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Post by winetree on Jan 8, 2016 12:49:05 GMT -6
They're pretty smart. A stereo tube pre is probably the cheaper way to go than paying cash for all the time to make those tracks sound like a finished product.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 23, 2016 23:07:55 GMT -6
Just submitted my mix. Preamp would look nice in my rack next to the locomotive compressor!
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Post by porkyman on Feb 1, 2016 19:39:56 GMT -6
entered last night.
listened this morning.
can not believe how bad it is. im so embarrassed someones gonna actually listen to it. the guitars cause me physical pain.
this was the 1st time ive worked on something i didnt track myself. im really curious to hear what others did with these tracks. nothing was working for me except the vocal which was absolutely amazing.
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Post by svart on Feb 1, 2016 20:09:55 GMT -6
Damn. Totally forgot about this. I did download the tracks so maybe i'll get around to doing a mix.
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Post by Ward on Feb 1, 2016 22:40:32 GMT -6
Haven't the winners already been chosen? That's what their Facebook thingy said.
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Post by donr on Feb 1, 2016 23:02:29 GMT -6
Haven't the winners already been chosen? That's what their Facebook thingy said. Ward, you're bringing us down..
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Feb 2, 2016 0:38:49 GMT -6
anyone got the files? the link to DL is dead on their site. meh, i'm sure there are better sessions to practice mixing with, actually. Who knows a site where you can download multi tracks of sessions?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 2, 2016 5:36:06 GMT -6
Haven't the winners already been chosen? That's what their Facebook thingy said. Submission deadline was Feb 1, winners will be announced on Feb 16. Since the deadline has passed, I'll post my mix here for you guys to tear apart today.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 2, 2016 9:22:01 GMT -6
Haven't the winners already been chosen? That's what their Facebook thingy said. Submission deadline was Feb 1, winners will be announced on Feb 16. Since the deadline has passed, I'll post my mix here for you guys to tear apart today. where is it? sadly i never submitted, i've been too busy not having any fun, but at least i'm not making enough $ 8)
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Post by Ward on Feb 2, 2016 11:15:22 GMT -6
tonycamphd, donr jcoutu1 @nofilterchuck don't even worry about it!! It was an absolute mess and a complete waste of time!! This will be won by some bedroom studio warrior with way too much time on his 18 year old hands and the desire to micro-move everything in an OCD way and make a suitable mix... and he probably needs the gear more than we do,. BTW, I was once that 18 year old OCD bedroom studio warrior with way too much time on his hands.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 2, 2016 11:47:56 GMT -6
Submission deadline was Feb 1, winners will be announced on Feb 16. Since the deadline has passed, I'll post my mix here for you guys to tear apart today. where is it? sadly i never submitted, i've been too busy not having any fun, but at least i'm not making enough $ 8) Sorry, by today, I actually meant tomorrow (being now). Here's my mix, tear it apart! https%3A//soundcloud.com/jessecoutu/locomotive-audio-mini-song
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Feb 2, 2016 12:19:41 GMT -6
Musically speaking, this sounds like every song put out by mediocre studios here in brooklyn with presonus firepods, Samson Drum Mic kits, and moving blankets hung from the walls of their square bedrooms that they tracked in #nofilter
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 2, 2016 12:28:47 GMT -6
Musically speaking, this sounds like every song put out by mediocre studios here in brooklyn with presonus firepods, Samson Drum Mic kits, and moving blankets hung from the walls of their square bedrooms that they tracked in #nofilter Why are we talking about the quality of the recording though? I'm sure that Locomotive didn't pony up big bucks to have this track recorded. They probably talked to a studio owner that they know, he got a few cats together, and they laid the tracks in a few hours for the contest. For a contest like this, I'd rather get some tracks that need some work rather than something that's perfect coming out of the gate. I expect that the majority of the work that most of us get, are tracks that are going to be recorded in mediocre conditions at best and probably sound similar to this. #realworldtracks
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 2, 2016 12:54:54 GMT -6
Fo real...chill boys.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 2, 2016 13:25:15 GMT -6
where is it? sadly i never submitted, i've been too busy not having any fun, but at least i'm not making enough $ 8) Sorry, by today, I actually meant tomorrow (being now). Here's my mix, tear it apart! https%3A//soundcloud.com/jessecoutu/locomotive-audio-mini-songthis sounds cool, and I should be disqualified to comment due to the fact that i didn't participate, but haha, I think you may have missed what they were going for with the song by making it wetter? if it was me i'd have gone the opposite route of tightening things up and making this groove harder, as that's what they were attempting to achieve, and quite frankly came up short, ex. drier, gating, time based pump and breathe compression, tight delays and throws, even gated mono verbs? etc. Maybe in the next few weeks i'll do a quick ITB and post it anyway...
