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Post by roundbadge on Feb 17, 2017 16:15:53 GMT -6
I'm honestly really happy with the Redds,Neves,capis and now the Skibbe Flickingers. RB - Did you have a change of heart on the Skibbe Flickingers? I thought you panned them on the purple site. If so, what changed your opinion of them? Stu A Proud Member of the Flickinger Clan yeah I had borrowed a pair a few years ago. Recorded a bunch of stuff and at the end thought "eh whatever".. moved on. Heard those tracks recently and thought "what the hell,that sounds good" Got another pair in here.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Feb 17, 2017 17:45:29 GMT -6
Funny enough Geoff and I became best of friends because of my hiring him to build a console for me. We basically laid it out, and designed it together.
But here's the funny (albeit sad) part. I took a large loan, actually a equipment lease to pay for this thing. Paid it off in 5 years.. But it took 2 more years for the console to be delivered.
First time in my life I paid the equipment off, before the gear was even in my possession. Haha
And because I already had a buyer for my (console at the time) Neotek console, once I found out my Daking console was gonna be a bit late, I ordered the VTC...
As you can probably surmise, I'm always on the lookout for something different. Don't want what everyone else has.
Even that took a year, as it was only in development when I ordered it. And mine was the first installed in a studio in the US.
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Post by mulmany on Feb 17, 2017 19:48:40 GMT -6
Funny enough Geoff and I became best of friends because of my hiring him to build a console for me. We basically laid it out, and designed it together. But here's the funny (albeit sad) part. I took a large loan, actually a equipment lease to pay for this thing. Paid it off in 5 years.. But it took 2 more years for the console to be delivered. First time in my life I paid the equipment off, before the gear was even in my possession. Haha And because I already had a buyer for my (console at the time) Neotek console, once I found out my Daking console was gonna be a bit late, I ordered the VTC... As you can probably surmise, I'm always on the lookout for something different. Don't want what everyone else has. Even that took a year, as it was only in development when I ordered it. And mine was the first installed in a studio in the US. So... What happened to the Daking?
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Post by roundbadge on Feb 18, 2017 1:14:05 GMT -6
Funny enough Geoff and I became best of friends because of my hiring him to build a console for me. We basically laid it out, and designed it together. But here's the funny (albeit sad) part. I took a large loan, actually a equipment lease to pay for this thing. Paid it off in 5 years.. But it took 2 more years for the console to be delivered. First time in my life I paid the equipment off, before the gear was even in my possession. Haha And because I already had a buyer for my (console at the time) Neotek console, once I found out my Daking console was gonna be a bit late, I ordered the VTC... As you can probably surmise, I'm always on the lookout for something different. Don't want what everyone else has. Even that took a year, as it was only in development when I ordered it. And mine was the first installed in a studio in the US. Wow,great story.I still adore my vertical 52270's I got direct from Geoff in late '93. His new console MK2 looks stunning. you still have the tube console right?
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Post by channelcat on Feb 18, 2017 7:49:14 GMT -6
RB - Did you have a change of heart on the Skibbe Flickingers? I thought you panned them on the purple site. If so, what changed your opinion of them? Stu A Proud Member of the Flickinger Clan yeah I had borrowed a pair a few years ago. Recorded a bunch of stuff and at the end thought "eh whatever".. moved on. Heard those tracks recently and thought "what the hell,that sounds good" Got another pair in here. Great to hear! Are they similar to anything else out there, or pretty unique sounding?
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Feb 18, 2017 10:38:23 GMT -6
Interestingly the same kind of delay happened with Bradley's 3 track console so they drove to the East Coast, picked up the parts and put it together themselves. The problem was that Langevin was in the process of moving to the West Coast so there weren't enough amplifier modules available. They ended up substituting some Lang knockoffs that had reliability problems.
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Post by EmRR on Feb 18, 2017 11:31:12 GMT -6
Bob, sounds like you've learned some more details recently about Bradley's console, is that detailed anywhere?
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Feb 18, 2017 17:50:35 GMT -6
Not in print. The AES Nashville section does what we call "Legends in the Round" where we tell the story of local studios with panels of the people who worked in them. There are some videos on YouTube.
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Post by roundbadge on Feb 18, 2017 22:57:47 GMT -6
yeah I had borrowed a pair a few years ago. Recorded a bunch of stuff and at the end thought "eh whatever".. moved on. Heard those tracks recently and thought "what the hell,that sounds good" Got another pair in here. Great to hear! Are they similar to anything else out there, or pretty unique sounding? yeah unique,hard to explain.kinda sorta API ,real even spectrum wise.detailed but warm..I really like the mid range representation.the transfomers are direct clones of the original Flickinger Triads made by guess who:Triad![yes they still have the exact original winding schematics]so in reality they are original Triad Flickinger Transfomers,made today. had a nice convo w/ Bill Skibbe about this yesterday
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Post by ericn on Feb 18, 2017 23:15:58 GMT -6
Great to hear! Are they similar to anything else out there, or pretty unique sounding? yeah unique,hard to explain.kinda sorta API ,real even spectrum wise.detailed but warm..I really like the mid range representation.the transfomers are direct clones of the original Flickinger Triads made by guess who:Triad![yes they still have the exact original winding schematics]so in reality they are original Triad Flickinger Transfomers,made today. had a nice convo w/ Bill Skibbe about this yesterday Imagine that a company with an honest to God archive!
