using the port.
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iLok 2
Dec 23, 2015 1:59:14 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 23, 2015 1:59:14 GMT -6
i dont even understand what there is to praise. Here's a few : - Instant portability. When I get called out of town to mix and produce, it's great to be able to take all my important software with me on two usb sticks (1 - iLok with authorizations, 2 - thumb drive with plugin folder), plug both in, swap out one folder, boot PT and start mixing / recording with all my fav / needed software. Simple. It takes me all of about 2 minutes to do this. - Super Quick OS upgrades. I don't like upgrading from a previous system - I like starting with a fresh drive and fresh OS install. iLok makes that MUCH, MUCH simpler than looking up all my account names, passwords, email addresses, etc. from years past and reauthorizing all my plugs. I dread that part of an OS upgrade. - if I'm out of town, lose, break or have the iLok stolen (never happened but it could), I've got the zero downtime thing. Back up and running in a jiffy. - Brainless, day in, day out operation (At least for me) that protects (at least it normally does) the developers that I want to keep in business and support. - A simple, standardized way to get your assets, authorize them and get back to work. Less hassle, less remembering arcane methods of authorization, Less time spent on stupid hunting down serials, codes, etc. No relearning and jumping thru new hoops developed and engineered differently by every other developer that uses proprietary methods to authorize. That's my main list of why I praise iLok. There's a lot of praise out there if you're actually looking for it. Plenty of hate too, but again, I for the life of me can't figure out why.... i feel ridiculous disagreeing with you Bill. kinda like the patient arguing with the doctor, but i can not even imagine a system free of ilok problems. i just searched "ilok issues" on duc and it came back with 500 thread results. - when you go out of town, why cant you use their licenses? why do you need to use your own licenses. do you download all your own software on somebody elses computer? what does ilok license manager do that waves license manager doesnt? wouldnt it be more efficient to store your licenses on the same drive as the installers? i have a usb problem on my pc. it only has 6 but 2 are mouse and keyboard. another one for wifi, so technically i only have 3. 1 interface. 1 flash (waves), and 1 for ilok. every time i want to use midi or external HD i have to lose wifi. not that big of a deal but its annoying. - totally agree here but its the same with waves licenses that are stored on regular flash drives. no need for ilok. - i guess that could be a plus. - so is/does waves, plugin alliance, xln etc. and they dont have to pay $40,000. - same as above. i just recently did a clean install and ilok was nice but none of the others were difficult at all. chrome remembered all my usernames and passwords. it was way more irritating tracking down all the installers. i understand the concept of ilok. i just think it does more harm than good. all these developers paid 40k for what? to prevent punk kids from using their software for a few years? its not like they were ever gonna pay for their plug ins in the first place. they just wouldnt use them.
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iLok 2
Dec 22, 2015 19:51:22 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 22, 2015 19:51:22 GMT -6
honestly, we are living in alternate universes. i am equally as baffled about you as you are of me. i have never heard anyone praise ilok before in my life. i dont even understand what there is to praise. at least not on duc or gs. but i guess its because im never there searching for praise. im only ever there searching for solutions to my ilok woes.
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iLok 2
Dec 22, 2015 19:00:40 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 22, 2015 19:00:40 GMT -6
looks like i was wrong about the delay of 12.4. ive been so proud of Avid lately. theyve gone from worst to first.
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iLok 2
Dec 22, 2015 18:51:06 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 22, 2015 18:51:06 GMT -6
all of you who havent had ilok issues are either a. the luckiest ppl in the world. b. not using a ton of ilok protected plugs, or c. have and just dont realize it.
you mean youve never once had to force quit or restart your computer on startup of PT in your entire life? youve never once had your ilok plugs grayed out? youve never once had cpu overload on ilok plugs and been forced to close out? youve never been caught between updates, or suffered the wrath of a new one? i have a lot of respect for everyone on this board. especially Dr. Bill, and i would never call any of you liars. all im saying is you better find some freaking wood and start knocking.
someone said earlier ilok is charging these developers $40,000 to use their product. i seriously hope theyre getting their money back.
i think subscription is the only way forward. i resisted at first but its making more and more sense. everything should just be encrypted with a simple time bomb like trials are, and every 30 days you have to reset the clock via direct connect to the developers site. it makes plugs accessible to everybody because it only takes a few bucks to start using them right away. you basically rent them. almost like video on demand, and because you can stop using them any time you want it gives developers incentive to constantly be improving their products. to keep their consumers resubscribing.. in return developers get a steady stream of income as well copy protection. its a win win win in all directions.
