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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 6, 2016 12:26:45 GMT -6
Well, i've heard from 3 different pals that they are going to submit mixes for the contest, anyone else here gonna do it? Haven't heard the tracks yet, are they any good?
link through the ad here on the site, that will help JK out a bit i think.
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Post by schmalzy on Jan 6, 2016 13:13:24 GMT -6
I'm considering it.
I'm not in the same ballpark as many of you cats are but it would be cool to hear my mix against others' when we have the same source tracks.
I've got a client coming in to record a few songs in the middle of the month. Depending on the turnaround time (I don't remember right off-hand) I might throw my worse-sounding-than-a-lot-of-yours hat in the ring.
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Post by svart on Jan 6, 2016 13:20:29 GMT -6
What contest is this?
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Post by warrenfirehouse on Jan 6, 2016 13:47:46 GMT -6
Saw this on facebook. Definitely going to give it a shot. Like NY lotto, hey, you never know! Winner gets a locomotive stereo tube pre!  Top five gets a tshirt!  |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 6, 2016 13:50:33 GMT -6
Locomotive Audio is having a mixoff to win a tube pre. There is a banner for the contest on RGO. |
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Post by svart on Jan 6, 2016 14:24:08 GMT -6
I see. Interesting. I might do a quickie mix and see what's up.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 6, 2016 14:59:20 GMT -6
Well, i've heard from 3 different pals that they are going to submit mixes for the contest, anyone else here gonna do it? Haven't heard the tracks yet, are they any good? link through the ad here on the site, that will help JK out a bit i think. I did a quickie on it yesterday becasue I had some payed free lessons. The timing is sometimes a bit sloppy but the lead vocals pay back. KIRA LEE she can sing - no doubt. With the OH is something crazy going on, I just had to pull it back a lot. I had to manipulate the kick very heavy with EQ and compression becasue I did not wanted to replace it. After all it was fun and it is a nice marketing idea. I hope I win becasue GF will kill me if I buy such a preamp.  |
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Post by svart on Jan 6, 2016 15:04:26 GMT -6
There is a ton of BOING from that kick drum.. It's in all the mics. Even the overheads have more boing than crash..
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 6, 2016 15:14:15 GMT -6
There is a ton of BOING from that kick drum.. It's in all the mics. Even the overheads have more boing than crash.. BOING BOING…OR SCHIIII - GING … wait till he hits the metal like in heavy metal -  - To my taste the trumept was not going together with the arrangement and I erased it. |
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Post by wiz on Jan 6, 2016 17:05:12 GMT -6
I did one and submitted yesterday...
cheers
Wiz
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Post by wiz on Jan 6, 2016 17:21:49 GMT -6
I downloaded the tracks for the Locomotive Mix Contest... I pulled a mix I was happy with, and to me it sounds like a "Wiz Mix"? for want of a better term... but geeze I had to work on it (at the mix stage, compared to what I have to do when I track myself) ... I also used quite a few plug ins(compared to what I would normally use), ITB EQs to access their MS capabilities for instance,
In a mix I track here, there might be, in say a 20 track song, 2 or 3 Linear Phase EQs that I use to "notch" something here or there to fit something in sonically.
I used quite a few plugs to mould the sounds into something I liked... (Nothing esoteric, just EQs and Image changers)
As I was doing it, it dawned on me about ITB vs OTB this comp vs that comp... etc Its so dependant on the tracking....
I am not saying in anyway shape or form, that the locomotive mix tracks were sub par, they are good.. really good.... just not how I would do it.
Also there are some aspects in the tracking, I would have taken care of in the tracking stage, and not have to deal with at mix time, now they may have done this as part of the competition, nothing underhanded, just somethings that I thought you know, I would have done that differently....
(I copied this from the thread about show me the trick, which is a discussion on ITB vs console(ish) )
cheers
Wiz
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Post by ericn on Jan 6, 2016 18:17:06 GMT -6
I downloaded the tracks for the Locomotive Mix Contest... I pulled a mix I was happy with, and to me it sounds like a "Wiz Mix"? for want of a better term... but geeze I had to work on it (at the mix stage, compared to what I have to do when I track myself) ... I also used quite a few plug ins(compared to what I would normally use), ITB EQs to access their MS capabilities for instance, In a mix I track here, there might be, in say a 20 track song, 2 or 3 Linear Phase EQs that I use to "notch" something here or there to fit something in sonically. I used quite a few plugs to mould the sounds into something I liked... (Nothing esoteric, just EQs and Image changers) As I was doing it, it dawned on me about ITB vs OTB this comp vs that comp... etc Its so dependant on the tracking.... I am not saying in anyway shape or form, that the locomotive mix tracks were sub par, they are good.. really good.... just not how I would do it. Also there are some aspects in the tracking, I would have taken care of in the tracking stage, and not have to deal with at mix time, now they may have done this as part of the competition, nothing underhanded, just somethings that I thought you know, I would have done that differently.... (I copied this from the thread about show me the trick, which is a discussion on ITB vs console(ish) ) cheers Wiz Having mixed a fair amount of stuff where I had no input on tracking I agree! I have always been amazed at The mixes I like where a mixer was hired! It's much quicker and easier to mix something where you know why something sounds the way it sounds and the use of EQ and dynamics on printed tracks often leaves the mixer scratching his or her head. I know in private many highly rated mixers who have said how often they were fighting the sound somebody had worked really hard to get! If somebody asks me to mix something they are going to track I Beg and Plead that that if they are going to use dynamics and EQ during tracking to mult the output of the pre so I can have raw tracks as well and if they can keep as many takes as possible ! It just makes it easier to get a final product that gels and it's not like the days of tape! I remember a conversation with a guy when Tchad Blake was talking about the 100s to 1000s of Tracks Peter Gabriel hand him and I commented that it didn't mean used all of them ! |
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Post by drbill on Jan 6, 2016 20:21:52 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool....
