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Post by kilroyrock on May 6, 2016 5:47:58 GMT -6
I beleive he mentioned iLock cost $50K, add development costs to that. That's crazy. Spending 50k to get the ability to include an ilok license, so you've basically lost 50k before ever selling anything. I guess the assumption is he'd lose more than that if he didn't use an ilok licensing setup?
It begs the question - how many people would steal the plugin that would have bought it if they had no choice but to? That's a 350 dollar question.
I would guess it'd be more than 142.857 people.. What's the real scam here is Ilok charging 35 bucks to transfer a license, when they've already raked the company who issued the license over the coals for 50k, plus the 40 bucks for a 50 cent usb dongle!
Forgive me for derailing, I was just..wow.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 4, 2016 21:07:35 GMT -6
Threads like these are why I have moved over to RGO. Thanks!
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Post by kilroyrock on May 4, 2016 13:54:17 GMT -6
Yeah... that's close. I like B better? I mean.. both sound money. But the snap on the snare sample, the clap comes through better, the sizzle hi hats? maybe? I'm thinking this is more 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other..
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Post by kilroyrock on May 4, 2016 9:19:10 GMT -6
I see the cart's back up at capi-gear.com and want to build some vp28's .. I've built a few GAR2520's though, and those are the time sucker!
On www.diyrecordingequipment.com they've got a suite of op amps that are various level kits - and I'm looking at the whistlerock 25 which is a partial build with a few surfacemount components. Has anybody tried those and compared to the GAR2520 or the rogue? I'll pay 7-8 bucks more to do a smaller opamp kit vs an hour+ per GAR, if the sacrifice to the sound isn't apparent. I have never heard any real comparisons, other than the conversation of preamps with opamp vs without opamp.
Thanks for any insight!
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Post by kilroyrock on May 4, 2016 6:47:55 GMT -6
B was darker, perhaps volume related, but A definitely comes off brighter. I am using my cheap behringer office cans though, then again - it's more like an average consumer? Fantastic sounding and good song. All I could think was "man, it sure helps when you're starting off with a good song!" - Awesome that it's yours. keep up the good work. I'm interested to know which is which!
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Post by kilroyrock on May 4, 2016 6:29:19 GMT -6
I guess UA paid softube to write it then? I couldn't imagine a reason they wouldn't sell the plugin outright - I'm hoping for a 1 year wait before releasing the plug (a la apple w/ AT&T in 2009)
Anything softube is awesome. I may pick up their drum machine and sell my TR-8 too (but oh, the buttons! the buttons!)
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Post by kilroyrock on May 3, 2016 20:47:56 GMT -6
Wow,from what I see, between op amps, trafos, wiring, case, even in a diy setting 1200 without labor to make a single one, cost dropping with bulk obviously. Certainly a piece where you are getting what you pay for, which is something I look for in gear I buy whole! The work alone is crazy for that. I see 2k-2500 a reasonable cost to sell what they offer. Blown away.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 3, 2016 20:23:45 GMT -6
This is probably the most honest summing conclusion I have ever seen.
It makes sense though. Granted, I will be researching a nicerizer until bedtime now!
The approach you took with the burl pushing the trannies is interesting as well! One hell of an expensive journey though!
Thanks for the update.
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Post by kilroyrock on May 3, 2016 7:55:18 GMT -6
I figure it's a space saving thing as well? an inch longer in the back for a TRS vs an xlr? I'm gonna look at orange county speaker, maybe they have better shipping costs, monoprice kills you on shipping
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Post by kilroyrock on May 3, 2016 5:50:58 GMT -6
well porkyman, 5 months later.. what'd you go with?
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Post by kilroyrock on May 2, 2016 13:19:15 GMT -6
I am looking at getting one of the lindell 510 10 space 500 series racks, but realize I'm going to either need a ton of xlr to line adapters or xlr > TRS cables in order to get this plugged into my patchbay...
Has anyone modded a 500 series rack to change out the connectors? Or is there a suggestion somewhere that may be more of what I'm looking to do? Monoprice may be getting a hefty order one way or the other, but if there is something I'm not thinking of, I would appreciate the suggestions.
Thanks!
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Post by kilroyrock on May 2, 2016 6:43:49 GMT -6
I can honestly say that I have gotten into countless bands when I was a young kid from my friends making me a copy of their album. In turn, I ended up going to many of their shows (AND STILL DO), where real money actually gets into the pockets of these bands. GnR still has to sue their label every couple of years to get a fraction of their royalties paid out to them. Nothing has changed there. On the flip side, I sell very very few albums, but get streams "regularly". It's enough that I get my next album's cdbaby online fees paid for.
The point I'm trying to make is that there's a time and place, and the market saturation is literally insane. "Local band" isn't your only alternative to radio anymore, and hasn't been for going on 20 years. If your videos get a lot of hits, youtube gives you royalties. A buddy of mine got 400 bucks to have his song in a company's youtube video. Please think bigger than your songs being stolen, because you're fighting more than just the "The Man", you're also in an arms race with a million other bands that are probably better at internet promotion than you, most likely better looking (because that matters more these days than ever with youtube).
