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Post by tonycamphd on May 9, 2016 6:46:37 GMT -6
My jaw is on the floor. Nice work man! Really interested in how the EQ additions sound. Was thinking about grabbing them for my pair but can't seem to part with the custom faceplates on mine Thanks m8! Re the eq version I've recorded with it a couple of times and for the very moderate eq I do when recording I found it nice, pleasant and doing the job. However just the other day, in mix, I did a brief A/B with my AMS/Neve reissues on acoustic and snare. I found it lacking the character I associate with the Neve 10-series. Ahhh grasshopper, Now is when u start to really DIY, you must fiddle and tweak until u get "the sound", its in there, you gotta coax it out pal! btw, me calling you "grasshopper" is the funny part 8)
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Post by tonycamphd on May 9, 2016 6:38:12 GMT -6
A cheap switching psu will never compete with a linear psu for moving audio, ull have to do a lot more than just shielding to get it there... if at all(see hypex power amps) The dual psu by CAPI can run 22 16v units, if more users/manufacturers knew the sound quality advantages of running higher V(headroom etc), the 51x boxes would be hard to keep stocked IMO
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Post by tonycamphd on May 9, 2016 6:14:55 GMT -6
I believe Volker at GDIY is Capi's European counterpart when it comes to 51x boxes?,.... jsteiger ?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 8, 2016 17:41:55 GMT -6
listen to the first word "if", the blue 1176 is buttery and smooth= the steadiest of the three by a long shot, i'd like a longer sample with some space to hear some attack and release character, my bet is it would seriously outshine the other 2 on more rhythmic material, especially slammed.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 7, 2016 21:39:11 GMT -6
With the risk of making you tired of my bragging I just have to post a pic of my bench right now. If you're not a professional builder or work at BAE or Heritage this is not the everyday sight. This is 24 kits - twenty newly built and four NV73EQ built a month ago - all waiting for a relay and a cap scheduled to ship Monday. Past midnight here and quite content and a bit proud, celebrating with my fav beer! P, that is ridiculously AWESOME!!
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Post by tonycamphd on May 7, 2016 10:00:50 GMT -6
I'm going to refine my initial endorsement a bit. I bought my 506 and two 6x preamps when they came out. I had been watching 500 series for years but couldn't justfy the cost to get into it. The 506 made it easy. Kind of like the Mackie 1604, the Lindell produce broke through the price barrier and opened up the 500 market to a lot more people. I haven't experienced the noisy PSU Tony talks about, but you do get what you pay for. My 506 came with a bad slot, and one of the 6x had a gain problem. Tobias Lindell and Rad Distribution were great, fixed everything, no charge. Since then, all the units have worked fine. When I rebuilt my studio, I now had enough 500 processors to move to a ten space rack. So I did my research and bought a Fredenstein bento 10. Heavy duty unit, reasonable price. I would build a Capi, except I am limiting myself to 10 spaces (it's a zen thing), so the Capi price advantage for two racks doesn't really kick in for me. I think if the OP wants to try 500 for low budget, a 506 is fine. Middle range on quality and price, try a Bento, top of the line, Capi. I'm seriously glad it's working out for you SB, i made an immediate decision to not participate on the switching supply alone, those can be useful, but it takes serious effort by a qualified designer to make them up to snuff, as far as "Tony talks about", i got the info from here.... www.gearslutz.com/board/low-end-theory/915317-hum-lindell-506-a.htmlbtw, for a double post, just go up to the top right and hit the gear wheel, it should offer you a "delete post" option 8)
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Post by tonycamphd on May 7, 2016 8:33:25 GMT -6
Well, there is no doubt that I feel more like I do now, than I did when I first got here..., I get about 6-7 a night, I have 2 alarms set, one at 5:00, one at 6:00, sometimes I'll reach the 6:00 alarm. I'm like Doug, I need coffee and an hour to ramp up, everything hurts all the time, I have a seriously effed up back, but too bad poops, learn to love the pain and get busy, I come from the school of "if u ain't bleeding, u ain't workin" construction style, physically Im 6'-230lbs(at least), I can break about anything haha, and can still practically do a split, i can/do work 20 somethings to their exhaustion, I laugh at them and say old guy things like..."smarter not harder, use it or lose it are real things!"Haha Music and construction were always there, in my 20's I'd often work all day, play till closing somewhere, and back to work after a few hours of sleep in my truck, I went to the Dick Grove College of music in LA and still worked full time, and did the same gigging(boss ruled and was lenient with me splitting for a couple hours here and there for classes), I was never willing to be the starving muso, I never had the structure to support that, I started getting grey hair at 19 years old, I decided to dye my hair all grey and tell people I'm 65years old, then they would surely say "wow! U look great for your age!!!", ok, last part not true, I'm late 40's now, and have felt society old since 25, I remember when I was 28 and I hooked up with my second long time girl friend, I asked her "why does a beauty 24yo want to hang with an old guy like me?" which was rightfully met with a , so whatever, I fear nothing but losing people I love and heights, which can be tough when uve lived through early 2016, or ur on the second floor of a structure you're actively building the floor of 8)
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Post by tonycamphd on May 6, 2016 21:34:09 GMT -6
awesome! how bout that elam sitting there all shiney and new!
