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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 31, 2018 12:34:42 GMT -6
I haven't plugged mine into the speakers yet..but i noticed that on my dBX560a when i crank the output..with nothing plugged in..the last 3 LEDs light up the output meter.
That can't be good..
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Post by brenta on Dec 31, 2018 15:12:29 GMT -6
I got my Klark Teknik KT-2A set up and put it through the paces on a couple of songs I'm mixing. Holy crap this thing is a great deal.
It's got a different color than a real LA-2A, but still sounds great. The compressor action is similar if not the same.
I had a Warm WA-2A for a while and it didn't do it for me. I thought it lacked low end and didn't have much color. It would work well as a somewhat transparent vocal comp, but I'd rather use an Aphex for that which is much more flexible and cheaper. I liked the UAD and Waves LA-2A plugins better so I decided it was pointless to have the Warm around.
The KT-2A on the other hand sounds big, fat, and warm. I tried it on a bass track that I had the Waves CLA-2A on and it beat that. I then tried it on some female vocals that I had a UAD LA-2A on and it sounded bigger than the plugin. With the price and 10 year warranty this is just an unbelievable value. I'm almost 100% ITB for mixing but I think this will be my new go-to tracking comp for bass and vocals.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 31, 2018 15:45:38 GMT -6
I think the KT-2A is on my shortlist at this point... thanks for the review!
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 31, 2018 16:25:30 GMT -6
I would love to have a business model where my warranty / repair philosophy is "throw it in the trash and replace". Because that's way cheaper and easier than dealing with a return, repairing it, and then sending it back. My gut tells me any build cost under $50 would qualify for that model quite nicely. Cynicism aside, it's also likely they just have a QC/production test process that is dialed in for a low failure rate. The build is mostly SMT. Pick and place machines are pretty darn consistent... Part failures could be easily caught in an automated audio test using an AP audio analyzer. Brad OT, my son bought an office desk online. It was huge, an exec desk made of MDF covered with vinyl, looks great but it's fake. 'Way better than Target furniture. Weighed a ton. Like 150 lbs, shipped flat. It was delivered with one corner dinged in shipping. They did not want it back, and shipped him another one. It too had a minor dinged corner. (Sounds like they didn't get the packaging right.) He kept it, now he's trying to get rid of the first one. It might wind up as firewood this holiday. MDF doesn't make good firewood. IIRC it emits toxic smoke. It has a VERY high percentage of glue, which is why it's so damned heavy.
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 31, 2018 16:30:26 GMT -6
On another website, they mentioned the "Music Store" (Europe) was selling the KT units for le$$ vs. USA. Chris I got my L10 from Thomann in the UK for 223 shipped. It's much cheaper over there for some reason. Shipping takes a while though. Worth it though Tariff war with China, I bet!
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Post by 000 on Dec 31, 2018 18:14:38 GMT -6
Seriously considering cancelling my order for the L10 and picking up the Lindell instead. Anyone have experiences with the Lindell units? Would really rather avoid adding oscillating noise to my tracks.
As a side note the EQP and KT2A have found a nice home in my rack. Both completely useable designs that def add some analog goodness.
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 31, 2018 19:18:48 GMT -6
Seriously considering cancelling my order for the L10 and picking up the Lindell instead. Anyone have experiences with the Lindell units? Would really rather avoid adding oscillating noise to my tracks. As a side note the EQP and KT2A have found a nice home in my rack. Both completely useable designs that def add some analog goodness. I have the lindell first version and like it a lot. Never gave me issues. The new version is better with db25 connections. Would recommend
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Post by 000 on Dec 31, 2018 22:39:46 GMT -6
Awesome - I have access to a really good deal on a closeout Lindell piece.
Also - not sure if I’m looking at 500 series for preamps so much. Does anyone who may know more than myself have any comment on whether the potential noise generated by the L10 would have the same effect on something like an eq (right now just looking for a home for a pair of Electra’s and Clariphonics)?
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Post by EmRR on Jan 1, 2019 4:08:50 GMT -6
Does anyone who may know more than myself have any comment on whether the potential noise generated by the L10 would have the same effect on something like an eq? Think about it: Preamp = max gain, EQ = unity gain, excepting boosts. It'll still be there, but way down in comparison.
