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Post by Guitar on Nov 28, 2018 8:35:03 GMT -6
Midas L10 Lunchbox $300 for 10 spaces! yikes Midas L6 $250
Midas 500 EQ, Preamp, Compressor $250 each
Klark Teknik
1176 $400 KT-2A $400
I'm sort of glad I waited now on the "big" ones.
Very glad I sent my $500 L10 back last month, that would have burned.
From the Thomann.de prices you could just sort of sense that they were going to come down elsewhere.
I'll probably end up with a few of these. Either Sweetwater payment plans or Front End Audio when they run the 15% off sale.
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Post by subspace on Nov 28, 2018 9:12:50 GMT -6
I've got a 15% off KT-2A incoming from Front End Audio, off to hunt markdowns on the L10 lunchbox now...
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 9:43:22 GMT -6
I've got a 15% off KT-2A incoming from Front End Audio, off to hunt markdowns on the L10 lunchbox now... Same, KT2a on the way for 360 or something. Too good a price. Hopefully its a decent unit. Thats really cheap for a lunch box. Im always wary about those and the PSU though as 500serise stuff is very sensitive to power needs.
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Post by adamjbrass on Nov 28, 2018 9:44:03 GMT -6
Hopefully its a decent unit. it really is
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 9:45:11 GMT -6
Hopefully its a decent unit. it really is I keep hearing that. So that is good haha
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 28, 2018 9:51:23 GMT -6
Very glad I sent my $500 L10 back last month, that would have burned. Why did you send it back?
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Post by Ward on Nov 28, 2018 9:59:02 GMT -6
Very glad I sent my $500 L10 back last month, that would have burned. Why did you send it back? I'm very curious about this also!! If it's up to scratch, a $300 10-space 500 chassis is a no-brainer for me and many others. The chassis would be great for visiting engineers or for trying out pieces of kit between a group of us. So, please let us know what the issue was Guitar ! Thanks in advance
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Post by adamjbrass on Nov 28, 2018 10:03:24 GMT -6
I keep hearing that. So that is good haha I really like it. But at this point, I might just keep waiting until they are $3.99
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Post by Guitar on Nov 28, 2018 10:11:15 GMT -6
Hey jcoutu1 and Ward it's a convoluted and somewhat uneventful story I had money burning a hole in my pocket. OK I'll grab an LTL Mr Focus. Nope they don't accept PP credit. OK I'll grab a CAPI VP28 finally... NOPE jeff goes on a well deserved vacation. So I'm sitting here staring at this empty 10 slot rack, and I'm like... there is no way I will ever fill this up in fewer than 3-5 years. Then I saw the Thomann prices and I'm like, OK, I'll get my $500 refund and order overseas, save the cash towards something else. Then I'm like FUCK IT I really want to buy the Black Beauty snare drum I was obsessed over about 4 weeks ago. So yeah, I think I'm going to get that Black Beauty in December. I may or may not add another L10 at a later date for my racks. The problem is my rack space is limited and I need to fill it with a Serpent LA3A, Serpent bus compressor, Possibly a Hariball 1176 or a KT, possibly a DIY DUAL LA-2A or the KT, and maybe even finish the big Sontec projetc I ordered. I'm also planning a 4 channel Hardy M1 build eventually. So space is at a bit of a premium for me. TL/DR -- I use an L6 for my main preamps. I have no problems with the gear. In fact I find it to be very well built and sturdy/solid. I would have no problem changing my L6 to an L10 if I want to add a bunch of VP28 or something for drums down the road. I've just been having money/impulse issues this month and have had to re-think my racks as my space starts to get smaller and smaller. I want to max out this rig and then just stop thinking about it completely.... yeah right, who am I kidding... that is going to take a few years to accomplish anyway. Comparing the Midas L10 to the API 500V that I also have, there is no real practical difference other than the API has an outboard PSU, and the Midas an internal PSU. Also you need a Torx T10 driver for the midas gear. API uses standard phillips head. I got a Torx set for $6 at Lowes. In actual usage, there is no practical difference other than a massive price differential, and the logo on the front. The MIDAS actually has an advantage of linking 1 > 2, 2 > 3 and so on. So you can build channel strips this way if you want to. API does not have that feature. I've noticed no practical difference in noise performance or anything like that either. The only thing I might do on the Midas is pry that ugly logo off the front with a razor when it's out of warranty.