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iLok 2
Dec 21, 2015 23:49:57 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 21, 2015 23:49:57 GMT -6
ive always felt it was illegal to force people to buy their products to access their own personal property. if you buy a license from a software company you own it. they cant lock you out of it until you buy one of their keys, and only one of their keys. in a subscription based system it makes sense. or if the dongle came from the same developer like steinberg. but you should have an option. if you want to able to access your licenses on multiple computers then yeah. go buy an ilok. but if you dont you shouldnt have to.
part of me is glad. but the other part of me is pretty frickn pissed because its probably gonna effect the release of PT 12.4 and slate pre modules for vmr. on a side note. i read somewhere it would take tens of thousands of man hours to crack ilok2. why would anybody spend that much time on something and receive 0 compensation. somebody's gotta be benefiting from this. either a rival security company or pace themselves by forcing all of us to buy new dongles. it just doesnt make sense. there arent enough hours in a day for this to have happened. 1st, as much as Ilok and software developers have their issues, those people are just trying to make a living and not get their hard work ripped off, being glad to see someone ripped off is just fucked up dude, the part that you really miss is, anytime you buy a product from one of these co's that is dongle secured, they make it clear you are required to buy that and their legal user agreement as well, if you don't like the way they set up that agreement, then just don't buy it, we have some developers here that are getting screwed because of this, and part of you is glad..... I'm biting my tongue.... i started on protools before ilok. i was forced to get an ilok or never upgrade. ilok has locked me out of protools at least 100 times over the years. sometimes it locks me out of slate, kush, etc. then when i go to sell the licenses i bought and paid for they charge $25. i just sold vmr last week and there were 2 of them in my account. i paid $25 to transfer and it ended up being the free the license i downloaded to try revive. i ended up having to pay another $25 to transfer the right one... i feel bad for the independent developers who are consequentially getting their programs cracked after the fact, but im not gonna be crying any tears ilok.
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iLok 2
Dec 21, 2015 22:15:59 GMT -6
Post by porkyman on Dec 21, 2015 22:15:59 GMT -6
I never trusted iLok since it locked me out of my sessions twice, once for 5 days and once for 2 days. It felt like the rights to my own property were taken away. I was always curious why a company like Slate didn't develop their own proprietary system like UAD did. Ericn, UAD is somewhat portable. If you have a Twin and a satellite, you can do almost anything you want with them. Sure, it's not the same as a dongle, but they're not that big and work flawlessly. ive always felt it was illegal to force people to buy their products to access their own personal property. if you buy a license from a software company you own it. they cant lock you out of it until you buy one of their keys, and only one of their keys. in a subscription based system it makes sense. or if the dongle came from the same developer like steinberg. but you should have an option. if you want to able to access your licenses on multiple computers then yeah. go buy an ilok. but if you dont you shouldnt have to. part of me is glad. but the other part of me is pretty frickn pissed because its probably gonna effect the release of PT 12.4 and slate pre modules for vmr. on a side note. i read somewhere it would take tens of thousands of man hours to crack ilok2. why would anybody spend that much time on something and receive 0 compensation. somebody's gotta be benefiting from this. either a rival security company or pace themselves by forcing all of us to buy new dongles. it just doesnt make sense. there arent enough hours in a day for this to have happened.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 14, 2015 1:24:39 GMT -6
why does it say 380 and then when i add it to the cart it jumps up to 640?