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Post by miscend on Jan 1, 2019 21:26:04 GMT -6
I’ve had no issues with Lindell lunchboxes other than the lack of frills.
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 1, 2019 22:12:35 GMT -6
Thought I'd update this with my L10 thoughts.
It made bad noise in my modules. I sold it this week. Would not recommend it. Others are find it to be the same.
Kt2a is still fine though.
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Post by Guitar on Feb 2, 2019 15:17:01 GMT -6
A chap of mine ran some tracks through a KT-2A and I thought it sounded quite good!
I also had someone do an 1176KT, and a Warm WA76... they were pretty close, the Warm had a little more sparkle and pretty sound, the KT was a little more gritty and scooped. Very subtle difference.
I've got to get these here to shoot out with my UAD plugins. I think the 2A will be different but I'm wondering how close the 1176 will be.
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Post by notneeson on Feb 3, 2019 15:01:17 GMT -6
A chap of mine ran some tracks through a KT-2A and I thought it sounded quite good! I also had someone do an 1176KT, and a Warm WA76... they were pretty close, the Warm had a little more sparkle and pretty sound, the KT was a little more gritty and scooped. Very subtle difference. I've got to get these here to shoot out with my UAD plugins. I think the 2A will be different but I'm wondering how close the 1176 will be. I bought the KT76 because of the Thomann price, but I really think the Warm is great. I put it (the WA) after a Retro 176 on vox one day and that’s actually what got the client got super excited about the vocal! That said, I’m really digging the two KTs in series on vox, it’s a great iteration of the opto into fet thing. (Or vice versa)
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Post by notneeson on Feb 14, 2019 11:54:59 GMT -6
A chap of mine ran some tracks through a KT-2A and I thought it sounded quite good! I also had someone do an 1176KT, and a Warm WA76... they were pretty close, the Warm had a little more sparkle and pretty sound, the KT was a little more gritty and scooped. Very subtle difference. I've got to get these here to shoot out with my UAD plugins. I think the 2A will be different but I'm wondering how close the 1176 will be. I bought the KT76 because of the Thomann price, but I really think the Warm is great. I put it (the WA) after a Retro 176 on vox one day and that’s actually what got the client got super excited about the vocal! That said, I’m really digging the two KTs in series on vox, it’s a great iteration of the opto into fet thing. (Or vice versa) Just for fun: here's the ol' KT FET and Opto in series rig going down live on vox:
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 14, 2019 12:07:55 GMT -6
I bought the KT76 because of the Thomann price, but I really think the Warm is great. I put it (the WA) after a Retro 176 on vox one day and that’s actually what got the client got super excited about the vocal! That said, I’m really digging the two KTs in series on vox, it’s a great iteration of the opto into fet thing. (Or vice versa) Just for fun: here's the ol' KT FET and Opto in series rig going down live on vox: I only listened on my cell phone but damn, sounds great, what a refreshingly great performance.
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Post by pope on Feb 14, 2019 12:16:45 GMT -6
I bought the KT76 because of the Thomann price, but I really think the Warm is great. I put it (the WA) after a Retro 176 on vox one day and that’s actually what got the client got super excited about the vocal! That said, I’m really digging the two KTs in series on vox, it’s a great iteration of the opto into fet thing. (Or vice versa) Just for fun: here's the ol' KT FET and Opto in series rig going down live on vox: Bookmarked! Excellent!
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Post by subspace on Feb 17, 2019 8:51:28 GMT -6
Yeah, the Klark Teknik/Midas prices are going to fill a lot of racks up real quick. I re-configured last summer and moved everything digital out of my front outboard rack to make room. It now has in the 12 angled spaces on top: (2) 1U TNC ACMP84s, (2) 1U dbx 160XTs, a 2U ART Pro VLA II, a 2U A-Designs Hammer, and (2) 2U K-T EQP-KTs. There are 10 spaces free on the bottom of the rack, opened up in July for the (2) Stam 1073EQs (HAHAHA!) which will now be getting a 2U KT-2A shipping tomorrow. Add a 3U Midas L10 in there and suddenly my spacious rack will only have 3 spaces left. On the up(down?)side, I'll move my CAPI VP312, FC526 and 2 dbx 560As out of my Aphex table-top and have room to build my second VP312 and FC526 kits sitting here. I'm saving so much money I may go broke... I tracked a three piece band yesterday using all the Klark Teknik/Midas gear added to the rack in the last two months. Tracking compressors in use; Kick in - 160XT Snare top - 160XT Bass DI - KT-2A Acoustic DI - 1176-KT Vocal - FC526 in the Midas L10 rack No ground-breaking choices there, but it was like an easy button for the monitor mix, simple to set-up and locked the key elements into place. The KT-2A, 1176-KT and L10 are a great addition to the rack for $750. I also purchased two MXL Revelations for $700 last week to try on overheads; Impressive first outing, gave a balanced, smooth sounding picture of the kit. Going to try them on vocal tracking next...