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Post by tonycamphd on May 6, 2016 21:16:02 GMT -6
welcome to the forum, when it comes to great gear, 100 times out of 100, it starts with a great power supply, Jeff's 51x box has a killer beefy linear power supply with up to 500ma per slot(if i remember correctly?), the lindel has a cheap as it gets switching power supply, their lofty adverts brag it makes 400mv per slot, but fail to mention that the 400mv is provided by a noisy $2 Chinese switching supply that has no business in anything pro audio, but i'm sure it's great..... for me to poop on! 8) seriously though, you get what you pay for, if you intend on capturing high end, professional sound quality, anything lindel shouldn't even be a consideration IMO. check this out... www.gearslutz.com/board/low-end-theory/915317-hum-lindell-506-a.html
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Post by tonycamphd on May 6, 2016 20:49:08 GMT -6
I do need to improve my handling of the bass. It's either boomy/muddy or too light. The stridency on consonants is my fault, my voice is just that way, and I'm working on it. I thought it was my mic, so I jumped through hoops to get the newly designed Blackspade UM17R Mk II. It is one of the least sibilant mics I've ever heard, yet it still had the sound I was trying to avoid. Same thing with the $3,500 Soyuz 0-17, the 2k Soyuz 0-19 FET, and the Avantone CV95 I just tried, so it was me all along. This was about as good as I could get it at home, all things considered. I'm looking forward to recording in other places again, hopefully :-) actually..., it's definitely not you, it's almost never the singer, and at the risk of sounding like a broken record..., I'll say again... excluding a weak mic/pre/converter/room, there are really only 2 major things that cause the essy, hard consonant thing, 1. being too close to the mic, 2. adding too much mis applied compression, both acts give too much energy to those frequencies that nature didn't intend them to have. Think about it, sib freq's are weak, they are easily obstructed, and do not travel well through atmosphere, think about a person whispering in your ear, lots of ess's, t's, lip smacks, and mouth noises, pretty gross unless it's a beautiful woman 8) Then think about the sound of someone talking to you from across the room, virtually no sibs or above, it's all midrange, bass doesn't really apply considering it's voice, the only thing that can give those weak sib freqs equal power to the more powerful freq's is proximity to a mic, or compressing down the more energetic freqs to the sib level, and then turning them all up! FAIL! Now lets exacerbate the problem by reverberating/effecting those wacked out sibs even more! and now you have a slice fest stew on your hands. As far as bass, thats a bit less obvious, but consider filtering off elements that are panned hard L/R a bit higher than you'd think, bass likes to mono up, and once multiple low freq's are competing for attention in the center image, things get rough.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 6, 2016 10:53:28 GMT -6
the song is good, the performances are good, pulling the shakers down was a good idea, overall the mix is a bit bloat/muddy in the low mids causing freq masking, and there's a bit of lurchy/stridency on the consonants TME, pretty good overall though if you ask me. I can't believe you didn't come in and tell me that I crushed the life out of it. I tell it like i hear it, nothing more or less, isn't that why you love me? 8)
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Post by tonycamphd on May 6, 2016 9:54:51 GMT -6
the song is good, the performances are good, pulling the shakers down was a good idea, overall the mix is a bit bloat/muddy in the low mids causing freq masking, and there's a bit of lurchy/stridency on the consonants TME, pretty good overall though if you ask me.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 6, 2016 9:42:22 GMT -6
I think it's pretty clear that Mark and Samar make the highest fidelity ribbon mics that have ever been designed, the high freq response is unheard of for ribbons. It's not clear to those of us who only heard files with a broken mic. I posted files months ago, so did Emrr, and others if i remember correctly..., i'd also add that you don't need it to sit next to anything for comparison to recognize extreme quality in a mic....
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Post by tonycamphd on May 5, 2016 22:45:22 GMT -6
I think it's pretty clear that Mark and Samar make the highest fidelity ribbon mics that have ever been designed, the high freq response is unheard of for ribbons.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 5, 2016 11:03:56 GMT -6
Hey C, what voltage did you end up running on the 4898's? is the cooling pad implemented or just left floating? I'm figuring its used, or you're running them at a much lower voltage than what they're rated for? Just curious...
