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Post by tasteliketape on Oct 9, 2015 22:04:08 GMT -6
 www.fixaudiodesigns.com/ saw this on the well somewhere o b still my beating heart if it's priced right were all in trouble there are various configurations on the Web site |
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Post by jsteiger on Oct 9, 2015 22:40:14 GMT -6
Yes this will be good. I hate to be that guy but its Wolff with 2 F's  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 9, 2015 23:17:17 GMT -6
He beat you to it, Jeff...
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Post by EmRR on Oct 9, 2015 23:17:50 GMT -6
That will be expensive.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 9, 2015 23:19:45 GMT -6
And on the site, it has a bunch of different configurations...
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 4:30:32 GMT -6
A couple of us have been talking about something like this on the other site. It's about time someone brought this idea to fruition.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 10, 2015 6:29:46 GMT -6
No joke. I'm sure it'll be in a different league than most of us are playing in. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 10, 2015 6:34:34 GMT -6
He beat you to it, Jeff... The desire of people wanting this, to the cost reality of people actually buying this,... Is probably a vey wide chasm to cross? I did my own dumb math on the console jeff was working on, it felt like it was going to be in the $15k range as a DIY rig no matter what angle I turned the calculater, not positive on that though... the fact that Jeff supports this says a lot! It's a Paul Wolff design! He's from they golden age of API if I'm not mistaken? |
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Post by EmRR on Oct 10, 2015 6:41:46 GMT -6
Jeff already has most of the solutions, just not a complete Lego kit solution. He already has all you need given most people want to design the final ergonomic portions and frame themselves, and will do it on a fairly small channel count. I don't see what actually holds all that together, you probably still gotta build that.
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 6:46:47 GMT -6
Tony, let's say $15k. The past alternatives had been upwards of $250k and higher - more or less. This is appealing!
But then, this is scalable; pay as you go. A lot of folks have been waiting for something like this. As long as it doesn't die out mid-stream, this could be an idea that catches on (one would hope).
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 10, 2015 7:07:06 GMT -6
I own one of the Original apis he made back in the 90's and its a pretty sweet sounding console. Excited to see this.
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Post by tasteliketape on Oct 10, 2015 7:08:26 GMT -6
Yes this will be good. I hate to be that guy but its Wolff with 2 F's doh that damn spell check :; |
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Post by tasteliketape on Oct 10, 2015 7:21:39 GMT -6
Jeff already has most of the solutions, just not a complete Lego kit solution. He already has all you need given most people want to design the final ergonomic portions and frame themselves, and will do it on a fairly small channel count. I don't see what actually holds all that together, you probably still gotta build that. just edited my first post they are various configurations on the Fix Web site |
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 10, 2015 7:40:26 GMT -6
Tony, let's say $15k. The past alternatives had been upwards of $250k and higher - more or less. This is appealing! But then, this is scalable; pay as you go. A lot of folks have been waiting for something like this. As long as it doesn't die out mid-stream, this could be an idea that catches on (one would hope). their is no doubt that jeffs rig or this would be great, as far as mid stream drop off, i think once you have a 500 based chassis your gold, there are a zillion 15v 500 series pieces you could put in it! |
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 8:17:21 GMT -6
I hope this idea spreads and modular/expandable thinking becomes a "way of life". Waiting for more details on the I/O modules, though. No details from that link.
We're long overdue for this idea, i.e., putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together into a modular console, built and configured to taste!
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 10, 2015 8:21:02 GMT -6
I hope this idea spreads and modular/expandable thinking becomes a "way of life". Waiting for more details on the I/O modules, though. No details from that link. We're long overdue for this idea, i.e., putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together into a modular console, built and configured to taste! You should go to gdiy and check out Jeff's console thread, there's info here via a search as well, lots of good info |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 10, 2015 8:21:47 GMT -6
I hope this idea spreads and modular/expandable thinking becomes a "way of life". Waiting for more details on the I/O modules, though. No details from that link. We're long overdue for this idea, i.e., putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together into a modular console, built and configured to taste! Peter already did this with his Tonelux rack. He designed that right? Totally configurable, but I think it was too difficult for the lawyers and doctors to figure out how to assemble, so they purchased complete SSL, API, and RND solutions and the Tonelux consoles never took off. |
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 8:43:51 GMT -6
Jesse, I can find Tonelux branded modules, but no chassis'. Looks like it fizzled out. This idea is golden, though, IMO.