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Post by porkyman on Dec 13, 2015 23:53:37 GMT -6
bunp
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Post by porkyman on Dec 13, 2015 23:18:41 GMT -6
i wasnt suggesting there was anything wrong with the design, just that it would grab more attention if you could add "summing mixer," to the title. i think its perfect. especially for bedroom producers like me. i would have one but i already have 2 ez1073's. i would have to sell them, and then wait for it to get built and shipped etc. all that without having heard it or read a single review. im willing to trade though if anyone's interested.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 13, 2015 21:31:50 GMT -6
you guys should add dsub passive summing. it would only cost a few more bucks and it doesnt take up much space. i think it would open up a whole new market for you. At this point it would cost a bundle ! you mean to take it back to prototype? maybe Silver Bullet XL model then. different version.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 13, 2015 21:08:42 GMT -6
you guys should add dsub passive summing. it would only cost a few more bucks and it doesnt take up much space. i think it would open up a whole new market for you.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 13, 2015 20:28:21 GMT -6
im having a hard time figuring ms sidechain out. whats the difference between the sidechain telling it to compress the mid +/- more than the side, and splitting the signal and compressing the mid +/- more than the side yourself?
also on the opto how fast/slow is it? does it use tb4 cells? and if so are they interchangeable with drips?
one more question. what would be the eta be on pultec and vca if i order today? thanks again.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 13, 2015 19:44:18 GMT -6
i mean not sidechain ms. does it convert left right into mid side and back again?
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Post by porkyman on Dec 13, 2015 19:35:52 GMT -6
thanks guys. svart by guitar di's i meant using them to balance the signal between the mixer and the 1073's. just gonna ground the unused input like you said. if i have any problems ill check back in. thanks for the help.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 12, 2015 14:30:22 GMT -6
(But maybe they just have no choice - if you are a musician, you need to make music like to eat or drink or breathe, so you do however...) +1. Back before there were recordings you had a piano in the house and someone knew how to play it. And if you didn't, you went next store. The money was in Tin-pan alley. Popular music was played and enjoyed by the people who actually had to sing it order to hear it. The advent of professional popular musicians changed that paradigm - and in some ways for the worse. Most popular music is shit now because people are no longer musicians. Find your random typical music lover who knows the lyrics to a few songs and ask them to clap a steady beat for 20 counts or sing a melody in tune and they can't. It's not part of our culture to make music any more. People only listen to it, and worse, they listen to what the industry decides they want to listen to, based on lowest common denominator principles, which are pretty low because most people aren't musicians ..and the cycle continues. Yes, there will alway be bands and musicians who rise above the fray, but I think I proved my point in a previous thread where I posted the top 50 from 1975. I don't doubt I could do that for ANY year from 1950 to present and most of it is crap. Back in the "Golden Age" of recording you all speak of, quality recording was the bastion of the few. That is finally changing with the advent of the DAW etc. The irony is, because we know live in a culture of 'listeners' who have access to this technology, most music is beat machines and loops. ahhh. i see what youre saying. its the audience that arent musicians anymore. thats why theyre buying crap. they have no appreciation for musicianship because they have no understanding of what musicianship is. i think youve nailed it, and theres probably a direct correlation between the decline of popular music and the schools dropping music out of the curriculum. i know i had know appreciation for classical music until i studied it in college.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 12, 2015 14:05:44 GMT -6
im not sure i want anymore trafos. im going to be stacking a lot on the 2bus anyways but does the full kit 380 euros come with trafos? if not is the pcb slotted for trafos if i decide to add them at a later time? also while i have here. whats your favorite piece between these 3 comps? you have to choose one. thanks Gustav. i have been dreaming of an m/s pultec forever. im definitely getting one of them. trying to decide between one of the comps so i can order them together. hopefully you'll discount shipping. I think my favourite unit is the MS VECA. It does something thats unique but still subtle enough to have real life use. It opened my ears to something I haven't heard before, which is why it has to be my favourite. Its by far the least popular of the new units, though. In comparison, it seems I can sell as many MS76 as I have time to build. Maybe the MS SC balance concept is just "odd", or maybe I need to come up with a clever name that either communicates it really clearly or clouds it in total mystery a la "Center punch" Gustav does it have ms and ms sidechain or is it just ms sidechain. are the other units true ms. thanks.
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Post by porkyman on Dec 12, 2015 2:32:53 GMT -6
im not sure i want anymore trafos. im going to be stacking a lot on the 2bus anyways but does the full kit 380 euros come with trafos? if not is the pcb slotted for trafos if i decide to add them at a later time?
also while i have here. whats your favorite piece between these 3 comps? you have to choose one.
thanks Gustav. i have been dreaming of an m/s pultec forever. im definitely getting one of them. trying to decide between one of the comps so i can order them together. hopefully you'll discount shipping.
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