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 10:15:02 GMT -6
Lol that is funny
It doesn't take long to fill a 500 rack IMO. Though I only buy in stereo sets..
Plus a 500 rack is actually the best use of rack space honestly..
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Post by Guitar on Nov 28, 2018 10:28:38 GMT -6
Lol that is funny It doesn't take long to fill a 500 rack IMO. Though I only buy in stereo sets.. Plus a 500 rack is actually the best use of rack space honestly.. Yes... sometimes I feel like I am in need of some "scheme" to keep my mind occupied. So the big Thomann overseas thing was my "scheme." Then it just became waiting a few weeks for the Black Beauty (one of the ultimate recording snare drums). I also tend to do 500 series in pairs. I broke up my 560A pair this month though because I want to make room for more Hairball FET/500. I feel like those are a more bad ass slot than a dbx to have in my actual arm's reach. My initial Midas L10 scheme was just exactly what you said, cram a bunch in there. Then I thought about all the 1U, 2U, 3U projects I've got on the back burner.... I kind of want some "big gear" in here. I only have space for about 3.5 racks in my current location, and most of them are already filled or somewhat filled with stuff I don't want to get rid of.
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Post by Ward on Nov 28, 2018 10:42:27 GMT -6
Hey jcoutu1 and Ward The only thing I might do on the Midas is pry that ugly logo off the front with a razor when it's out of warranty. Be careful!! There might be a B-e-h-r-i ... logo underneath!!
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Post by subspace on Nov 28, 2018 11:01:43 GMT -6
Yeah, the Klark-Teknik/Midas prices are going to fill a lot of racks up real quick. I re-configured last summer and moved everything digital out of my front outboard rack to make room. It now has in the 12 angled spaces on top: (2) 1U TNC ACMP84s, (2) 1U dbx 160XTs, a 2U ART Pro VLA II, a 2U A-Designs Hammer, and (2) 2U K-T EQP-KTs. There are 10 spaces free on the bottom of the rack, opened up in July for the (2) Stam 1073EQs (HAHAHA!) which will now be getting a 2U KT-2A shipping tomorrow. Add a 3U Midas L10 in there and suddenly my spacious rack will only have 3 spaces left. On the up(down?)side, I'll move my CAPI VP312, FC526 and 2 dbx 560As out of my Aphex table-top and have room to build my second VP312 and FC526 kits sitting here. I'm saving so much money I may go broke...
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 11:11:10 GMT -6
Lol that is funny It doesn't take long to fill a 500 rack IMO. Though I only buy in stereo sets.. Plus a 500 rack is actually the best use of rack space honestly.. Yes... sometimes I feel like I am in need of some "scheme" to keep my mind occupied. So the big Thomann overseas thing was my "scheme." Then it just became waiting a few weeks for the Black Beauty (one of the ultimate recording snare drums). I also tend to do 500 series in pairs. I broke up my 560A pair this month though because I want to make room for more Hairball FET/500. I feel like those are a more bad ass slot than a dbx to have in my actual arm's reach. My initial Midas L10 scheme was just exactly what you said, cram a bunch in there. Then I thought about all the 1U, 2U, 3U projects I've got on the back burner.... I kind of want some "big gear" in here. I only have space for about 3.5 racks in my current location, and most of them are already filled or somewhat filled with stuff I don't want to get rid of. Tell me about it. I have an SB4001 I need to finish. Plus a custom TAC PSU for 3 TAC511 racks for my custom "console". Want a DIYRacked MB2 kit and MQ5 kit to build and an SA-3A kit as well. Throw in about 20 ML2 modules(eventually) and a Sumbus. So I feel you there. I don't even have racks yet at my own place. So I have a long time to think about it all. Also have 16ch on NeoTek 1 series strips I need to rack up in pairs.
