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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 10, 2016 21:31:01 GMT -6
to use a seriously over used saying... this is an actual "game changer" for console guys.
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Post by ericn on Feb 10, 2016 22:25:39 GMT -6
Wow. CAPI already eats up enough of my yearly income as is. You're a damn crack dealer. Yeah Jeff needs to trade mark " Audio Crack"
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Post by ericn on Feb 10, 2016 22:28:02 GMT -6
to use a seriously over used saying... this is an actual "game changer" for console guys. Next NAMM Lets play " Game Changer Bingo" Who gets the manufacturers on there card filled with clips of its a game changer!
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Post by Quint on Feb 10, 2016 23:38:49 GMT -6
Since the levels are set via VCA, would it be possible to use your software and VCA board with an existing motorized Controller such as a Mackie, etc? That might make it a CAPI version of a Summation. This is exactly where my mind went too and I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Post by koerschgen on Feb 11, 2016 3:27:39 GMT -6
Hi Jeff, thats great news! I hope the second Product uses DC voltage to control the Faders instead of PWM! Already did some testing with a PWM Setup, the Fader movement is way to loud! As far as I recall it right, SSL did it with DC Voltage, thats very quiet… The Guys at midibox-dot-org have a similar system, but it is not usable with Faders who contain an Audio Taper (crosstalk from the PWM into the Audio signal). I am looking for a moving Fader Automation for years buts I own a Neumann Console, and the have special Fader Sizes (130mm). So I am very interested in the Control-Board, count me in for a few…! Thanks, as always great stuff!. Best, koerschgen
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Post by keymod on Feb 11, 2016 9:25:05 GMT -6
So I checked the Greiner Engineering website this morning. Seems they've stopped manufacturing the Summation. Must have been a casualty of the war with Sigma. Now I definitely want to use Jeff's software and VCA Board with my controller. I was going to buy a Summation when funds allowed.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 9:52:32 GMT -6
Quite a few of these on it already! Including the LC53 build I botched...just a nice warm buzzzzzzzxzz. It's good to know I'm not the only "botcher" on the site...
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 9:53:15 GMT -6
Hi Jeff, thats great news! I hope the second Product uses DC voltage to control the Faders instead of PWM! Already did some testing with a PWM Setup, the Fader movement is way to loud! As far as I recall it right, SSL did it with DC Voltage, thats very quiet… The Guys at midibox-dot-org have a similar system, but it is not usable with Faders who contain an Audio Taper (crosstalk from the PWM into the Audio signal). I am looking for a moving Fader Automation for years buts I own a Neumann Console, and the have special Fader Sizes (130mm). So I am very interested in the Control-Board, count me in for a few…! Thanks, as always great stuff!. Best, koerschgen Welcome, koerschgen!
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Post by noah shain on Feb 11, 2016 10:10:18 GMT -6
Quite a few of these on it already! Including the LC53 build I botched...just a nice warm buzzzzzzzxzz. It's good to know I'm not the only "botcher" on the site... I don't know who I think I am trying to build these things but I'm sure I'm not a tech. I need one but I'm not one.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 11, 2016 11:09:07 GMT -6
At least you didn't take Tony's advice of "find an old toothbrush" and clean the back of the board with alcohol...now my board is minty fresh and sticky.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 11, 2016 12:29:38 GMT -6
At least you didn't take Tony's advice of "find an old toothbrush" and clean the back of the board with alcohol...now my board is minty fresh and sticky. haha, well, did you floss as well? You were also not supposed to put toothpaste on the brush! haha seriously though, it takes 3 solid cleanings and a slight pressured jiggle against a cotton towel to spic n span a pcb.
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Post by noah shain on Feb 11, 2016 12:29:56 GMT -6
At least you didn't take Tony's advice of "find an old toothbrush" and clean the back of the board with alcohol...now my board is minty fresh and sticky. Hahahahahaha
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Post by rocinante on Feb 11, 2016 12:51:30 GMT -6
At least you didn't take Tony's advice of "find an old toothbrush" and clean the back of the board with alcohol...now my board is minty fresh and sticky. Don't feel to bad John i average one dead gar 2520 for every 6 i build. Thats equivalent to throwing $30-$60 down the drain.