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Post by tonycamphd on May 5, 2016 7:58:28 GMT -6
More common than not these days....
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Post by tonycamphd on May 4, 2016 17:57:35 GMT -6
I went looking and found (a blue one) on ebay that I bid on. I won the auction and hope to try it out soon. I do have a M201 that I'm thinking of selling in case anyone is interested.. how much for the M201? bump svart
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Post by tonycamphd on May 4, 2016 13:50:24 GMT -6
OK - Joey is saying A is slightly louder...damn normalization...Anyway, I think we all get the point. I like the louder one! haha
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Post by tonycamphd on May 4, 2016 13:36:06 GMT -6
everyone knows brighter is better, and certainly louder is better 8)
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Post by tonycamphd on May 4, 2016 13:32:14 GMT -6
I'm at the point where the only choice is between the Scott Liebers 2520 red dot, and his 1731, not a diy option, but a marginal cost diff for a better end result imo. haven't tried the rogue5, but Brad makes sweet stuff...
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Post by tonycamphd on May 4, 2016 0:25:50 GMT -6
thats a loaded question, and it totally depends on how you use it, but generally not a problem on a great console that's well designed with good head room, if you're on mediocre/just get by kinda gear, then yes, but generally the more channels you sum, the larger the benefit from an image solidity standpoint IME, my rig is being set up for outboard summing banks of 8 for passive stereo bussing, where they'll be returned/make up gained to pairs on my console and then summed to the stereo buss.... for what is essentially double summing I guess, I'm a huge proponent for stereo subs being re collected at the 2, it really gives you the ability to compartmentalize individual aspects of the image by instruments, vs the hard to shake vaguity(not a word 8) aspect of ITB summing, of course JME. This rules. I been doing a similar thing for a few years. I had 8 passive summing busses at one time. I have 4 now. 2 folcroms and 2 gas audio sigmas. I also use a tonelux otb 16. I use outboard pres and land them on the console at line level. Then inserts. Then they go to ACA sub groups before the 2 bus. Then there's the insert at the 2 bus. It's a lot of SL red dots and various transformers. I also have a pile of 1:1 transformers that I can insert or drive in to. They got tt cables on em so I can put em anywhere on the patch bay. All of that is to say...I'm a big fan of summing otb. Passive and active, but I'm doing a lot more than just summing. All of THAT is to say...when you're mixing on an SSL you are going through a LOT of damned chips. Man that thing is FULL of em. Same on discreet consoles except it's not chips. Either way it's a lot of amp stages. So summing...yes. Amps and transformers...yes. Sum and sum and sum again. Jim Williams is gonna cut me in twain. ;-) No doubt I deserve it. My mixes are dark and wooly. I keep getting in trouble for it. Awesome! I definitely subscribe to the Jim Williams school, BUT I also love the old school vibes, and dirt can be a beautiful thing, either way, IMO, sub groups are just the ticket to making a band sound like a "band" coming out of two speakers, clean or dirty.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 3, 2016 23:23:17 GMT -6
You can't rely on online clips. See if you can try one out. To me it sounds like a 57 without the blanket. I went looking and found (a blue one) on ebay that I bid on. I won the auction and hope to try it out soon. I do have a M201 that I'm thinking of selling in case anyone is interested.. how much for the M201?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 3, 2016 21:24:07 GMT -6
quck listen and I prefer B, A is louder, and it appears more open due to brightness, but at the expense of being a bit too pointy/harsh, which would wear me out before long, B is more listenable IMO
again, your mixing is always sounding better and better to me JK.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 3, 2016 13:41:55 GMT -6
unless you can really dial the proper parts in for an Elam clone? it a rough build, i'd go C12 clone, (Chung's) just use good components. I'm building an elam next, i sourced as much original stuff as i could find, once it's done, i will decide on whether i build a second elam or C12 for a pair, my C12 which has been majorly tweaked out sounds super sweet!
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Post by tonycamphd on May 3, 2016 12:19:39 GMT -6
I'm not defending Led Zeppelin, but I would like to defend all of us who write. TTBOMK, there are 384,000 possible melodies than can be made out of the 12 semi-tone devision of the frequency spectrum inside an octave. There are millions and millions of songs. Melodies are repeated constantly. By accident, by deign, by intent and by coincidence. To call this plagiarism is like calling anyone who writes "Once upon a time..." or "I love you" a plagiarist. Consider... Clearly, PAUL MCCARTNEY wrote stairway to Heaven in "Michelle, my belle" I'm proud to say that my 'squirrel looking for a nut" song puts me in the paddy waggon with the rest of the criminals in your video https%3A//soundcloud.com/tonycamp/empathysong2015
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