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 6, 2016 20:41:17 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool.... Sounds crazy because mixing is your job but to me its more a hobby. I did it because I can learn with every new mix. Most often I use magic ab and compare my mix to one of my favourit mixes. I try to come as close as I can... I am getting better. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 6, 2016 20:45:00 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool.... Well if they give up their internet time! |
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Post by wiz on Jan 6, 2016 20:48:54 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool.... Yes , yes I do... 8) cheers Wiz |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 6, 2016 20:56:35 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool.... well, since you write, record and mix over 300 songs a year, it should be a piece of cake for you to knock this out of the park, and take home the prize, it'll equate to about $2,500 for a couple hours of work!!  |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 6, 2016 21:03:05 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool.... well, since you write, record and mix over 300 songs a year, it should be a piece of cake for you to knock this out of the park, and take home the prize, it'll equate to about $2,500 for a couple hours of work!! Winning would give him some additional free advertising for Silver Bullets too. |
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Post by Ward on Jan 6, 2016 21:06:56 GMT -6
A good mix takes more than 2 hours. This song would take 8 hours or more of editing alone, before you get to mixing... i'm not saying the recording is atrocious... or oops, did I just say that?
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 6, 2016 21:39:44 GMT -6
A good mix takes more than 2 hours. This song would take 8 hours or more of editing alone, before you get to mixing... i'm not saying the recording is atrocious... or oops, did I just say that? What happend between Rock and Roll and Lactose intollerance? Editing and optimizing of everything? Some of my favourite CDs contain massive mistakes. If the rest is great the mistake fades away.... The only thing I edited was the breath noise of the LV. |
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Post by drbill on Jan 6, 2016 22:27:21 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool.... well, since you write, record and mix over 300 songs a year, it should be a piece of cake for you to knock this out of the park, and take home the prize, it'll equate to about $2,500 for a couple hours of work!! What are you trying to say tony. Out with it or stay quiet. I'm slacking this year. I'll be lucky to hit 100, but I am rebuilding the CRM from the ground up.... And I did crash the mc hard enough to take me out for a month. I'm glad folks have enough time to take this on, but I can't personally imagine that much free time. Takes all the time I have just to keep things going, and even at that, I always seem to leave stuff on the table. |
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Post by drbill on Jan 6, 2016 22:27:53 GMT -6
well, since you write, record and mix over 300 songs a year, it should be a piece of cake for you to knock this out of the park, and take home the prize, it'll equate to about $2,500 for a couple hours of work!! Winning would give him some additional free advertising for Silver Bullets too. That's Brad's domain. Maybe he will do a remix. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 6, 2016 23:01:38 GMT -6
People have enough time in the day to do free mixes for a contest? Wow. Cool.... [Humble brag]  |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 7, 2016 11:40:26 GMT -6
just listened, interesting tracks with some significant issues that need attention, it looks like they may have done some level sabotage just to quickly weed out mixes? It's so short everyone should submit! Including "A listers" 8) Thats a heckuva prize they're offering by any standard!
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Post by Ward on Jan 8, 2016 6:27:18 GMT -6
A good mix takes more than 2 hours. This song would take 8 hours or more of editing alone, before you get to mixing... i'm not saying the recording is atrocious... or oops, did I just say that? just listened, interesting tracks with some significant issues that need attention, it looks like they may have done some level sabotage just to quickly weed out mixes? It's so short everyone should submit! Including "A listers" 8) Thats a heckuva prize they're offering by any standard! Rather than post another reply, I'll just delete my last one and post a new one instead... I spent some time working on the trainwreck, er, locomotive. I have some questions... Was the band drunk?? Were the bass and drums in separate studios and relying on a live video feed to get their groove on together? Was the drummer fallin asleep during the performance, explaining the 12db diference from softest to hardest kick drum hits, usually in the same measures? What click? Why bother? No one was following it anyhow. It's normal to be almost a full 1/4 note ahead of the beat, right? I suppose the guitar player COULD have gotten a deader tone... how do you bring this back to life? Can I just replace ALL the music? The singer's doing a fine job. (Yes, I can be an arsehole...) |
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