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Post by gravesnumber9 on Mar 4, 2021 17:19:27 GMT -6
Yeah, just did a critical listen of "She Said, She Said" to figure out what Ringo was doing on drums. What's the point? If there's such a thing as musical inflation, these guys were printing money.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2021 17:26:43 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2021 17:28:38 GMT -6
Ah, is that a criticism ?  . Personally, thought it a great track, fantastic drums and interesting premise:,write a song with one chord? To each their own ! |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Mar 4, 2021 17:53:31 GMT -6
I once got in a heated discussion with somebody that said the Beatles would have been better with a real drummer like John Bonham...
I had a good laugh until I realized he was serious.
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Post by notneeson on Mar 4, 2021 18:07:55 GMT -6
I once got in a heated discussion with somebody that said the Beatles would have been better with a real drummer like John Bonham... I had a good laugh until I realized he was serious. I go the other way with it. I might actually listen to Toto if they put Moe Tucker on drums.  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2021 18:18:43 GMT -6
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Post by Guitar on Mar 4, 2021 18:28:06 GMT -6
Oh man, I love that song. Ringo is a beast too. Not in the athletic flashy sense at all, but he plays to the music and has a sound.
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Post by EmRR on Mar 4, 2021 18:31:22 GMT -6
Sum of the whole is.......as they say.....now we're just putting young girls in videos ABOUT old drummers.......
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Mar 4, 2021 18:32:35 GMT -6
Ah, is that a criticism ? . Personally, thought it a great track, fantastic drums and interesting premise:,write a song with one chord? To each their own ! No, the opposite. It's so good that what's the point in trying to do anything? I was thinking "oh, I know the type of drum part I'm thinking about... I'll just cue up She Said." |
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Post by EmRR on Mar 4, 2021 18:32:45 GMT -6
While we're here, I always thought I'd love to hear Ian Paice in the Experience versus Mitch. What a beast on those Purple mkI records, and 'In Rock'.
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Post by superwack on Mar 4, 2021 18:33:56 GMT -6
Yeah, just did a critical listen of "She Said, She Said" to figure out what Ringo was doing on drums. What's the point? If there's such a thing as musical inflation, these guys were printing money. Ringo is so awesome on this track (and many, many, many others) as a drummer myself I'd easily put him in my top 3 |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2021 18:43:09 GMT -6
Ah, is that a criticism ? . Personally, thought it a great track, fantastic drums and interesting premise:,write a song with one chord? To each their own ! No, the opposite. It's so good that what's the point in trying to do anything? I was thinking "oh, I know the type of drum part I'm thinking about... I'll just cue up She Said." Ya, exactly, Ringo in his own drumming way was just as creative as the other Beatles. |
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Post by mhbunch on Mar 4, 2021 19:24:11 GMT -6
Ringo is so underrated .... those early recordings especially - holy smokes SO BURNING!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 20:46:55 GMT -6
I once got in a heated discussion with somebody that said the Beatles would have been better with a real drummer like John Bonham... I had a good laugh until I realized he was serious. Imagine if they had Ginger Baker. John Lennon vs Ginger Baker, twelve rounds, who would win? |
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Post by chessparov on Mar 4, 2021 21:20:10 GMT -6
Yoko.
Chris
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Post by gwlee7 on Mar 4, 2021 21:47:27 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2021 23:12:24 GMT -6
I always heard Rinho didn’t actually play all the stuff in the studio - that sometimes John and Pail did…don’t know if that’s true.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2021 23:31:50 GMT -6
Paul played some, don’t know about John ?
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Post by ab101 on Mar 4, 2021 23:53:52 GMT -6
Love this song. And Ringo plays a right handed kit though he is left handed. He plays enough to be interesting and stays out of the way when it is important. They are also drifting away from "pop" for lack of a better term. And reversed at the end beautifully!
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Post by ragan on Mar 5, 2021 0:16:59 GMT -6
The Ringo thing is one of those old debates where there's no convincing anyone of anything. Some people view musicianship as sport. Like as if every band would be better if it had Neil Peart on the skins and Yngwie Malmsteen on the guitar. I always think of it as 'stunt' playing. Like "dude you've got to hear this guy, he's f*cking SIIIIICKKK" and I listen and my mind goes, "Oh, stunt guitar, ok...I can respect that that took an awful, awful lot of practice to achieve. Also I don't ever want to put that music on and listen to it."
Ringo is awesome because of the songwriting space he occupies in that specific band. His playing (not to mention his tuning/aesthetic sensibilities) are perfect for The Beatles. And that's really the only criteria I personally care about. What's the resultant output of the given group of people playing off of and inspiring each other? Do I like it? In the case of The Beatles it's a big yes for me. The idea of 'swapping' anyone out for anyone else is nonsensical because then you don't have The Beatles, you have...something else. Maybe it would be cool too but it would be a whole different thing.
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Post by lpedrum on Mar 5, 2021 0:36:45 GMT -6
I always heard Rinho didn’t actually play all the stuff in the studio - that sometimes John and Pail did…don’t know if that’s true. He played the overwhelming majority of it. Paul has steady time and can drum. But Ringo's style and personality always shines through. I've always said that the opening fill on She Said is the best opening drum fill in rock and roll. |
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Post by ragan on Mar 5, 2021 0:40:35 GMT -6
Yeah the 'Ringo didn't play on some stuff' has blossomed into legend. Paul played on a few things, and you can hear it when he does, it doesn't really sound like Ringo.
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 5, 2021 1:11:59 GMT -6
IMO The Beatles are still underrated.
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Post by Quint on Mar 5, 2021 1:17:56 GMT -6
The Ringo thing is one of those old debates where there's no convincing anyone of anything. Some people view musicianship as sport. Like as if every band would be better if it had Neil Peart on the skins and Yngwie Malmsteen on the guitar. I always think of it as 'stunt' playing. Like "dude you've got to hear this guy, he's f*cking SIIIIICKKK" and I listen and my mind goes, "Oh, stunt guitar, ok...I can respect that that took an awful, awful lot of practice to achieve. Also I don't ever want to put that music on and listen to it." Ringo is awesome because of the songwriting space he occupies in that specific band. His playing (not to mention his tuning/aesthetic sensibilities) are perfect for The Beatles. And that's really the only criteria I personally care about. What's the resultant output of the given group of people playing off of and inspiring each other? Do I like it? In the case of The Beatles it's a big yes for me. The idea of 'swapping' anyone out for anyone else is nonsensical because then you don't have The Beatles, you have...something else. Maybe it would be cool too but it would be a whole different thing. Fuckin A right. |
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Post by pouletdegrains on Mar 5, 2021 1:47:02 GMT -6
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