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Post by drumrec on Apr 12, 2014 17:33:12 GMT -6
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Post by drumrec on Apr 12, 2014 17:16:48 GMT -6
Ha, funny ... it was the song that I would post @johnkenn Dr. Steve Gadd has always been my great mentor, a genius! Here are two other childhood memories in the groove
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Post by drumrec on Apr 3, 2014 7:14:17 GMT -6
I actually meant it as recording gear...but no big whoop... Sorry, my mistake! But it's something that I think has made a big difference in rec gear and that I have much use for it is my old pair Neve 33115 pre / eq with Coles 4038 mics. Always happy what that chain delivers. scumbum Have a Rogers Dynasonic snare and it's an absolutely gorgeous snare. Think it's a bit like Ludwig Supraphonic. I have the old snare strainer left and it's a little tricky to find good new snare wire. So it may be an advantage to you replaced the usual snare strainer /H
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Post by drumrec on Apr 2, 2014 17:06:04 GMT -6
My two Ludwig Black Beauty Snare. Pure love every time I play on them ❤️
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Post by drumrec on Mar 22, 2014 8:55:13 GMT -6
Have been curious about that Pearlman TM-47. Heard many good things about it. 'll Have to pull the trigger on a mt-47 in the near future. Glad to hear @thevillestudo that you where happy with your mic
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Post by drumrec on Mar 19, 2014 4:51:29 GMT -6
Thanks @johnkenn!
A rather important subject that should get its own thread. Constructive criticism and critical thinking are the best I know, and that makes us sharpen our performance for the better, period!
BUT!!!, just as important if not more important is to trust their own instincts and gut feeling. Every person is unique in their own way with desires, whims and fancies. For one thing is certain, we can not make everyone happy. Would it be the case you would have to turn inside out on itself and lose completely your own Identity.
For those people who stand out from all others is they who have believed in their cause. Right or wrong, only you can decide in the end. I think if you're having fun on the road and you have a good gut feeling and like what u here, you are home!
Can only say that the guy who wrote that review is complete asshole, nothing constructive criticism whatsoever, tragic!
/H
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Post by drumrec on Mar 18, 2014 19:24:00 GMT -6
Tjabadabdoo! Now I'm back and terrorize you with the drums again Small changes can make big changes. I got John's song the day after I had recorded to a client which wanted J.Bonham drum sound, but in 2014 (which I posted earlier in this thread). So I kept the same drum set up and mics. I stuffed some rags in the bass drum and little moongel on toms and snare. I liked Johns programmed drums, especially the typical 80th century gate snare reverb. So I had two different reverb on the snare. A smaller room reverb UAD EMT 250 and a longer reverb UAD Lexicon 224 that I put the gate on a little subtle so it will not be to obvious. Had a third microphone to snare shell as svart recommended earlier, which I then ran through 1176 with all buttons mode and very low in the mix. Just as it brought something dirty in the mix. This version is a little more compressors (I have a penchant for good compressors and like to use them, for better or worse). But you have John's own master of the song under the title "What Are You Working On" and "Tupelo July 99". Absolutely wonderful song! Cheers brothers https%3A//soundcloud.com/drumrec-com/tupelo-july-99-john-kennedyhttps%3A//soundcloud.com/drumrec-com/tupelo-july-99-drums-perc
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Post by drumrec on Mar 18, 2014 16:07:39 GMT -6
1. Ampex ATR-102
2. EMT 250
3. Studer A800
/H
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Post by drumrec on Mar 13, 2014 14:01:49 GMT -6
Not to forget on drums, lovely Coles 4038
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Post by drumrec on Mar 5, 2014 9:00:11 GMT -6
on a lighter note I was looking up some stuff on a cm700 mic I've got today and on the crown website came across mention of fixing a boundry mic to the drummers chest. that made me laugh. so who's tried it? anyone want to try it? Cool ... but it would never work for me! I have an ability to involuntarily humming when I'm sitting and playing drums. Heard it in a recording for almost 15 years ago that there was something strange humming with the recording. We took the channel to channel until it was just overhead mics left and I was the guilty one. Has become a little better over the years to control this humming when recording! So a microphone on my chest would be devastating when recording, haha
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 18:34:41 GMT -6
tonycamphd svart One might think differently and so it should be no right or wrong. That is why there is so much color in the palette so everyone has some color that you like, same with music peace
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 18:28:37 GMT -6