As lame as it may sound, Fall Out boy's "This ain't a scene it's an arms race" is a very valid statement in today's music economy. Commercial licensing and live shows are still king in the money makers. I make 150-400 a night sitting on a stool in a dive bar or at a party for a couple hours, but maybe a full year to make 50 bucks in streams. I also grew up understanding that though. I have accepted in my 30's that my day job will always exist for me to support a family.
You should be almost as angry at the makers of home studio gear, for killing the big studio budgets. Local bands don't "have" to go to a place for 45 an hour to record their "3 song demo" anymore, and end up with a pretty damn good record.
Adapt!
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 29, 2016 15:18:22 GMT -6
Build quality is great! Metal box, instant recognition, emulation sounds great. I use it in conjunction with my artist mix. There is a volume fader, but I use that as a comp make up. I had a US 2400, it is solid as well. I sold mine and miss having 24 faders, but the artist mix has great pro tools integration obviously, superior to Hui.
Between the two I have a great feel, and use a fd tranzport for my transport control.
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 29, 2016 7:51:11 GMT -6
New mix definitely sounds different, much more open with the high end but certainly not a bad amount, I rather like the second mix compared to the first. I can really feel the compressor on this track though. I am listening through headphones and I definitely feel a bit of the pumping that you don't hear on the previous mix so much, probably due to the less crisp overall sound? Is that just me, and is that intended to get it more in your face? I hear mixes on the college radio more that definitely are going for the pumping. Mainly, I want to learn more about your approach to the song. If I have time this weekend I'll see if I can do a mix of this through my console 1 setup
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 27, 2016 6:19:33 GMT -6
Are there any actual comparisons with a Reddi that could be done by one of you who have both? Also, compare it to the RNDI? I know it's not a tube DI, so it won't be similar, but I'm looking into the Zod, and want to hear some comparisons. I have an RNDI which I use for reamping and bass currently, however I am more than intrigued by a good tube DI.
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 25, 2016 7:14:29 GMT -6
I heard my neighbor's Apollo 8p on Saturday - He tracked through his focusrite pre's, and writes early 80's Cure type songs; but just playing back the mix, he and I both could hear so much more in his mix than previously through his old maudio interface (I know, I know). I was never one to believe that modern AD/DA is that much improved compared to stuff from even 5-10 years ago, but yesterday I became a believer...
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 22, 2016 6:45:22 GMT -6
I'm curious if Eucon support would be possible or available for any intention? I've spent so much money on controllers that if I was ever to move I'd have to have that functionality translate across? I feel selfish even asking, as Harrison has really felt like a "for the people" kind of company.
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 20, 2016 6:57:28 GMT -6
I really enjoy the Nashville ezx, use it pretty well exclusively for that black beauty. I can see myself picking this one up on the next ezx sale though, that video was done right!
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 19, 2016 4:17:55 GMT -6
Wow, softube is listening:
Crazy Sale On Console 1 You read that right—we're launching a worldwide campaign where we offer you Console 1 for $649! So head over to your favorite Softube dealer and get your unit right away. The campaign lasts until May 31, 2016.
Not sure what Console 1 is all about? Visit the product page for the product video and more information.
Product Page, Here I Come!
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 18, 2016 7:07:09 GMT -6
"Ah Yes, Fun Spent! We're poor."
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 18, 2016 6:08:29 GMT -6
Interesting, I think it sounds very good. My biggest concern with this product is that it won't be supported long term, desktop preamp form factor is annoying and for it's price tag I can buy a Lauten Clarion and it's a mic that in 20 years I'll still be able to use it without a software update or any bullshit like that.
It's my biggest fear of something like this. My neighbor's all about it, so when he gets it I'll give it a try, but I haven't been able to play with some of my old favorite plugins (decabuddy for example) due to no AAX support of old plugins. Slate's dragon is awesome - plugin modeled microphones though? In 20 years it'll be a clean microphone and preamp. Or sitting in a box on top of your HD2 pci-x cards
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 15, 2016 6:17:09 GMT -6
I'll take 32, plus 32 VP28s, loaded in a Fix Console! Great job, Jeff! And good luck with the move to Nash Vegas! Stu You know, for a 32 channel console - barring the console wood cost and using say, 10 space lindell racks ~25k for a 32 channel respectable console isn't bad! That fix console though...
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 14, 2016 11:35:18 GMT -6
If you have Craigslist, not sure about Europe, you find people selling them
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 13, 2016 20:53:38 GMT -6
Neve British A Console 1 emulation coming tomorrow. That's the big boy everyone's been waiting for. Hopefully expectations will be met... And it looks like it's just been pushed back to May on the Softube website. I hope it is because there is some additional announcement. I dont have money until may though anyway!
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Post by kilroyrock on Apr 13, 2016 20:49:58 GMT -6
I know this is herecy, but I would prefer an API emulation to the Neve. Definitely not heresy! I haven't been given enough examples of api magic recordings to really desire it but I think an API console could be awesome! I really like my tb12? What drives me up the wall is that I was raised in Maryland, and even went to jessup elementary. 2 miles from API my entire life. If I had been smart I would have figured out a way to work there, but nobody talked about this stuff when I was younger. I pleaded for a job there last year..got nothing!
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