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Post by nobtwiddler on Feb 19, 2017 19:47:43 GMT -6
Mulmany... About 8 years ago it was obvious that I had to move out of my 3 room studio location that I had held for 27 years here in Millbrook. There just wasn't enough business anymore to justify staying there. The overhead was killing me! Besides the 2 recording studios, there was a mastering suite, and, a house for 8 people, a pub, plus storage rooms, and a office. It was a big facility, and it worked for all that time. But things changed (as we all know)
Trust me this was a hard decision to move out of that location (but one I should have actually made 10 years before)
But that being said The new place I was moving into at the time, (which is where I am now) is only 600 SQ feet. So I only had room for 1 console, and my Daking was toooo damn big to fit in the new room. Sadly it had to go... I must say, it was one of the best consoles (sonically) I have ever worked on! A true joy.
(And I am considering Geoff new offering, as I'm looking for something with a smaller footprint then the VTC I still own!)
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Hunter, Yes still use the VTC every damn day....people give it a bad rep, but if ya look at my discography a lot of great records have been made on my console, in every genre of music. From Heavy Metal, Hard Core, Death Metal, Blues, Jazz, Rock, etc, etc,.. With some very heavy artists! (Hey the last 2 Blue Oyster Cult records (with our own DonR) were cut on that console! (need I say more) Haha
By the way, I still own 16 vertical Daking 52270 Mic pre's & 8 x 91579 comps...!
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Post by donr on Feb 19, 2017 20:51:50 GMT -6
Paul, I remember working on the Neotek for "Heaven Forbid," (the first of two records we did at Paul's Millbrook Sound,) although we used your Daking and Neve pre's mostly for recording to the RADAR. "Who's this Daking guy?" I asked. I was impressed by the Crane Song stuff, and Paul's awesome amp collection. Alas, I never got to see the Daking console arrive and depart.
It was a great studio and a great facility. Paul couldn't have been more hospitable and he worked harder than any of us. He had the best gear and the best beer.
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Post by matt on Feb 19, 2017 21:25:41 GMT -6
Life is way too short. I'm a lot happier... But if I only had a........ Helios. And an RS124. And a Ferrari GTO. And a hit record. And a prost...
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Post by nobtwiddler on Feb 20, 2017 17:12:03 GMT -6
Don baby when are you guys headed to NY, We gotta hang again. Been waaaaayyyyy tooooo long!
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Post by roundbadge on Feb 24, 2017 0:38:57 GMT -6
Mulmany... About 8 years ago it was obvious that I had to move out of my 3 room studio location that I had held for 27 years here in Millbrook. There just wasn't enough business anymore to justify staying there. The overhead was killing me! Besides the 2 recording studios, there was a mastering suite, and, a house for 8 people, a pub, plus storage rooms, and a office. It was a big facility, and it worked for all that time. But things changed (as we all know) Trust me this was a hard decision to move out of that location (but one I should have actually made 10 years before) But that being said The new place I was moving into at the time, (which is where I am now) is only 600 SQ feet. So I only had room for 1 console, and my Daking was toooo damn big to fit in the new room. Sadly it had to go... I must say, it was one of the best consoles (sonically) I have ever worked on! A true joy. (And I am considering Geoff new offering, as I'm looking for something with a smaller footprint then the VTC I still own!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hunter, Yes still use the VTC every damn day....people give it a bad rep, but if ya look at my discography a lot of great records have been made on my console, in every genre of music. From Heavy Metal, Hard Core, Death Metal, Blues, Jazz, Rock, etc, etc,.. With some very heavy artists! (Hey the last 2 Blue Oyster Cult records (with our own DonR) were cut on that console! (need I say more) Haha By the way, I still own 16 vertical Daking 52270 Mic pre's & 8 x 91579 comps...! Paul your new room looks really nice! Save
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Post by nobtwiddler on Feb 24, 2017 8:49:43 GMT -6
It is what it is...
Thanks bud!
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Post by donr on Feb 24, 2017 9:10:46 GMT -6
Don baby when are you guys headed to NY, We gotta hang again. Been waaaaayyyyy tooooo long! Hey, I'll be in Peekskill NY on Saturday night. Ring me if you can make it.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Feb 26, 2017 15:46:28 GMT -6
Sorry I missed ya Don, didn't read this till it was too late. We'll catch up soon enough!
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 26, 2017 16:35:05 GMT -6
JK, did you ever get your white whale back?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 26, 2017 16:41:37 GMT -6
RB - Did you have a change of heart on the Skibbe Flickingers? I thought you panned them on the purple site. If so, what changed your opinion of them? Stu A Proud Member of the Flickinger Clan yeah I had borrowed a pair a few years ago. Recorded a bunch of stuff and at the end thought "eh whatever".. moved on. Heard those tracks recently and thought "what the hell,that sounds good" Got another pair in here. I've done this several times myself, Roundbadge. Pre concheved notions of what we've grown accustom to I think. I always go back to wanting certain things, like John and these Helios.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 26, 2017 22:15:19 GMT -6
Ya what's the update? I know Mr. Johnkenn is busy making Comparison Mixes with his new ATC vs Amphion! I wonder which pair will earn the right to stay and take the throne ... Either way they are grade A monitors 😂 Hope Mr. Kenn is sending sweet passionate vocal vibrations thru the helluva hard to find heavenly Helios while passively monitoring the awesome analog ATC vs Amphion death match
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