Very nice Haken! Through my earbuds, the sound/tonality of your kit seems close to JHB's live sound. This is a good thing, IMHO. I have heard many Zeppelin boots, and the most lamentable aspect of them is always the fidelity of the recording. But the brilliance of JHB's talent always punches through, no matter how poor the quality of the tape. And the sound the band always seemed to reach for was "raw" and in-your-face dry. Maybe not truly dry, but that is how the drums sounded to me, out in the audience. And the drum mix was loud, very loud. I am struggling to describe JHB's sound without resorting to cliches. I suppose in the end it came down to the man and his talent. But he had a sound - one that can be replicated to a certain degree, and I think you have accomplished it. When I saw them live in '77, the thing that blew me away the most was the drum sound coming through the PA, and of course the drumming. Perhaps some of the enduring reverence for JHB comes from how people lucky enough to see Zep live remember the experience: for me, for the first 15 minutes of the show, I heard nothing but the radical style and brutal finesse of JHB as he flawlessly executed LZ's material with a controlled fury that no one has been able to match, ever. His fills were crazy over-the-top complex, yet his timing was perfect. I could not hear Plant's vocal, and I could barely pick out Page's guitar. The mix was actually pretty unbalanced and "bad". But I didn't mind one bit. Thanks matt Wow, you saw them live, then you know what you're talking about, awesome! Year '77 then I was only 9 years old and remember that I had saved up for my first snare drum, by selling the morning newspapers. As I had those first 5 years before I had saved up to a full drum kit. 1977 'is a good year for me maybe I'll write a song about it What appeals me from that time is that it was not so much weirdness of the music. It was up to the musician to deliver from start to finish. Today, it is more unusual for bands go into the studio and record the song from beginning to end, unfortunately! JHB is the man, period! /H
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 18:07:37 GMT -6
great stuff drumrec. cheers for loading this up. punchy and roomy!!
were you using 2 snare mics? or testing? also keen to hear your thoughts on mono overhead placement?
what mic setup did you use? Thanks and glad you liked it! It's the same mic set that I have on page one of this thread. But I took Korby U67 mic and put it above my head pointing down to the snare. So they mic which was the main source of this sound is Korby U67 mono OH and Soundelux mic standing a few feet in front of the bass drum. Then I sneaked up with Coles 4038:s and stereo overhead and the rest of the mic. I have two mic to the snare is that one mangles pretty hard in the compressor and puts quite low in the mix (a bit like a dirty mic). With each new recording, it becomes that it is testing something new. Everything depending on the song, style, etc. That's the fun of the drum recording, never gets boring
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 17:07:04 GMT -6
Gotta say boys, I'm not too much of an overly emotional person. But listening to this song this morning and knowing what it will mean to these precious people really did me in. I'm so honored to have been able to work on this with you guys. Helping others makes all the difference in this world. I've always believed that but it's good to be reminded of it often. That's the beauty of music and the way it should be...
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 17:04:35 GMT -6
Those drums were bedrock Hakan. Thank YOU Martin for your fine effort with the guitars, lovely
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 1:20:33 GMT -6
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 1:19:06 GMT -6
Monday morning here in Stockholm and it's time to terrorize my friends here at RGO with a little drum rattle so you can kick-start to a wonderful week in the studio. Last week I had a client who wanted the drum sound like John Bonham style, but a bit more modern. When I usually test new drum sound I take a loop so it will be more fun to tweak the drum sound to. So I took a guitar loop that however gets quite repetitive and monotonous (because I can not poste client's song) so bear with it However, almost the same mic set up as before. I moved Korby KAT U67 mic to be a mono overhead, thats it! Then I dust off the big BD (not near nobtwiddler gorgeous 30" BD though). The biggest thing I have is a 24X18" and I took out all the cushioning. Then it was just to tune the drums for a sound that fits! Thought of you gouge there with this dark hihat on "taming the hat" thread. Sending a picture of 16" K Ziljian 70's hihat that I had for this job, lovely! Ride/crach was a dark Istanbul Agop ride 20". No reverb, there where enough room in the ambience mic and the drum bus would be happy to go through ADR compressor or some other comp. Was a bit lazy here and the mix was not the most important thing at this stage and it's a bump at 200-240Hz. That said, it's just a rough mix to find the drum sound... Can upload a wav file on the drums through my dropbox that you can download for those who want to download the drums. Feel free to do whatever you want, cut and paste, mix or just jamming or to wake the neighbors with! 89 bpm Cheers /H https%3A//soundcloud.com/drumrec-com/soundcheck-jam-bonham-vibehttps%3A//soundcloud.com/drumrec-com/soundcheck-jam-drums-89bpm
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Post by drumrec on Mar 3, 2014 1:08:55 GMT -6
Wonderfully done cowboycoalminer and thanks 4 letting me participate! Kind Regards /H
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Post by drumrec on Mar 2, 2014 19:19:35 GMT -6
What is it exactly that you're doing with the Compex again? Your drums are just sick sounding, I say again, SICK sounding. Thanks Bro, but the drum sound that I have is 95% a variant of TLC more like TPGGR "tune, play gently, good room."
