Liqoudsonics 7th Heaven

Deleted because I mixed up two brands...

Had no idea what this was...Apparently a Bricasti M7 emu...Damn, kcatthedog, talk about burying the lede!

Damnit...I guess I'm gonna have to try it. I'm such a sucker. Didn't they do the Bricasti stuff in the Slate thing? Any difference?

Might download the demo and compare to some of the other IRs

Downloading right now, but I guess its similar to the Verbsuite by Slate???

My I thought slate contracted liquid sonics? Or was it another company who helped/ co-designed Slate Verb Suite?

mrholmes

What material/ audio did you test the LS 7th Heaven vs the Verb Suite?
Which do you find easier to dial in and get the sound you are going for?

What are the prices for the 7th heaven?

I quote myself because I could not resist and used a few Hardware M7 files.

The professional Liquid Sonics version gives you some kind of M7 sound, but that was it.
With a lot of tweaking the ERs  are some kind similar but the late reflections are nothing but metallic sounding compared to the hardware files.

As soon you hear the real hardware compared to plug ins - you are bumfucked.

My advise:
You should not do such an AB test.
As soon you do it you want a real M7 unit and you will hate all your old reverb options.
The hardware sounds like tracking in a real room and it takes milliseconds to be hooked by the details the M7 creates.

that's fine

I babysat one for cowboy for a couple of days. Didn't even get it hooked up. I think cowboycoalminer sold it.

Sacralidge !

The Pro Version can get you more dense ER and different ER patterns.

I will follow this project and see if he gets closer to the HW one day.

I yet wait for a plug in that can recreate realty in a believable way.

No worries MrHolmes - I just read your earlier post about its metallic sound.

I've played around with it a bit on 88 and 96 sessions. Mainly on some rock and metal stuff using fan instrumentals and rock band type tracks. One bedroom rock song with a DI Guitar I ran through CLA Guitars and fake drums. Finished a Rap song but my Z800 won't stay powered on long enough for me to bounce it(it worked awesome with Rap too). For my taste, the pro version is better than any software reverb I've tried. It really does blend in with the source well. When I use it on vocals I record to mix in with Rock Band songs, it's very "that's more like it". I have always had my suspicions that a lot of these software reverbs make compromises and don't give the full picture one might get from a classic hardware reverb from the 80s.

The level of blending can change depending on the preset. Did any of you guys read what Gary Lionelli said on the Vi-control forum? He's saying it's indistinguishable from his hardware for the most part when you're comparing presets. Upon visiting his website, I learned Gary is a composer for some well-known TV shows and movies. I haven't really found anything else where someone claimed to have tested the unit and plug side by side. mrholmes, is there a place where we can hear those hardware files? I'm very curious about them. You were correct about how you can crank SHP and it still sounding good.

I've been using one instance w/Vocal Shimmer for all the vocals, one instance w/Music Forest for all the music tracks, and Saint Gerold as an insert on the master fader after VCC/BX_Console/ProQ2/API2500 and before NLS and L2. Usually set the mix knob on the MF insert to -18.5 or -15. I tried that bc I read Casey ran a whole jazz band through an M7. When I tried putting Tsar-1 on the MF instead, it just didn't work-was like the opposite of glue. I imagine this would be the case with most other software reverbs too. SHP is very good at giving cohesion to vocal harmonies and also at keeping up with wordy, fast-moving vocal songs. It doesn't seem to create any problems or color the sound in any sorta detrimental way. Low cpu mode makes it sound more like the regular SH, thinner and less cohesive. The regular one is still usable but it's missing Saint Gerold and other good V1 presets along with all the V2. I've compared the same presets in Altiverb with depth and speed on versus SHP and I think the Altiverb gets maybe 75% of the way there, if that. Have not compared it to Verbsuite but it sounds like the consensus is that SHP is a league above it.

I like the results I get better than what H-Reverb and Abbey Road Plates yield. And SHP seems to use a lot less cpu than those. I've not tried it against any of the Exponential stuff. Just in mixes where I previously used Lexicon MPX, Rverb, Altiverb, Tsar-1, ARP, H-Reverb, Blackhole, Trueverb, and maybe a couple others I'm forgetting. Still quite a few presets I need to try. There hasn't been a lot of tweaking inside SHP by me, I do most tweaks with bx_console and it's usually just the gate and compression. Also used EQ7 stock from PT to cut highs and lows before going in and/or VLB902 to de-ess before SHP. I bought it because it delivered the goods for me better and faster than anything else I've ever tried.