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Post by notneeson on Feb 17, 2019 10:26:30 GMT -6
subspace What's the deal with those Revelations? How did you get hip to them?
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Post by subspace on Feb 17, 2019 11:18:30 GMT -6
I was shopping LDC pairs and beginning to suffer from 47/67/87/12/251 fatigue. Ran across a two year old post about blow-out prices on MXL's flagship variable pattern mic and got curious if there were any still around. I don't think I even remember it being released, probably because it was a $1,500 MXL and I would've scrolled right on by. I imagine that's why there's not a lot of info out there on them. I got a daily deal e-mail from PSSL last Saturday, $700 for a pair, and decided it's not much of a gamble at that price. So far these are a different animal than other China sourced mics I've tried, smooth is not usually the first descriptor that jumps to mind for them. Only oddity is the continuously variable pattern control mutes the mic when dialed from fig-8 to omni, but it works fine dialing from omni toward fig-8 during comparisons.
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 17, 2019 11:42:18 GMT -6
I was shopping LDC pairs and beginning to suffer from 47/67/87/12/251 fatigue. Ran across a two year old post about blow-out prices on MXL's flagship variable pattern mic and got curious if there were any still around. I don't think I even remember it being released, probably because it was a $1,500 MXL and I would've scrolled right on by. I imagine that's why there's not a lot of info out there on them. I got a daily deal e-mail from PSSL last Saturday, $700 for a pair, and decided it's not much of a gamble at that price. So far these are a different animal than other China sourced mics I've tried, smooth is not usually the first descriptor that jumps to mind for them. Only oddity is the continuously variable pattern control mutes the mic when dialed from fig-8 to omni, but it works fine dialing from omni toward fig-8 during comparisons. Interested to hear what you think of them. I owned a pair and used them for rooms and oh and occasionally vocals. I bought them at a crazy good price (about $700 a pair also) after mxl gave me one to demo. They had their uses but I suspect the built quality isn’t very consistent. The first mic I originally demoed sounded awesome, on electric guitar it saturated in the most beautiful way. Thick and lush. The two I bought didn’t have nearly the same sense of euphoria, and were a little harsher in the upper mids. I eventually sold them. Let me know what you think.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 28, 2019 23:45:46 GMT -6
I bought the KT76 because of the Thomann price, but I really think the Warm is great. I put it (the WA) after a Retro 176 on vox one day and that’s actually what got the client got super excited about the vocal! That said, I’m really digging the two KTs in series on vox, it’s a great iteration of the opto into fet thing. (Or vice versa) Just for fun: here's the ol' KT FET and Opto in series rig going down live on vox: What’s the microphone?
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Post by notneeson on Dec 29, 2019 10:27:50 GMT -6
Just for fun: here's the ol' KT FET and Opto in series rig going down live on vox: What’s the microphone? WA47.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 29, 2019 13:55:18 GMT -6
Cool! Happy with that mic? I listened on BandCamp and it sounded much better to me for some reason.
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Post by notneeson on Dec 29, 2019 17:00:34 GMT -6
Cool! Happy with that mic? I listened on BandCamp and it sounded much better to me for some reason. There's only one master in existence, so they should both be from the same source. I suppose the video render could have been lossy, I wasn't there for that. I have definitely stumbled across lossy versions of great sounding records on youtube from time to time, so I know what you're describing is a real phenomenon. Anyway, The WA47 is a very nice mic at a very reasonable price, no regrets here. It does something very cool on certain male singers.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 29, 2019 22:29:13 GMT -6
It's my favorite microphone, within the Warm line. Very nice-both the recording and the microphone! Chris
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