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Post by jin167 on Apr 10, 2017 19:05:43 GMT -6
I have 6386 in mine. Mid honk? I'd say they either haven't used the unit and trolling or something is broken.
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Post by jin167 on Apr 9, 2017 6:09:12 GMT -6
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Post by jin167 on Apr 8, 2017 7:03:23 GMT -6
plugin sounds pretty good but it can't warm up your room like the hardware which is a great bonus during winter (hardware owner here btw)
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Post by jin167 on Apr 6, 2017 23:29:56 GMT -6
Flexible routing + pristine DA. Best in its price range if not the best monitor controller.
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Post by jin167 on Mar 6, 2017 3:31:41 GMT -6
heard it at a studio that specialises in jazz/classical music. It was okay but nothing spectacular. Nice bottom end but somewhat narrow stereo image. Is it worth 2k? Well.. not for me. very interesting to hear that. I just got this crazy custom adc built in italy [QES Labs] on friday. so far its amazing.weighs like 20 pounds lol.did my first real mix on it today. closest to the direct console feed I've ever heard. killed the Burl bomber.[buh bye $$] for kicks was thinking of grabbing a demo Brooklyn adc form VK to compare. my bad. I was talking about the brooklyn DAC. Dunno, ADC could be better than its DAC counterpart. Please do report back if you ever get to try the ADC.
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Post by jin167 on Mar 5, 2017 23:18:19 GMT -6
heard it at a studio that specialises in jazz/classical music. It was okay but nothing spectacular. Nice bottom end but somewhat narrow stereo image. Is it worth 2k? Well.. not for me.
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Post by jin167 on Feb 8, 2017 17:02:44 GMT -6
Nothing much has changed in terms of its functions. I think they've updated the faceplate and the PSU is now free volt. Same price as the previous version and I got mine from the Front End audio. Had to wait for 2 months to get the updated unit dangerousmusic.com/product/liaison/
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Post by jin167 on Feb 6, 2017 22:17:23 GMT -6
Just received an updated version of the Liaison
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Post by jin167 on Jan 12, 2017 4:45:34 GMT -6
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Post by jin167 on Jan 5, 2017 3:46:28 GMT -6
This is not Gearslutz ..... well I'm not sure what you mean but the title of the thread is meant to be sarcastic. But then again, recently I came to learn that there are many, many things that I don't fully understand..
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Post by jin167 on Jan 5, 2017 3:10:55 GMT -6
www.computeraudiophile.com/f7-disk-storage-music-library-storage/does-solid-state-drive-sound-better-hard-disk-1650/Because you've been missing out. A SSD will make your music sound quazillion times better! Seriously. Today, I've encountered a mastering guy who is supposedly working at one of the top mastering facility in my country saying that playing back music through a SSD will dramatically improve the quality of the sound. At first I thought of this as a cheeky joke but man was I wrong. He wasn't joking. Of course, he didn't have any experimental data or a sensible theory to back up his claim (as expected) but he was dead serious about this. Now, I've heard some folks talking about a HDD noise affecting the PSU of a computer and this in turn affecting the performance of a device operating on a USB power, degrading the quality of the output which I think is understandable but we are talking about a professional mastering facility. Ever heard of a mastering facility using anything running on a USB power? I don't know. Maybe there is something I haven't figured out yet. It would have been really helpful if that mastering dude had a sensible explanation for his observation rather than 'I trust my ears' repertoire because, well, I don't. Anyone on this board have any idea on this particular topic?
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Post by jin167 on Dec 4, 2016 17:10:19 GMT -6
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Post by jin167 on Nov 25, 2016 6:24:16 GMT -6
I mainly want to call into question the idea that software does 'no sound' or 'clean' better. It frequently does not. Everything adds distortion. are you making this statement based on your mathematical knowledge or just your personal perception?