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 2, 2016 13:30:23 GMT -6
Sorry, by today, I actually meant tomorrow (being now). Here's my mix, tear it apart! https%3A//soundcloud.com/jessecoutu/locomotive-audio-mini-songthis sounds cool, and I should be disqualified to comment due to the fact that i didn't participate, but haha, I think you may have missed what they were going for with the song by making it wetter? if it was me i'd have gone the opposite route of tightening things up and making this groove harder, as that's what they were attempting to achieve, and quite frankly came up short, ex. drier, gating, time based pump and breathe compression, tight delays and throws, even gated mono verbs? etc. Maybe in the next few weeks i'll do a quick ITB and post it anyway... I thought that because it was sort of loose, I would try to push it towards more of a live vibe rather than a super tight "studio" sound.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 2, 2016 13:50:21 GMT -6
this sounds cool, and I should be disqualified to comment due to the fact that i didn't participate, but haha, I think you may have missed what they were going for with the song by making it wetter? if it was me i'd have gone the opposite route of tightening things up and making this groove harder, as that's what they were attempting to achieve, and quite frankly came up short, ex. drier, gating, time based pump and breathe compression, tight delays and throws, even gated mono verbs? etc. Maybe in the next few weeks i'll do a quick ITB and post it anyway... I thought that because it was sort of loose, I would try to push it towards more of a live vibe rather than a super tight "studio" sound. I hear ya mon, i would just say it IS a "live vibe" no matter what because it was recorded that way, pushing it more toward that could bring it to the garage i would think? No matter what you do to these tracks, their "liveness" should remain apparent, using techniques to make the band sound tighter doesn't have to come with an obvious, or over produced sound. But who knows, they left no production directions out for anyone right? So your guess is as good as mine, they may like a thinned out punk sound? we'll see i guess, I think generally people expect the studio to make them sound better than they actually are though....
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Post by popmann on Feb 2, 2016 15:59:00 GMT -6
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the recording. If you guys want to have an actual mature discussion about what it is you find lacking....I'm game. But, the major issues I heard were the two guitar tracks weren't well thought out.....and I'm ALWAYS offput by the lead singer singing "other overlapping lead lines" in her own normal voice. Either have someone else sing the line or modify the melody to work.
Anyway--I just pulled them up one evening after reading about how much "work" it would be....and gave it the solid "30min mix". I didn't enter, but....I curious what issues you (collectively) thought there were sonically. The only things I really heard were musical issues of a self produced/arranged young band.
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Post by wiz on Feb 2, 2016 16:02:13 GMT -6
OK I'll play, sounds like fun....
Here is what I submitted...
IIRC , I spent about 3 hours on it.
Now, its interesting the thoughts on the song people have had, and will be interesting to hear each persons mixes...
I am used to mixing sub par tracked stuff 8).. it was my bread and butter for a while... 8)
I did no timing repairs... or tuning etc.. I always approach a mix for someone else ( unless directed otherwise) that they have there , tracked, what they want, and they are coming to me, for me to put my stamp on it.
So I listen to the track... decide what would present the song the best, and mix it...
So, if they were my client this would be my first mix back to them... with MY vision of their tracking...