Tony, I read somewhere that Jeff gave up on the idea, and I believe his was a proprietary configuration. There needs to be an open framework. Since the 500 series is the game, that would have to be the platform. Hopefully Jeff will reconsider...
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 8:47:36 GMT -6
Doctors and lawyers aren't the only players anymore. This should be up everyone's alley. Getting the sound you want in a console of your own choosing is creamy goodness!
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 9:00:14 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Oct 10, 2015 9:11:42 GMT -6
, I read somewhere that Jeff gave up on the idea, and I believe his was a proprietary configuration. . His modular parts are all available. He gave up on a small format few input sub mixer platform that's documented here. If you want to build a big multi/bucket console you can get plenty of parts from him to do it. I don't consider these things scalable. That seems like a fantasy. What are you gonna do, build a new frame every time you expand? Build your dream frame and have it sit mostly empty for large unsatisfying amounts of time? |
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 9:26:37 GMT -6
As I implied... waiting on more details, but from the site, it's scalable. 500 series is an open framework now. Building a frame is easy to plan for. Once you know how the sections will be proportioned, design the frame to be sectional and scalable as well. I build frames and cases anyway, so from my standpoint, it's not a problem. I may find a market if it catches on, though I'm not particularly interested in it.
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Post by ericn on Oct 10, 2015 10:22:44 GMT -6
As I implied... waiting on more details, but from the site, it's scalable. 500 series is an open framework now. Building a frame is easy to plan for. Once you know how the sections will be proportioned, design the frame to be sectional and scalable as well. I build frames and cases anyway, so from my standpoint, it's not a problem. I may find a market if it catches on, though I'm not particularly interested in it. The problem is 500 series standard lacks bussing for a console so somebody had to create and be open about a standard for bussing and solo ! I always said take Tonelux and build it on 500 series width. Say $700 a module for a basic rig and $2k for an 8 ch frame bucket Great till you realize that's $21k for 24 ch without master sect!ion |
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Post by ericn on Oct 10, 2015 10:26:03 GMT -6
He beat you to it, Jeff... The desire of people wanting this, to the cost reality of people actually buying this,... Is probably a vey wide chasm to cross? I did my own dumb math on the console jeff was working on, it felt like it was going to be in the $15k range as a DIY rig no matter what angle I turned the calculater, not positive on that though... the fact that Jeff supports this says a lot! It's a Paul Wolff design! He's from they golden age of API if I'm not mistaken? The Golden age was before. Paul , but Paul is the guy who put it all back together after it fell apart and is the guy behind what was probably the best summing system ever the 8200/7800/7600! |
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Post by b1 on Oct 10, 2015 10:41:27 GMT -6
As I implied... waiting on more details, but from the site, it's scalable. 500 series is an open framework now. Building a frame is easy to plan for. Once you know how the sections will be proportioned, design the frame to be sectional and scalable as well. I build frames and cases anyway, so from my standpoint, it's not a problem. I may find a market if it catches on, though I'm not particularly interested in it. The problem is 500 series standard lacks bussing for a console so somebody had to create and be open about a standard for bussing and solo ! I always said take Tonelux and build it on 500 series width. Say $700 a module for a basic rig and $2k for an 8 ch frame bucket Great till you realize that's $21k for 24 ch without master sect!ion That's why I'm wanting to know more about and I/O modules... how is all of this going to ultimately tie together. I think it's Radial that has a nice idea in their 500 Workhorse/6 Pack and it's not an impossible feat to bridge it all together. What I imagine is that developers like this only envision selling to a select few, instead of broadening their vision to the new reality of numerous project studios. The first guy to accept the new landscape will become a household name. But the guy who retains eyes for the commercial setups and deep pocket business models will stay in the status quo. Sure they'll make money, but they could go a lot further by looking at the new trend. That is, everyone is a producer with an eye on a quality setup. |
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