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 21:22:39 GMT -6
I find a lot of fairly expensive gear that 'adds no sound' is much better at it than plugs. If you have that impression and can afford it, I'm certain you're happy to own whatever does that for you. More features are frequently a path to worse sound and reliability. You may be paying somewhat for the benefit of that informed judgment. Maybe additional features were auditioned and proved less beneficial than the resulting compromise was worth. Space should foremost be a matter of ergonomics and best technical solutions, solutions being a series of informed judgement calls. If that call is brute force use of space based on prototype testing, it would be a red herring to criticize the fact the space wasn't packed with additional features. Back to ergonomics, the panel height does not suggest a lot of space for additional features. I haven't seen a single mastering guy who works a 40 hour week say "gee i wish this piece had more smaller knobs with less space between them so i'd have more features." If anything, they tend to say "gee i wish this piece had larger more tactile controls so i could have a more intuitive driver experience, which would allow more focus on the ears versus the hands and eyes." Those guys tend to pick boxes for singular features anyway, often ignoring many of the things available on a particular box, and adding boxes based solely on the box having been judged best at one particular application. I've seen guys with 2-3 high end EQ's in series using particular bands on each one, ignoring others because "they dont sound good." Again, I've no idea what it sounds like, nor do I see a reason to feel the piece represents highway robbery. I'm sure there are people out there who would not hesitate to spend absurd $$$ only to use one band of an EQ. Sure. It's their money and I don't care how they spend them. Me? I would like to get what I pay for. After seeing what Mr. Knif is capable of making Maselec looks like a joke to me tbh.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 20:17:23 GMT -6
jin167 can you explain more in layman terms why you think the prism maselec eq is not worth $6915? What abou t is layout and design strike a nerve with you? Remember simple terms so us bumpkins can understand:) I don't think I've made any technical comments in this particular thread. Leave that to the experienced engineers like Mr. Williams, Svart, or EMRR. My complaints are: 1. If there's so much space left inside of a chassis at least try to add more useful features like M/S matrix and in/bypass for each band. 2. If more features can't be added for whatever the reason, then why is it so expensive? Like Mr. Williams said, they aren't using parts that are crazy expensive (apart from the switches. But even then, $7k?). 3. This one is personal. There is nothing special about this unit in terms of its sound. Sure, it's a mastering eq and it's not meant to sound like anything according to some people but then why pay $7k for something that does exactly what a plug in EQ can do equally well or even better. Thus why I've decided to go with Soma. I have his Vari Mu II and it's worth every single cent I've spent on it and I trust Soma will be the same.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 19:04:06 GMT -6
Fair reasoning. But then again.. if you are going to charge $7k for something at least try to use that empty space to add more features you know.. does nothing more than a typical stereo eq. Not if that space is there to eliminate problems caused by inductive coupling. Poor layout is one of the major problems in much of today's less expensive gear. There are other ways of eliminating inductive coupling issues. Space is the cheapest way and I don't expect to see cheap solutions on a unit that costs $7k.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 19:01:56 GMT -6
past a certain price point 'sounds good' should be a bare minimum requirement. On top of sounding good it should be able to offer extra functionalities that allow its user to achieve more with less time & effort. This particular piece of gear does none of that. IME it sounded like nothing which some people may prefer but to me, a well designed plugin EQ will do the same at the fraction of a cost. Do you own the maselec mea-2? Was planning on having one. I've cancelled that plan after hearing one & seeing what's inside of it. I'm getting this instead www.knifaudio.com/cgi-bin/view_eng.cgi?page=soma
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 9:40:04 GMT -6
past a certain price point 'sounds good' should be a bare minimum requirement. On top of sounding good it should be able to offer extra functionalities that allow its user to achieve more with less time & effort. This particular piece of gear does none of that. IME it sounded like nothing which some people may prefer but to me, a well designed plugin EQ will do the same at the fraction of a cost.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 9:18:03 GMT -6
Yes, I've heard the maselec mea2 and although it sounded good it didn't sound $7k good. Not sure about the IBIS but I had a chance to look at the innards of the Buzz unit and I can understand why it costs so much money. I haven't heard anything that sounds $7k good. Good point. Me neither..
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 9:04:16 GMT -6
Seen better or equally good sounding eqs with more features and better components for less $$$. Have you heard the Maselec EQ? What eq's do you think sound better for less? The Buzz is more money. The SPL PQ is more. IBIS is more. Massive Passive and API 5500 are less, but are color pieces. All the clean Mastering eq's go for high dough. Yes, I've heard the maselec mea2 and although it sounded good it didn't sound $7k good. Not sure about the IBIS but I had a chance to look at the innards of the Buzz unit and I can understand why it costs so much money.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 8:58:35 GMT -6
Fair reasoning. But then again.. if you are going to charge $7k for something at least try to use that empty space to add more features you know.. does nothing more than a typical stereo eq. Precision matched switches so both channels match and your frequency and gains are accurate. Precision recall. Those are things that cost a premium. What additional features do you want in a Mastering EQ? M/S matrix, possibility of an in/bypass function for each band would be a good starting point.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 8:54:49 GMT -6
Bears little relation. Market effect long term is a different question. If they need to make that mark to keep it in production, they will either get it, or not, and it will be available, or not. which I don't really care about. I am seeing things from a customers point of view.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 8:46:28 GMT -6
You would buy it based on the brainpower that went into it and the way it sounded. Or you could try EQing with some silicon off the beach. Seen better or equally good sounding eqs with more features and better components for less $$$.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 8:45:11 GMT -6
yeah and I was quiet shocked when I saw those photos for the first time. But this thing is on a different level... wasted space lvl 9999.. and it costs $2000 more, ha. I think it has so much space for a couple reasons though. The rotary switches and knobs physically take up a bunch of space on the faceplate. You can't fit that stuff comfortably on a 1 or 2 space unit. I assume the PS is towards the back with the gap in the middle to help keep the power separate from the audio path. FWIW, the Passeq sounds great, but I wouldn't spend $5k on it. Fair reasoning. But then again.. if you are going to charge $7k for something at least try to use that empty space to add more features you know.. does nothing more than a typical stereo eq.
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Post by jin167 on Nov 24, 2016 8:19:36 GMT -6
yeah and I was quiet shocked when I saw those photos for the first time. But this thing is on a different level... wasted space lvl 9999.. and it costs $2000 more, ha.
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