Then I would listen to their feedback, and touch up, complete remix etc...
Once I have mixed for them, usually the process is a bit more streamlined.
Enough excuses.. here it is
Cheers
Wiz
https%3A//soundcloud.com/user550433336/locomotive-mix-final-wiz
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 2, 2016 16:02:55 GMT -6
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the recording. If you guys want to have an actual mature discussion about what it is you find lacking....I'm game. But, the major issues I heard were the two guitar tracks weren't well thought out.....and I'm ALWAYS offput by the lead singer singing "other overlapping lead lines" in her own normal voice. Either have someone else sing the line or modify the melody to work. Anyway--I just pulled them up one evening after reading about how much "work" it would be....and gave it the solid "30min mix". I didn't enter, but....I curious what issues you (collectively) thought there were sonically. The only things I really heard were musical issues of a self produced/arranged young band. Let's hear it! Any thoughts on my mix?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 2, 2016 16:05:24 GMT -6
OK I'll play, sounds like fun.... Here is what I submitted... IIRC , I spent about 3 hours on it. Now, its interesting the thoughts on the song people have had, and will be interesting to hear each persons mixes... I am used to mixing sub par tracked stuff 8).. it was my bread and butter for a while... 8) I did no timing repairs... or tuning etc.. I always approach a mix for someone else ( unless directed otherwise) that they have there , tracked, what they want, and they are coming to me, for me to put my stamp on it. So I listen to the track... decide what would present the song the best, and mix it... So, if they were my client this would be my first mix back to them... with MY vision of their tracking... Then I would listen to their feedback, and touch up, complete remix etc... Once I have mixed for them, usually the process is a bit more streamlined. Enough excuses.. here it is Cheers Wiz https%3A//soundcloud.com/user550433336/locomotive-mix-final-wizDude, this really has a wiz stamp on it. Especially the way the bass punches and the way you chopped up the guitars with the hard panning. Cool stuff.
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Post by wiz on Feb 2, 2016 16:09:28 GMT -6
where is it? sadly i never submitted, i've been too busy not having any fun, but at least i'm not making enough $ 8) Sorry, by today, I actually meant tomorrow (being now). Here's my mix, tear it apart! https%3A//soundcloud.com/jessecoutu/locomotive-audio-mini-songCool, you and I had the same thought on the delay for the guitar in the intro 8) As always when I hear your mixes, I reckon its a great Live sounding mix... Come to Oz, mix a show for me...I will give you Candy.... cheers Wiz
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Post by popmann on Feb 2, 2016 16:34:20 GMT -6
I just looked at details--the bassplayer IS the guitarist! Ha. Makes me wonder if bass was his first instrument....the way most guitarist "can" play bass, but probably shouldn't. I'll run mine down for whatever value a quick mix brings o the discussion. J, your mix was really bright and thin and loud. While I get where you're coming from, part of the job I've always understood better than some other engineers I've worked with is to feel what the band's WANTING--and deliver that with fingers crossed. And while that snare treatment would make the Fall Out Boy guys happy, this sound more like hippie southern soul that requires a bit more beefy pocket. but, then--that's also more up my alley, so I might simply be doing the same thing--bringing my own interpretation to the table. The highs were really swishy, too--which may or may not be a side effect of Soundcloud's generally horrible transcoding...or might be something you did with the highs. Dunno--I didn't hear any of that in the tracks. If I can remember my Soundcloud password, I'll put mine up there so it's apples to potentially swishy apples.
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Post by popmann on Feb 2, 2016 16:53:48 GMT -6
here you go....I purposely bypassed the limiter so some, since I'm always saying you need to hear it at full scale before making that decision--it basically kind of tightened the bottom some and narrowed the image. You could argue for or against either....but, they both registered DR13 on the TT meter so I obviously wasn't clipping it much. soundcloud.com/langsongs/locomotivemix1644
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Post by saxmonster on Feb 2, 2016 20:09:08 GMT -6
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