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Post by wlinart on Nov 28, 2018 11:39:39 GMT -6
Midas L10 Lunchbox $300 for 10 spaces! yikes Midas L6 $250 Midas 500 EQ, Preamp, Compressor $250 each Klark Teknik 1176 $400 KT-2A $400 I'm sort of glad I waited now on the "big" ones. Very glad I sent my $500 L10 back last month, that would have burned. From the Thomann.de prices you could just sort of sense that they were going to come down elsewhere. I'll probably end up with a few of these. Either Sweetwater payment plans or Front End Audio when they run the 15% off sale. This one time i'm happy to live in Europe, most of the time everything is way more expensive in Europe.
1176: €200 (ordered 2 of them)
pultec: €200 (ordered 2 of them) midas l10: €200 midas l6: €180 midas 500 eq: €180 preamp: €150 comp: €150
Lucky us
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 28, 2018 11:48:24 GMT -6
Midas L10 Lunchbox $300 for 10 spaces! yikes Midas L6 $250 Midas 500 EQ, Preamp, Compressor $250 each Klark Teknik 1176 $400 KT-2A $400 I'm sort of glad I waited now on the "big" ones. Very glad I sent my $500 L10 back last month, that would have burned. From the Thomann.de prices you could just sort of sense that they were going to come down elsewhere. I'll probably end up with a few of these. Either Sweetwater payment plans or Front End Audio when they run the 15% off sale. This one time i'm happy to live in Europe, most of the time everything is way more expensive in Europe.
1176: €200 (ordered 2 of them)
pultec: €200 (ordered 2 of them) midas l10: €200 midas l6: €180 midas 500 eq: €180 preamp: €150 comp: €150
Lucky us Where did you buy?
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 12:11:37 GMT -6
Yeah at that price its even worth buying and possibly shipping internationally haha
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 12:44:56 GMT -6
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Post by brenta on Nov 28, 2018 12:51:26 GMT -6
That's some crazy aggressive pricing, China tariffs be damned. I wonder if Behringer is consciously trying to kill Warm Audio or if they have determined that these are actually the most profitable price points on this stuff.
Unfortunately I just pulled the trigger on a Wesaudio Supercarrier II, which on paper appears to be a superior chassis to the L10, but in practical use who knows.
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Post by ragan on Nov 28, 2018 12:52:30 GMT -6
I’m gonna have to do that.
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 12:57:09 GMT -6
That's some crazy aggressive pricing, China tariffs be damned. I wonder if Behringer is consciously trying to kill Warm Audio or if they have determined that these are actually the most profitable price points on this stuff. Unfortunately I just pulled the trigger on a Wesaudio Supercarrier II, which on paper appears to be a superior chassis to the L10, but in practical use who knows. Not sure. Is crazy low. Same site has the KT2a for more but the 1176 and EQ by KT is also only 167 Euros or about 190 bucks. Wow. Yeah Im a bit wary about the L10. Though Id imagine if you have units with a low power drawn, be hard pressed to matter much. I have a Lindell MK1 and it does just fine.. I’m gonna have to do that. I have it in my cart..thinking about it. Not sure though.
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Post by subspace on Nov 28, 2018 13:10:31 GMT -6
Damn you. The L10 rack and 76-KT are both 167 euros now, shipping to AZ was 30 euros for either unit or both so I went with both. That's $750 this week for the KT-2A, 76-KT and L10 500 rack, I can't afford to save any more money.
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 13:13:33 GMT -6
Damn you. The L10 rack and 76-KT are both 167 euros now, shipping to AZ was 30 euros for either unit or both so I went with both. That's $750 this week for the KT-2A, 76-KT and L10 500 rack, I can't afford to save any more money. HA! I literally went through the same thought process as you. However haven't pulled the trigger..haha
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Post by sirthought on Nov 28, 2018 13:16:07 GMT -6
Do you guys know if ordering from Thomann is there any concern about how power is set up for those units to run in the U.S.?
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 28, 2018 13:24:29 GMT -6
Do you guys know if ordering from Thomann is there any concern about how power is set up for those units to run in the U.S.? Good point. Still shows it as a normal IEC connection. And you can clearly change it to USD and shipping to US. Would think you'd get the right one..
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