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 11, 2016 16:35:38 GMT -6
Since the levels are set via VCA, would it be possible to use your software and VCA board with an existing motorized Controller such as a Mackie, etc? Yes. Our plugin can be controlled with a FaderPort or the like. That will just be a vehicle to make the level control moves within the PT software instead of dragging a mouse. Our plugin will still control our hardware box in the analog domain. We will not have our own controller like this since there are many out there and man are they cheap.
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Post by keymod on Feb 11, 2016 17:20:03 GMT -6
Nice. Will motorized faders follow the written automation? I'd be interested in at least 32 channels of VCA control.
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Post by Quint on Feb 11, 2016 18:05:08 GMT -6
Since the levels are set via VCA, would it be possible to use your software and VCA board with an existing motorized Controller such as a Mackie, etc? Yes. Our plugin can be controlled with a FaderPort or the like. That will just be a vehicle to make the level control moves within the PT software instead of dragging a mouse. Our plugin will still control our hardware box in the analog domain. We will not have our own controller like this since there are many out there and man are they cheap. So the DAW will act as the "go between" for a control surface and the VCAs in a box. Just like a Sigma or Summation but with the big difference apparently being the price. This sounds super cool and might be a perfect add on for a diy project I already had planned.
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 11, 2016 23:49:52 GMT -6
Nice. Will motorized faders follow the written automation? Yes indeed they will.
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 11, 2016 23:51:24 GMT -6
So the DAW will act as the "go between" for a control surface and the VCAs in a box. Yes exactly.
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Post by Quint on Feb 14, 2016 8:48:56 GMT -6
So the DAW will act as the "go between" for a control surface and the VCAs in a box. Yes exactly. So is there any chance of other DAWs besides PT, Logic and Nuendo being supported in the future?
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Post by keymod on Feb 14, 2016 11:02:50 GMT -6
I would imagine that Cubase will work since Nuendo and Cubase are virtually identical with regards 2 Automation parameters
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Post by Quint on Feb 14, 2016 12:30:39 GMT -6
It would be cool if the code was open source so that, if your daw wasn't supported, you could potentially get in there and tweak it to work for your particular daw.
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Post by ericn on Feb 14, 2016 14:49:11 GMT -6
It would be cool if the code was open source so that, if your daw wasn't supported, you could potentially get in there and tweak it to work for your particular daw. Let's wait till we see what they have got first !
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Post by rowmat on Mar 19, 2016 23:14:15 GMT -6
We have a Neotek Elite with VCA faders currently fitted with DBX 2150 VCA's which I was planning on upgrading to THAT 2181's. I still have to decipher the entire VCA system as it came without an interface or any info. Jeff is it likely your system could be used with a console's existing VCA's faders? Obviously until I figure out what VCA system I have the question is rather mute! ... pun intended!
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Post by jsteiger on Mar 20, 2016 8:37:29 GMT -6
We have a Neotek Elite with VCA faders currently fitted with DBX 2150 VCA's which I was planning on upgrading to THAT 2181's. I still have to decipher the entire VCA system as it came without an interface or any info. Jeff is it likely your system could be used with a console's existing VCA's faders? Obviously until I figure out what VCA system I have the question is rather mute! ... pun intended! Its possible but I am not sure if that is one we will be supporting. There are so many systems out there once you get past the big dogs.
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Post by winetree on Mar 20, 2016 15:13:58 GMT -6
We have a Neotek Elite with VCA faders currently fitted with DBX 2150 VCA's which I was planning on upgrading to THAT 2181's. I still have to decipher the entire VCA system as it came without an interface or any info. Jeff is it likely your system could be used with a console's existing VCA's faders? Obviously until I figure out what VCA system I have the question is rather mute! ... pun intended! Its possible but I am not sure if that is one we will be supporting. There are so many systems out there once you get past the big dogs. Will it support a Harrison Console with ARMs automation?
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