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Post by drumrec on Mar 2, 2014 17:48:28 GMT -6
What a great headline. ADR compressor is a true beauty. You've already got the most information about ADR in this thread. But I think you can use ADR to all possible sources. It's just about how much you feed the input to the beast. You could say That it is old 1176 with steroids! Had a " ADR F760X -RS Compex " Which I just loved . Then I came across the unusual older model with Helios cards (which I was told). I really enjoyed my ADR Compex, but this old helios model knocks out Compex into sound, incredible piece of magic! It is a Audio Design F760X -RS not Compex . Before I sold my Compex model , I took off the cover and comparing the two models, and it was a completely different type of construction. I'm not a DIY guy, but saw that there were two different beasts Have had it for many years now and I 've never seen someone who has this model on the net and in various forums, friend etc.. Would be very interesting to know a little more about this compressor's history and you seem to be the right man arny to know that. Would be very grateful if you had time Kind Regards Hakan Hansson
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Post by drumrec on Feb 27, 2014 12:51:57 GMT -6
Wonderfully trashy, dirty drums gouge Love that low tuned snare. Do you get a lot of use in the mix with that under mic on toms. Tested it once with've never felt that I needed it. Must be a dream to send the whole drum kit to a tape recorder and smooth out the cymbals! Sitting right now and make drum job for a customer who wants dirty, singing rock drums ala J.Bonham. So I've dusted of my 24 "x18 bass drum and out with all the cushioning so it ring beautiful overtones in the studio 4 the moment:) Speaking of "taming the hat" thread. For this recording I have a couple of old vintage 16 "K Zildjian hi-hat ... sooooooo smooth sound;) Will post some clips and photos later so u can here Cool recording room you have! /H
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Post by drumrec on Feb 25, 2014 7:10:44 GMT -6
Putting aside that the drummer play more gently on hihat and cymbals, because I understand that it is very individual when you have different bands in the studio and that message does not always reach. Without exaggeration , it is at least 95 % of cases at the recordings I've done, it's been winning having dark cymbals from jazz to metal. If you want a brighter cymbals / hihat in the mix, it's the easy part, and not vice versa.
As well studios buy expensive preamps, compressors and not talk about everything we put in acoustics. So I think all studios makes itself a great service to purchase a set of dark cymbals. For those buggers can really ruin an entire recording.
A tip on a set of cymbals that I will buy in future. Auditioned them a recording, and then was completely sold. Not amongst the cheapest, but if you put it in against any other expenditure you do in a high end studio, it's small potatoes in the end, given that they can save a recording.
just my 1 cent
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Post by drumrec on Feb 24, 2014 0:42:32 GMT -6
This is something that no parent should have to experience in their lifetime and I saw your post now RicFoxx and it hurts to read. So is there anything we do here to give Daniel's parents some sense of hope, strength, so it's the least we can do for them. The pieces begin to fall into place with the song and I am strongly considering Selling my drums and buy a fiddle after hearing @ cowboycoalminer in mix 4, hoa! Keep up the good spirit Brothers! /H
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Post by drumrec on Feb 23, 2014 13:14:07 GMT -6
Well deserved gold 2 Canada, congratz
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Post by drumrec on Feb 23, 2014 13:11:05 GMT -6
Then I watched some producers put on electric collars that send electrical impulses if the drummer comes across a particular db. treating us drummers like the barking Dawgs we most certainly are!! We have to put up with a lot in our profession, haha
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