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Post by jsteiger on Feb 22, 2018 10:44:28 GMT -6
The opamps? Those are Platinum Super Dots. Actually completely unrelated to the SumBus. That's another story that will be revealed soon.
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Post by ericn on Feb 22, 2018 10:50:54 GMT -6
The opamps? Those are Platinum Super Dots. Actually completely unrelated to the SumBus. That's another story that will be revealed soon. In best Homer Simpson voice Ummmm Platinum Ummmm Suuuper dots?
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Post by ericn on Feb 22, 2018 10:51:08 GMT -6
The opamps? Those are Platinum Super Dots. Actually completely unrelated to the SumBus. That's another story that will be revealed soon. In best Homer Simpson voice Ummmm Platinum Ummmm Suuuper dots?
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 22, 2018 11:37:05 GMT -6
That's not too bad. Can you mix and match the channels? Like the single stereo channels you have with pan control with the dual stereo channels? As of now...no. It would require additional faceplate skins and a new rear input panel. Everything else would work fine internally. If there is enough demand I will but believe me, this has already been an undertaking of massive proportions as it is. No doubt it has been a huge undertaking! Between this a Dawtomation, you're on your way to just having a full CAPI Console Thanks for the insight. I was envisioning 8 channels of the SBT1s and 16 channels of the SBT2s that way you could have "mono" channels to add to the summing like the lead vocal or snare and kick for instance. I only know of the Burl Vancouver summing mixer that does this on the first 8 channels while the remaining 24 are stereo inputs. But now that you mention it, that back plane and routing would be a PITA to make that work well. So now the difficult decision of a 16x4 or a 24x4 summing mixer begins...hmmmm...
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 22, 2018 11:53:24 GMT -6
As of now...no. It would require additional faceplate skins and a new rear input panel. Everything else would work fine internally. If there is enough demand I will but believe me, this has already been an undertaking of massive proportions as it is. No doubt it has been a huge undertaking! Between this a Dawtomation, you're on your way to just having a full CAPI Console Thanks for the insight. I was envisioning 8 channels of the SBT1s and 16 channels of the SBT2s that way you could have "mono" channels to add to the summing like the lead vocal or snare and kick for instance. I only know of the Burl Vancouver summing mixer that does this on the first 8 channels while the remaining 24 are stereo inputs. But now that you mention it, that back plane and routing would be a PITA to make that work well. So now the difficult decision of a 16x4 or a 24x4 summing mixer begins...hmmmm... This can easily be done with the SBT2 channels. Both L/R pushbuttons engaged is up the middle center.
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 22, 2018 12:06:16 GMT -6
No doubt it has been a huge undertaking! Between this a Dawtomation, you're on your way to just having a full CAPI Console Thanks for the insight. I was envisioning 8 channels of the SBT1s and 16 channels of the SBT2s that way you could have "mono" channels to add to the summing like the lead vocal or snare and kick for instance. I only know of the Burl Vancouver summing mixer that does this on the first 8 channels while the remaining 24 are stereo inputs. But now that you mention it, that back plane and routing would be a PITA to make that work well. So now the difficult decision of a 16x4 or a 24x4 summing mixer begins...hmmmm... This can easily be done with the SBT2 channels. Both L/R pushbuttons engaged is up the middle center. Well then. Decision made! SBT2 it is. Plus can end up with 32 channels
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Post by nomatic on Feb 22, 2018 14:40:22 GMT -6
So with the SBT2 you are gonna need 8 D to A channels for 4 mono center elements? If one where to get a SBT1 it would 1 D to A channel per mono input right? I had envisioned starting with 8 channels of D to A (spendy JCF stuff) so I am looking for the most bang for the buck to start...(I.E. VX, Bass, Kick , Snare center. hard panned elements on channels 5/6 7/8 etc... Is my logic correct?
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 22, 2018 15:20:30 GMT -6
So with the SBT2 you are gonna need 8 D to A channels for 4 mono center elements? If one where to get a SBT1 it would 1 D to A channel per mono input right? I had envisioned starting with 8 channels of D to A (spendy JCF stuff) so I am looking for the most bang for the buck to start...(I.E. VX, Bass, Kick , Snare center. hard panned elements on channels 5/6 7/8 etc... Is my logic correct? hmm good point. Not very effect when you thin of it like that
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 22, 2018 16:29:21 GMT -6
I am not super familiar with the Sigma but I think that requires 2 channels on the mixer for every mono track IE kick, bass gtr etc. The SumBus is not like that. Here's a quick example that may shed some light. All considering the SBT2 dual input channel cards.
Kick: route to SumBus channel #1, both L/R pushbuttons in for mono center routing.
Snare: route to SumBus channel #2, both L/R pushbuttons in for mono center routing.
Toms Left: route to SumBus channel #3, Left pushbutton in for left only routing.
Toms Right: route to SumBus channel #4, Right pushbutton in for right only routing.
OH Left: route to SumBus channel #5, Left pushbutton in for left only routing.
OH Right: route to SumBus channel #6, Right pushbutton in for right only routing.
Bass gtr: route to SumBus channel #7, both L/R pushbuttons in for mono center routing.
Etc, etc
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Post by adamjbrass on Feb 22, 2018 16:52:31 GMT -6
yea, thats what I surmised from your wording Jeff. One input channel can feed L/R Sumbus equally
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Post by nomatic on Feb 22, 2018 17:29:07 GMT -6
Oh Sweet!
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Post by ericn on Feb 22, 2018 18:05:20 GMT -6
We want a CAPI Console ! Modular CAPI Console ! Please Jeff ! PRETTY PLEASE!😁
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 22, 2018 19:07:57 GMT -6
I am not super familiar with the Sigma but I think that requires 2 channels on the mixer for every mono track IE kick, bass gtr etc. The SumBus is not like that. Here's a quick example that may shed some light. All considering the SBT2 dual input channel cards. Kick: route to SumBus channel #1, both L/R pushbuttons in for mono center routing. Snare: route to SumBus channel #2, both L/R pushbuttons in for mono center routing. Toms Left: route to SumBus channel #3, Left pushbutton in for left only routing. Toms Right: route to SumBus channel #4, Right pushbutton in for right only routing. OH Left: route to SumBus channel #5, Left pushbutton in for left only routing. OH Right: route to SumBus channel #6, Right pushbutton in for right only routing. Bass gtr: route to SumBus channel #7, both L/R pushbuttons in for mono center routing. Etc, etc Excellent! Thanks for clarifying.
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Post by Quint on Feb 22, 2018 19:27:05 GMT -6
How many rack units tall is one chassis? Four? From what I can sort of tell from the close up picture?
How many channels in one chassis? From what I'm reading it sounds like 16 stereo or 32 mono channels in one four (?) rack unit tall chassis?
Is there a non-close up pic of the entire chassis loaded with channels?
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 22, 2018 19:42:23 GMT -6
How many rack units tall is one chassis? Four? From what I can sort of tell from the close up picture? How many channels in one chassis? From what I'm reading it sounds like 16 stereo or 32 mono channels in one four (?) rack unit tall chassis? Is there a non-close up pic of the entire chassis loaded with channels? The carcass is 2U. With the exception of the rear input panel and DB25 input PCB's the carcass is identical for both single and dual input channel cards. I replied to Noah with the smallest to biggest systems for each style input card. Back one page I believe.
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Post by Quint on Feb 22, 2018 20:08:11 GMT -6
How many rack units tall is one chassis? Four? From what I can sort of tell from the close up picture? How many channels in one chassis? From what I'm reading it sounds like 16 stereo or 32 mono channels in one four (?) rack unit tall chassis? Is there a non-close up pic of the entire chassis loaded with channels? The carcass is 2U. With the exception of the rear input panel and DB25 input PCB's the carcass is identical for both single and dual input channel cards. I replied to Noah with the smallest to biggest systems for each style input card. Back one page I believe. Can we see a pic of the complete carcass? From looking at the close up shots, I never would have guessed this was only 2u. I'm also enjoying that it's being called the carcass. Different than the typical "chassis" terminology, but I like it. Very "whale" like. And I mean that in the most positive way possible. Kind of like the "white whale" that nobody has landed, that is until now. I'm very much looking forward to learning more. And you did say that you previously replied to Noah...
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 22, 2018 20:21:40 GMT -6
There are some pics of the prototype carcass at the very beginning of this thread. Some inner details have changed but conceptually overall the same.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 22, 2018 20:28:51 GMT -6
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Post by Quint on Feb 22, 2018 20:50:22 GMT -6
That pic helps a lot. I'm impressed. I want one.
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Post by matt@IAA on Feb 23, 2018 13:34:50 GMT -6
The carcass is 2U. With the exception of the rear input panel and DB25 input PCB's the carcass is identical for both single and dual input channel cards. I replied to Noah with the smallest to biggest systems for each style input card. Back one page I believe. Can we see a pic of the complete carcass? From looking at the close up shots, I never would have guessed this was only 2u. I'm also enjoying that it's being called the carcass. Different than the typical "chassis" terminology, but I like it. Very "whale" like. And I mean that in the most positive way possible. Kind of like the "white whale" that nobody has landed, that is until now. I'm very much looking forward to learning more. And you did say that you previously replied to Noah... I suspect carcass is a slip of the ol’ woodworker’s lingo. It’s what you call a cabinet frame.
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 23, 2018 19:01:16 GMT -6
Can we see a pic of the complete carcass? From looking at the close up shots, I never would have guessed this was only 2u. I'm also enjoying that it's being called the carcass. Different than the typical "chassis" terminology, but I like it. Very "whale" like. And I mean that in the most positive way possible. Kind of like the "white whale" that nobody has landed, that is until now. I'm very much looking forward to learning more. And you did say that you previously replied to Noah... I suspect carcass is a slip of the ol’ woodworker’s lingo. It’s what you call a cabinet frame. Could be although I was never a cabinetmaker. I just think it has a nice ring to it. Anybody can call it a chassis
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 23, 2018 19:33:26 GMT -6
ah, but a carcass is the bodily remains of a dead animal ?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 23, 2018 19:38:33 GMT -6
Yes, but very descriptive ;-)
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 23, 2018 20:48:54 GMT -6
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Post by keymod on Feb 24, 2018 5:53:50 GMT -6
I'd be all over this Summing box if I didn't already have my API 8200,8200A setup. Hmmm, maybe to expand them?? However, that DAWtomation box has me drooling........
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